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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: hufcforpromotion on 22 January 2008, 19:31
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Hi All!
After weeks of phone calls e.t.c. I decided on Superchips Bluefin for my edition 30! I have been running the program since friday and yesterday I put the car back to stock as I found the power delivery of the superchips not to my taste! The power doesn't really come in until 4,000 revs and it comes in with one big woosh! I must admit superchips where very good about everything and I have got my money back under the 7 days return and they even sent a courier to collect the BlueFin! Can any of you running the APR remap on your edition 30 let me know how you find the power delivery? Do you think the extra power makes the car a better car or just faster?
Cheers John
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The power delivery is spot on pal. Very similar to standard ED30 only more so. There is more low down punch, which is where the standard ED30 was a bit lacking compared with my old remapped regular GTi, and plenty of top end pull, pulling cleanly and strongly all the way to the redline, which is where the mapped regular GTi was lacking a bit.
If you have a look on Awesomes website under the rolling road section, look for the VAG H20 day, theres my car with power graphs and a video, this should give you an idea of the delivery pal. The lower graph is power at the wheels, top graph flywheel as you they are nice smooth graphs.
Hope this helps
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Thanks for posting your experience...I'm looking to remap my ED30 come the Spring and was thinking of the Bluefin.
I think I'll try the 6 hour free trial that Awesome GTI offer with the APR remap first, as I'd have nothing to lose by trying this.
Like you I'd much prefer to see some noticebale gains lower down in the rev range, and a nice even spread of power and torque
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Does anyone have various RR charts of the maps? Would be handy to see what effect each has.
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Does anyone have various RR charts of the maps? Would be handy to see what effect each has.
I agree!!
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Like i said have a look at Awesomes website and the graphs for my car on a rolling road day are on there
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My APR map feels very progressive. Here's a graph of the map
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Awesomedyno.jpg)
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Strange the superchips graph would show a different story of one big wnoosh at 4k - there is a lump of torque at 3k :undecided: :undecided: :undecided:
Oh well - i'll least have an opinion by this time next week! :evil:
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I don't get a big whoosh at 4k in mine :undecided: Its when you hit 3k and the turbo kicks in and you get a big surge of power all the way through the rev range. very smooth, I would say the delivery is very similar to stock but just with more power. interesting experience as i was under the impression it was a generic map :huh:
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I don't get a big whoosh at 4k in mine :undecided: Its when you hit 3k and the turbo kicks in and you get a big surge of power all the way through the rev range. very smooth, I would say the delivery is very similar to stock but just with more power. interesting experience as i was under the impression it was a generic map :huh:
Yes turbo spools up at about 3000 revs but starts to kick in at about 4000 revs! I can honestly say i't spoils the drive of the car! This power late on in the revs would be good for on a track but for country roads!?
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I don't get a big whoosh at 4k in mine :undecided: Its when you hit 3k and the turbo kicks in and you get a big surge of power all the way through the rev range. very smooth, I would say the delivery is very similar to stock but just with more power. interesting experience as i was under the impression it was a generic map :huh:
Yes turbo spools up at about 3000 revs but starts to kick in at about 4000 revs! I can honestly say i't spoils the drive of the car! This power late on in the revs would be good for on a track but for country roads!?
Everyone to their own I suppose, let us know how you rate the APR as a comparison, be interesting to hear the differences from someone whos tried both in a short space of time. :smiley:
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....Interesting comparisons - On my Stage1 GTI (with various hardware mods) my turbo kicks in at about 2,000 revs, which is considerably lower than you guys are reporting. Power doesn't drop off dramatically further up the rev range either.
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Personnaly i like the kinda on off type of thing from big boost cars - When i had my Evo MR340 it was handy at the end of the month to drive in the non boost zone - it meant i could get more than 100 miles to a tank! :shocked:
Bluefin down loading...........
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Absolutely no problem in power delivery IMO - exactly as you'd expect for a high boost turbo 2L - take it too far and you'd get a EVO FQ400 but in the Golf Fine - well fine! :evil:
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....Interesting comparisons - On my Stage1 GTI (with various hardware mods) my turbo kicks in at about 2,000 revs, which is considerably lower than you guys are reporting. Power doesn't drop off dramatically further up the rev range either.
Red, your car has a different turbo which spools up earlier in the rev range than the ED30, but also tails off earlier in both standard and remapped versions. :nerd:
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Getting the APR trial on Saturday morning and I will report back! I also have GIAC to try out after that! The APR 6 hour trial should last me a good few weeks! There was nothing wrong with the Superchips Remap just was not what I was looking for!
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GIAC trial how do you get that??
this is what i need a test car to decide for me, good luck, am hopping you opt for the GIAC so i can blag a passenger run at the UKmivs r/r day @ star.so i know what am getting for my dosh.
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GIAC trial how do you get that??
this is what i need a test car to decide for me, good luck, am hopping you opt for the GIAC so i can blag a passenger run at the UKmivs r/r day @ star.so i know what am getting for my dosh.
No Problem buddy but I will probably still have the APR trial running still then! There is a red edition 30 in Leuchars which is running the GIAC map! I wonder if he is a member on here!?
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Getting the APR trial on Saturday morning and I will report back! I also have GIAC to try out after that! The APR 6 hour trial should last me a good few weeks! There was nothing wrong with the Superchips Remap just was not what I was looking for!
Is that 6 hour trial measured in driving time then ?
Alway assumed it was by the watch :undecided: :laugh:
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Getting the APR trial on Saturday morning and I will report back! I also have GIAC to try out after that! The APR 6 hour trial should last me a good few weeks! There was nothing wrong with the Superchips Remap just was not what I was looking for!
Is that 6 hour trial measured in driving time then ?
Alway assumed it was by the watch :undecided: :laugh:
Driving Time!
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Definitely driving time! I had one on my old R32. A mate also had one at the same time and it knackered his ECU :undecided:
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Driving time is good news :grin:
How does it switch back to stock ?......and does it leave any trace of having a remap ?
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....Interesting comparisons - On my Stage1 GTI (with various hardware mods) my turbo kicks in at about 2,000 revs, which is considerably lower than you guys are reporting. Power doesn't drop off dramatically further up the rev range either.
Red, your car has a different turbo which spools up earlier in the rev range than the ED30, but also tails off earlier in both standard and remapped versions. :nerd:
....Ah yes, I was forgetting (K03 instead of K04 IIRC). As I have earned 2 x 3 pts both for exactly 93 mph (on dual carriageway A-roads) and 2 x let-offs by unmarked cars both for in the 90's, I'm glad I don't have any more power at higher revs! My car is fast enough for the German autobahns unrestricted sections though. I need to take it easy.
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....Interesting comparisons - On my Stage1 GTI (with various hardware mods) my turbo kicks in at about 2,000 revs, which is considerably lower than you guys are reporting. Power doesn't drop off dramatically further up the rev range either.
Red, your car has a different turbo which spools up earlier in the rev range than the ED30, but also tails off earlier in both standard and remapped versions. :nerd:
....Ah yes, I was forgetting (K03 instead of K04 IIRC). As I have earned 2 x 3 pts both for exactly 93 mph (on dual carriageway A-roads) and 2 x let-offs by unmarked cars both for in the 90's, I'm glad I don't have any more power at higher revs! My car is fast enough for the German autobahns unrestricted sections though. I need to take it easy.
Ouch!
I'd rather get fined like that than for what mine was for. 3 points for driving at 41 in a 30, just 50 yards after it had gone from the national speed limit!! :angry:
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....Definitely "Ouch!" on the first two, being points. But "Phew!!" on the second two, being let-offs with warnings.
I actually stick rigidly to the 20, 30, 40 limits and have been trained to arrive at the actual sign at the legal speed and not to exceed it until my shoulders are level with the GLF sign.
GLF? - Go Like f**k!! The NSL 70's are the ones I have trouble with when the road/traffic conditions are clear. Just like a good horse, a good car needs to be given free rein occasionally.