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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 13:31

Title: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 13:31
ABT has finally reconstructed their webpage, and now they offer three tuning packages for E30:

265hp/350Nm = 1369Euro
310hp/420Nm + bigger brakes = 3808Euro
330hp/???Nm + new turbo (900Euro extra if car has more than 15000 on the clock) + bigger brakes = 7878Euro

prices are, of course :shocked:


what do you think of this power curve?
http://www.abt-sportsline.de/uploads/tx_comabt/1K0_120_310_BYD_Schalter.pdf

Oh, and ABT takes over manufacturers warranty, max 100.000km or 2 years since the day of new car's delivery (so in my case one year is almost gone already).
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: SteveS on 06 February 2008, 13:32
265??
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 13:35
265??

yep, they adjust the ECU to 265hp. Why?
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 13:38
Look at those prices!  :shocked:
Side skirts: 464 + 142 for montage + 322 for painting! MAMMA MIA!  :shocked:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 13:43
And the 310hp package is not 3808, but 3808+357 for montage. Of this sum 2300 are the 345mm brakes with stalflex brake lines.  :shocked:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: john_o on 06 February 2008, 13:48
interesting , looks like they consider 265 PS for std brakes.

Def a diff outlook to all previous tuning on the ED30!
From what I have read , 330 is OK on std turbocharger as its a K03 as long as you improve intercooler.

Brakes is a weak point tho :drool:

Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Russ.C on 06 February 2008, 15:16
interesting , looks like they consider 265 PS for std brakes.

Def a diff outlook to all previous tuning on the ED30!
From what I have read , 330 is OK on std turbocharger as its a K03 as long as you improve intercooler.

Brakes is a weak point tho :drool:



I've read quite a few posts with people not happy with the brakes on the Edition 30, some of you must really hammer your motors/brakes because I've never had any problems with them! And I consider myself to be quite hard on my car! Are you all referring to their use on a track?
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: joesgti on 06 February 2008, 15:24
are the brakes on the ed30 the same as std gti? they are not too good as i was racing with my dad in his carrera 4s and nearly went into the back of him....... he stopped ALOT quicker    :sick::evil:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Russ.C on 06 February 2008, 15:57
I think they are the same yeah. Never raced my old man! Mind you he has a Landrover Defender so it wouldn't be much fun! :smiley:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: R32UK on 06 February 2008, 17:43
I know the R32 brakes are bigger and look quite mean behind the wheels.... but even I think they are just about adequate for the R32.

Might be useful on a ED30 tho :huh:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: john_o on 06 February 2008, 17:46
Are you all referring to their use on a track?

Nope road use for me.
For me its not just absolute stopping power its also the 'feel', long pedal travel etc
std brakes are ok but have very little feel on the limit, never had much confidence in them tbh.
I find it very hard to be able to do a controlled fast decel without stepping over the line and triggering ABS.
Prev car I could brake very hard and 'feel' where the limit was.

plus of course the Golf is often travelling way faster than you thought  :evil: esp if you have a bluefin eh  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: RedRobin on 06 February 2008, 18:17
Although the GTI's brakes are good, the pedal response feel isn't as good as aftermarket big brake kits such as by AP Racing. The better 'feel' and awesome but smooth stopping power is exceptional and gives bags of confidence.

Abt have always been very, very expensive!
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: SteveS on 06 February 2008, 18:27
well i dont see any point in upping frm e30 to 265! and the next one up is way too much, i feel disapointed
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 06 February 2008, 19:24
I just don't understand how ABT survives with those outlandish prices.  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: k4ith on 06 February 2008, 20:09
thats what i am aiming to upgrade to.
The R32 & MK2 Cupra both get the 345mm front set up, but the Ed30 shares the gti set up.
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 07 February 2008, 12:21
interesting , looks like they consider 265 PS for std brakes.

Def a diff outlook to all previous tuning on the ED30!
From what I have read , 330 is OK on std turbocharger as its a K03 as long as you improve intercooler.

Brakes is a weak point tho :drool:



ED30 has K04 as standard, regular GTi has K03S
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: john_o on 07 February 2008, 13:04
ED30 has K04 as standard, regular GTi has K03S

cheers for the correction, knew ED30 was S3 one  , wondered if id picked the wrong one lol
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: wolfbane1967 on 07 February 2008, 17:04
I just don't understand how ABT survives with those outlandish prices.  :lipsrsealed:

You get what you pay for :wink: Realy long tests on the road any many houers in testing costs money.And they give garantee for the things,that goes for MTM as well ,and offcourse Oettinger
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: Peskarik on 07 February 2008, 18:50
I just don't understand how ABT survives with those outlandish prices.  :lipsrsealed:

You get what you pay for :wink: Realy long tests on the road any many houers in testing costs money.And they give garantee for the things,that goes for MTM as well ,and offcourse Oettinger

well, Ottinger: 330/435 + intercooler + exhaust + intake = 3500Euro
300/400: 1200 Euro, which is still cheaper than 310/420 from ABT
Title: Re: ABT Tuning
Post by: wolfbane1967 on 07 February 2008, 19:25
I just don't understand how ABT survives with those outlandish prices.  :lipsrsealed:

You get what you pay for :wink: Realy long tests on the road any many houers in testing costs money.And they give garantee for the things,that goes for MTM as well ,and offcourse Oettinger

well, Ottinger: 330/435 + intercooler + exhaust + intake = 3500Euro
300/400: 1200 Euro, which is still cheaper than 310/420 from ABT


True, i like my tuner :smiley: