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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: SteveS on 12 February 2008, 16:02
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anyone see it on monday.
had the golf gti on it as best buy for 2nd hand car. or whatever they call it. they rated it highly too.
they also said the dsg is the same as the Bugatti Veryron... interesting..
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I saw that - very good, especially for people about to sell their GTI!
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I saw it too - Our beloved Mk5 was highly praised and called the best GTI since the Mk1....... [RR makes quick getaway before the Mk2/3/4 boys come steaming in!]
It looked good on the track too. :cool:
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Entered the comp to win the one they were giving away. I won't win but I can dream!
Nick
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is it on youtube already?
I fancy a look, too.
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Entered the comp to win the one they were giving away. I won't win but I can dream!
Nick
....Someone has to win and if you don't enter the comp you most certainly won't stand a chance!
I wish you luck! :smiley:
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is it on youtube already?
I fancy a look, too.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cw8gxO1X9g0
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I saw it too - Our beloved Mk5 was highly praised and called the best GTI since the Mk1.......
Thanks for that Robin! :grin:
Dinx :kiss:
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Still at least 60% of the program was tosh ...
e.g. last week, ok we'll put the new clio on the track and compare it against ..... a go kart !
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Still at least 60% of the program was tosh ...
e.g. last week, ok we'll put the new clio on the track and compare it against ..... a go kart !
Then they put that vicky fella in the driving seat. My granny can drive faster than her. :grin:
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Van reviews as well :sick:
At least it was the VW one that won the shootout :cool:
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I personally find Fifth Gear to be a waste. Its boring and unoriginal.
Topgear however.... Is the king
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Funnily enough, Fifth Gear is nearly all the old production team from the old Top Gear, pre-launch, pre clarkson, hammond, may as a threesome, ooh err.
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Jeremy Clarkson...
He makes Topgear. All 3 of them do. But I really enjoy him the most.
Mike
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Jeremy Clarkson...
He makes Topgear. All 3 of them do. But I really enjoy him the most.
Mike
....JC is the reason I test drove and ordered my Mk5 GTI:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/JC_Power.jpg)
And then after 40 days he said:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/JesusSaysModify.jpg)
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same here, had old shape S3 and fancied a change, at the time new s3 wasn't out and would have been a bit pricey, hadn't even thought about a golf gti till I saw the road test and went and tried 1.
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Top Gear is the best Car programme on TV...and the reviews do influence people when it comes to buying a car. Equally he does write for The Times and has a very good section on their website. Always worthy reading whilst Top Gear is not on TV. If Clarkson likes a car, then it probably is good.
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I have to say i disagree. Top gear although is the best for entertainment, I would have to say 5th gear provide a more detailed breakdown of cars and their competitors. As well as putting them through their paces using 2 top class drivers, which James May, hamster and Clarkson definately are not.
I just find the Top Gear crew a little more concerned with making the show funny, where as 5th gear tell you a little more about issues to do with motoring.
Have to say I still watch TG and find it very funny!! but the TG test track is hardly challenging and capable of showing which car is a best performer when many are too close to call. This is where the expert advice from plato and tiff can often be the decider on a much moe challenging track :cool:
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Top gear is great TV and very entertaining. Although I think it had become a bit too scripted> Fifth gear is less entertainment and more review based. Oh, and vicki butler-henderson still does it for me. :smiley:
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Although I find Top Gear entertaining, it has become a car show for people who are not interested in cars, in the same way that DIY programs appeal to people who don't like DIY!
It can be funny, and sometimes informative , but when they race a harrier jumpjet agaisnt a Nissan Micra, does anyone really care?
JC also is completely illogical in his reviews and tends to go for the sensationalist approach. He's well known for his loathing of the 1 series hatch but loves the new 1 series coupe. It's the same car!!
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Have to say I still watch TG and find it very funny!! but the TG test track is hardly challenging and capable of showing which car is a best performer when many are too close to call. This is where the expert advice from plato and tiff can often be the decider on a much moe challenging track :cool:
Have to disagree with you about the track. Those corners were designed by Lotus and are very specific to what sort of handling traits they show up. And seeing as Lotus are pretty much king at making cars go round corners, I'll take their word for it. And as for drivers *cough* Stig *cough*. If you ever doubt his skill just what the Britcar episode.
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TG for fun and frolics in motors, 5g for more factual stuff and VBH making THOSE noises when driving fast cars!
Nick
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....So, VBH makes you feel horny, Horney? :grin:
She's a big girl but she always seems to have a smile and a happy disposition and that's always attractive.
(http://www.ph-digitalphotography-motorsports.com/images/button/Jenson-Button_08.jpg)
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and she has a MKII GTI as her weekend toy, what a woman!
Nick
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Have to say I still watch TG and find it very funny!! but the TG test track is hardly challenging and capable of showing which car is a best performer when many are too close to call. This is where the expert advice from plato and tiff can often be the decider on a much moe challenging track :cool:
Have to disagree with you about the track. Those corners were designed by Lotus and are very specific to what sort of handling traits they show up. And seeing as Lotus are pretty much king at making cars go round corners, I'll take their word for it. And as for drivers *cough* Stig *cough*. If you ever doubt his skill just what the Britcar episode.
The stig is great driver but we have never seen him come up against anyone else... so who are we to say he is the best. I dont know much about race tracks (apart from knowing ever F1 circuit off the top of my head) but the TG is pretty crap as tracks go. Its simply flat with no inclines. A 1min track is hardly capable of testing all the traits of a car.
As for being designed by Lotus, it may well be. But I doubt its the only test track used by them, in fact i would be suprised if they still use it at all.. seeing as its actually a dissused runway :nerd:
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Have to say I still watch TG and find it very funny!! but the TG test track is hardly challenging and capable of showing which car is a best performer when many are too close to call. This is where the expert advice from plato and tiff can often be the decider on a much moe challenging track :cool:
Have to disagree with you about the track. Those corners were designed by Lotus and are very specific to what sort of handling traits they show up. And seeing as Lotus are pretty much king at making cars go round corners, I'll take their word for it. And as for drivers *cough* Stig *cough*. If you ever doubt his skill just what the Britcar episode.
The stig is great driver but we have never seen him come up against anyone else... so who are we to say he is the best. I dont know much about race tracks (apart from knowing ever F1 circuit off the top of my head) but the TG is pretty crap as tracks go. Its simply flat with no inclines. A 1min track is hardly capable of testing all the traits of a car.
As for being designed by Lotus, it may well be. But I doubt its the only test track used by them, in fact i would be suprised if they still use it at all.. seeing as its actually a dissused runway :nerd:
Lotus don't use it at all. It was DESIGNED by lotus. It is just a flat empty runway and Lotus came in and marked up the track for them.
As for 1 minute track not showing up a cars traits that's total bollox. That's plenty of scope for testing under/oversteer, acceleration, braking, stability etc etc. Just because car makers like to use the ring doesn't mean you need a million mile track to prove if a car is any good or not.
Nick
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Have to say I still watch TG and find it very funny!! but the TG test track is hardly challenging and capable of showing which car is a best performer when many are too close to call. This is where the expert advice from plato and tiff can often be the decider on a much moe challenging track :cool:
Have to disagree with you about the track. Those corners were designed by Lotus and are very specific to what sort of handling traits they show up. And seeing as Lotus are pretty much king at making cars go round corners, I'll take their word for it. And as for drivers *cough* Stig *cough*. If you ever doubt his skill just what the Britcar episode.
The stig is great driver but we have never seen him come up against anyone else... so who are we to say he is the best. I dont know much about race tracks (apart from knowing ever F1 circuit off the top of my head) but the TG is pretty crap as tracks go. Its simply flat with no inclines. A 1min track is hardly capable of testing all the traits of a car.
As for being designed by Lotus, it may well be. But I doubt its the only test track used by them, in fact i would be suprised if they still use it at all.. seeing as its actually a dissused runway :nerd:
Lotus don't use it at all. It was DESIGNED by lotus. It is just a flat empty runway and Lotus came in and marked up the track for them.
As for 1 minute track not showing up a cars traits that's total bollox. That's plenty of scope for testing under/oversteer, acceleration, braking, stability etc etc. Just because car makers like to use the ring doesn't mean you need a million mile track to prove if a car is any good or not.
Nick
Dude it doesnt even have any hills!!! Getting back to the point... it is not a better test track than the 5th gear one... its that simple.
Painting a few lines on an empty runway means exactly that!! Your limited by the runway!! And i also wonder how much time was allocated to designing a test track for a suzuki liana to go round?? A purposly designed track is a different kettle of fish altogether. Get a grip dude :rolleyes:
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Fella I don't want to argue with you but Lotus's own test track is pretty flat.
They went to the TG airfield and surveyed it and then planned a circuit with testing corners. Each one designed to test different aspects of the cars handling. 5G use better tracks but they use different ones each week. Sometimes cadwell, sometimes Combe, sometimes bruntingthorpe etc etc. Great for testing a car in it's own right but TG use their track to benchmark all cars against each other on a reasonable level playing field. The only variables are the weather as they use the same circuit and the same driver each time.
Hills a rwace circuit do not make! I've done a couple of track days on air fields and they're ust as hard and challanging as popping up over avon rise and getting a bit sideways under breaking into Quarry at Combe.
Nick
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I want Vicky on TG !
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Hills a rwace circuit do not make! I've done a couple of track days on air fields and they're ust as hard and challanging as popping up over avon rise and getting a bit sideways under breaking into Quarry at Combe.
Nick
....I'd say that 'flat' circuits are harder simply because it's trickier to find braking points before bends. There's usually more 'landmarks' on a hillier circuit. :cool:
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Driver skill aside... A hill will give a much better appreciation of a cars abilities be it accelerating... up hill, or braking downhill. Which would simulate everyday driving in better comparison to going round a flat track.
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Top Gear is shit.
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Top Gear is shit.
Agreed!!! Funny yes... but sh1t too :grin:
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Entered the comp to win the one they were giving away. I won't win but I can dream!
Nick
.............same here,fingers crossed etc.