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Title: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 13 February 2008, 13:09
Reading in the forums it seems that vag com is the software you need to basically check all apspects of the car.

What's the difference between the official vag com and then the £4.99 ones on ebay :

http://search.ebay.co.uk/VAG-COM_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfrtsZ0QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQlredZVAGQ20COM

Thanks,

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 13 February 2008, 13:18
You will have to double check or wait for someone to confirm, but I think you can do more with the office ones and the ebay ones are just limited versions.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Ridg on 13 February 2008, 13:20
the official lead contains the licence for vag com, the cheap ones don't so you have to find away around the licence or use the "free" functions
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 13 February 2008, 13:23
the official lead contains the licence for vag com, the cheap ones don't so you have to find away around the licence or use the "free" functions

I don't mind paying for anything if i use it - just don't want to pay more than i need to. I'll look into the official licence cost of vag com - Might be worth getting it - unless others disagree.

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 13 February 2008, 13:25
Depends what you want to use it for. Im pretty sure you can view fault codes and clear them with the free function, which is all I would ever use it for.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Pennith on 13 February 2008, 14:36
Hello,

When I asked my local VW garage about VAG com they said not to touch it as it can blow airbags and cause all sorts of problems, and if they know you have used VAG com they wont use their official VW diagnostics software on your car.

They Full of S**T ?
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 13 February 2008, 14:40
Full of sh!t. They dont want you to get it so they can charge you £40 to do it instead. As for saying you can blow airbags, thats like saying "dont buy a car because you could crash it and die".

There is also no way of telling if you as an individual have used it either, complete and utter bollock$. They might be able to see if VAGCOM has been used on the car, but for all they know that was used when you have a problem or during a service or at any other garage.

What a bunch of tossers some dealers are. Gerrrr

Rant over.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 13 February 2008, 14:50
i think VAG COM from a supplier here is at least £200 which a rip-off considering the current exchange rate  :angry:

there was a group buy for VAG COM on another forum a few months back and its highly unlikely it will ever be run again as over 100 people were involved  :shocked:

if you can stretch to the official stuff then get it because you'll soon make your money back in performing diagnositics and you then also offer it to other people for a few beer tokens  :wink:

i've scanned a few mates cars now and saved them a fortune!!  Did one the other week which turned out to be the brake light switch; £7 later and its sorted :afro:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 13 February 2008, 14:59
i think VAG COM from a supplier here is at least £200 which a rip-off considering the current exchange rate  :angry:

there was a group buy for VAG COM on another forum a few months back and its highly unlikely it will ever be run again as over 100 people were involved  :shocked:

if you can stretch to the official stuff then get it because you'll soon make your money back in performing diagnositics and you then also offer it to other people for a few beer tokens  :wink:

i've scanned a few mates cars now and saved them a fortune!!  Did one the other week which turned out to be the brake light switch; £7 later and its sorted :afro:

This is what i'm thinking as it seems there is no one near me with it.

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: rheady on 14 February 2008, 13:29
When i had my car diagnosed at VW b@@@@@ds charged me £70.. :sick:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 14 February 2008, 15:42
When i had my car diagnosed at VW b@@@@@ds charged me £70.. :sick:

That is a disgrace !
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: richw911 on 14 February 2008, 18:20
If you just want to read (and clear)  fault codes to help diagnose faults you can pick up a fault code reader for about £40  :smiley:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: rheady on 15 February 2008, 12:46
Yes you live and learn. Wont take it there again for VAG-COM.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 February 2008, 12:54
Yes you live and learn. Wont take it there again for VAG-COM.

didn't happen to be Capitol in Merthyr was it mate??
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: rheady on 15 February 2008, 12:59
Yes, shame really because the staff seem OK. I did get a 10% discount card from someone I know but it still works out at over £60. Will be looking to invest in some software myself when I get some spare cash.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 15 February 2008, 13:00
Well put it this way, my local garage wanted £40 for a dignostics of the car when my engine manegment light came on. Turned out to be my o2 sensors, if I did the work with them, they wouldnt charge me for the diagnostics. So I got that done for free.

Rip off city is VW.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 February 2008, 13:28
Yes, shame really because the staff seem OK. I did get a 10% discount card from someone I know but it still works out at over £60. Will be looking to invest in some software myself when I get some spare cash.

parts guys are pretty good; service staff seem a tad clueless; if you need any further diagnostics give me a shout as i live just round the corner from Capitol and got the full VAG COM :afro:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 15 February 2008, 13:29
Id careful of Rhyso, i've heard his a bit of a cowboy on the old VAGCOM ;) :D
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 15 February 2008, 13:30
I've just order a cable from ebay to use with 401

I think i'll get the full vag com though shortly. Is there a way to do a bulk purchase with any one to get it cheaper?

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: AlanD on 15 February 2008, 13:38
There was a bulk buy not that long ago, probs about 10 months ago now but that was with over 100 people, so i doubt it to tbh
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 15 February 2008, 13:49
10 months is some time ago - time for another one maybe ;)

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 15 February 2008, 14:05
Id careful of Rhyso, i've heard his a bit of a cowboy on the old VAGCOM ;) :D

scammed scanned and your done  :laugh:

10 months is some time ago - time for another one maybe ;)

CS

yeah i'll let you contact the guy who ran it then; though i can save you the bother as i know what his reply will be   :laugh: :laugh:

caused him no end of a headache with collecting payments from over 100 people for different amounts, organising customs bills etc etc
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 15 February 2008, 14:08
I can imagine - i was living in dream land for the suggestion :P

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: rheady on 15 February 2008, 23:45
Rhyso thanks for the offer thats much appreciated.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: MaXXeH on 16 February 2008, 11:50
i got a £5 cable and got a cracked version so i can use everything works fine.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: THiNK on 16 February 2008, 12:27
i got a £5 cable and got a cracked version so i can use everything works fine.

Thats not a rote i wish to take. I'll purchase the full version.

CS
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Marco Rossi on 17 February 2008, 20:07
Is it possible to check stuff like your bhp and torque etc with the full vagcom??
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 17 February 2008, 20:19
Is it possible to check stuff like your bhp and torque etc with the full vagcom??

in a way yes you can; you can monitor boost, air flow etc etc so it gives you an idea of whats happening; you can also graph the results  :smiley:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Marco Rossi on 17 February 2008, 20:23
ah i get ya, but for specific bhp figures its rolling road time?
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 17 February 2008, 20:30
ah i get ya, but for specific bhp figures its rolling road time?

yeah, you can work out your BHP through VAG COM but it requires doing maths and i'm crap at that lol

RR is best for hard BHP and torque figures  :smiley:
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Marco Rossi on 17 February 2008, 20:34
beltin, i got an A in maths at school so i should be ok  :grin:

cheers for that pal.
Title: Re: vag com ? Am I missing something?
Post by: Rhyso on 17 February 2008, 20:45
beltin, i got an A in maths at school so i should be ok  :grin:

cheers for that pal.

brainy bastard  :laugh: :laugh:

no probs mate