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Title: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 08 January 2008, 15:07
Hey Y’all

I got more starting troubles.  :sad:

Here’s original thread.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=69598.0

Like the post says after the garage did whatever they did to the throttle body, if indeed they did do anything to the throttle body. I had the oil, filters and plugs changed. 4 days later and here we are again, difficult starting from cold. Also this morning I had 2 warning lights illuminated. One being the ESP light on the dash (the ESP was on at this time) and the exhaust light which I’m lead to believe is a general error light. Is it something to do with the MAF sensor not working correctly.  :huh: :huh:

I presume I need a lead to a laptop to read these codes. Where might the best place to get said lead?

Cheers
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: AlanD on 08 January 2008, 15:25
I belive the best place to get them from is the offical website (http://www.ross-tech.com/index.html) as the ones on ebay can be a bit dodgey. You will also need VAGCOM. I think the free version allows you to read and reset error codes, not too sure. Someone please confirm

Your best place to start is getting these error codes and then taking it from there. Sounds like your having a bit of a mare with your car mate :(
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 08 January 2008, 15:42
Cheers for the link mate. Looks like ill be needing one. Just hope i havent bought a knacker as cant really afford to change. Looks like the ESP light has now gone out and is back to normal but the other still remains. 

:sad: :sad:

Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: AlanD on 08 January 2008, 15:46
I dont have ESP on mine so I might well be talking out my arse here, but I thought that the light is either always on or off (fooking obviously) but it either means the ESP is on or off and not actually a problem.
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Ashmond on 08 January 2008, 15:59
I have no idea, but try ringing 0208 681 0208 and ask for Reuben, he may have an answer for you!
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 08 January 2008, 16:28
You are partly correct.

When the ESP is on the light on the dash is off

When it is active the light flashes

When it is off the light is on

This morning the light was on when the ESP was on. I tried pressing the button incase it had been accidently switched off but the light wouldnt go out.

@ashmond

Is that number for the ESP or the starting troubles?

Cheers Fellas
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Ashmond on 08 January 2008, 16:32
It was for the starting troubles but tbh Rueben is one of two people that I listen to now after being messed about for months by alot of people, he knows what he is talkin about!
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 08 January 2008, 16:36
Cheers Mate   :smiley:

Ill ring tomorrow 1pm ish. Should i quote your name when i ring?
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Ashmond on 08 January 2008, 16:37
yeah say Ash doing the 1.8t conversion
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 08 January 2008, 16:39
Cheers, Ill update tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 09 January 2008, 14:14
Update:

Phoned Rueben and we had a chat. he thinks its being underfueled on startup. probably sensors.

Gonna book it in somwhere to get it on the computer to see what fault codes come up and go from there.

We also discussed wheels, suspension and arb's. This guy really knows what hes talking about. I will be contacting him again in a couple of months to sort out some gear.  :cool:

Thanks again for the contact Ash

Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Ashmond on 09 January 2008, 15:37
No problem mate, as I said he is literally one of, if not the only person I actually trust when trying to find out about me car (retailer wise), there are alot of cowboys out there!

Glad I could help a fellow dubber out!

Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: rheady on 09 January 2008, 20:42
with regards to the ESP light staying on, I had that problem and it was found to be a speed sensor on the rear wheel being faulty.
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 09 January 2008, 20:58
Cheers for that mate. ill keep an eye on the light. As it happens its gone off again.

was it an expensive fix. this damned car is starting to cost!!
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: rheady on 10 January 2008, 16:05
Hav'nt got any local garages that had my engine code so had to go to VW. They charged me £70 to fit and part was £49. Was a lot easier and cheaper to fix my crap old cavalier.
Title: Re: More Starting Troubles
Post by: Chris 'N' Jen on 21 January 2008, 09:31
Update

More info on starting problems.

Its now booked in at the steelers tomorrow for diag. before i go, does anyone have any ideas on the following.

Now, if i turn the ignition on, wait for the dash lights to go out then try and start it starts a lot easier and without any thouching of the gas. (still spluttery though) Almost like an older diesel where you have to wait for the glow plug light.

Does anyone know why this might be?

thanks y'all.