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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: telboy on 06 January 2008, 20:35
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Hi all,
Still really enjoying my ED30, now on 6k miles its really starting to loosen up. I am hoping soon to have the honoury remap :cool: and was wondering on your opinions re ED30 performance once remapped.
0-60 5 secs????
0-100????
1/4 mile????
top speed????
I am looking specifically at the figures for the 307 bhp remap, any ideas anyone or comments on what you think the above might be???? :smug:
Many thanks all for any input you give :grin:
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
Appreciate the view re traction, however so many (Hurdy included) are regularily achieving sub 6 secs sprints, believe Hurdy did it in 5.66??? so surely with the extra muscle and a good launch it could achieve the 5 sec mark?
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I'm sure those sort of figures are possible, I've never timed mine. I will say I reckon its much quicker all round than my previous car a 2000 remapped S3, off the line(dry), mid range and top end. It would be interesting to get some figures though :evil:
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I've timed the car a few times since the remap, but only with someone holding the stopwatch next to me. The really unfortunate thing is that I haven't been able to do it on a bang flat piece of road, whilst starting off in the middle of the road. 5.35 seconds is the best I have managed so far (using GPS rather than the speedo as the passenger can see it and it is accurate). Traction is a big factor in the 0-60 equation as it only takes a mild break of traction to kill the sprint time :sick:. I reckon that on a flat straight piece of tarmac you would see a 5.1 to 5.2 second 0-60. At Santa Pod with a good launch you would probably get the magic 5 second 0-60, but that is more due to the extra traction you get off the line due to all that rubber already laid down on the tarmac at the starting blocks :evil:
TBH I havent tried a 0-100mph sprint, mainly because it is illegal on public roads :rolleyes: :wink: and add to that getting a clear run. At Santa pod last year I did a standing quarter in 14.32 seconds before the remap and the terminal speed was 98.27mph. This equates quite accurately (using accelleration curve calc) at 14.5 seconds for the 0-100mph sprint. My estimate for a remapped 0-100mph would be somewhere between 11.8 and 12 seconds. The standing quarter being despatched in around 13.5 to 13.7 seconds.
Top speed is realtively immaterial whether standard or remapped unless you have either an airfield in your backyard or live in Germany. Having said that the ultimate gearing of the ED30 (and GTI) means that it is physically impossible for you to do over 187mph unless you change either the redline point or the gearing ratio's. 300bhp in most cars with a decent coefficient of friction (ie below 0.33) and enough gearing and revs will give around 160 to 165mph which could read as high as 180mph on the Golf GTI speedo.
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
Appreciate the view re traction, however so many (Hurdy included) are regularily achieving sub 6 secs sprints, believe Hurdy did it in 5.66??? so surely with the extra muscle and a good launch it could achieve the 5 sec mark?
no way Jose
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
Appreciate the view re traction, however so many (Hurdy included) are regularily achieving sub 6 secs sprints, believe Hurdy did it in 5.66??? so surely with the extra muscle and a good launch it could achieve the 5 sec mark?
no way Jose
Which bit?
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I seriously doubt you would manage a 5 second 0-60 unless you have an LSD. I also seriously doubt a remapped S3 would be slower from 0-60 than a remapped Ed30.
I have been unable to properly use first gear for months now due to the roads being wet/greasy/sandy.
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I doubt you can get under 5,5sec.I got 330hp oettinger remap and its problem to get the power down in 1,2, and 3 gear.But its when your up in speed its realy fun,the car is amazingly fast :grin:.The best you can get for this money.Im very happy with the car runs very smooth :wink:
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
Appreciate the view re traction, however so many (Hurdy included) are regularily achieving sub 6 secs sprints, believe Hurdy did it in 5.66??? so surely with the extra muscle and a good launch it could achieve the 5 sec mark?
no way Jose
Which bit?
5 seconds one
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On the road it isn't realistic to hope for 5 seconds even if you have 330bhp like wolfbane. On a drag strip in the right conditions and with launch control activated in the DSG, I reckon it will be close. It is just a real pity that Santa Pod do not do 0-60 times. They do just about everything else - even reaction times. :sad:
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Tractions the biggest problem pal, if its not bone dry you can forget it. Top speed? on a private road I've seen 155mph with no problem.
I second that! don't get too hung up on the 0-60 time, trust me, its when you get it rolling that it gets interesting, I find third gear particularly addictive, really puts you in the back of your seat! :evil:
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I seriously doubt you would manage a 5 second 0-60 unless you have an LSD. I also seriously doubt a remapped S3 would be slower from 0-60 than a remapped Ed30.
I have been unable to properly use first gear for months now due to the roads being wet/greasy/sandy.
The S3 I'm talking about is the older shape 1.8T, and having owned both cars I can confirm in my opinion the remapped ED30 is quicker all round than my old remapped S3, only in the dry of course.
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300bhp upwards on a front wheel drive car is pointless for 0-60 it wouldnt be any faster than the same car with 250bhp due to the 300bhp car putting the power down.
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I seriously doubt you would manage a 5 second 0-60 unless you have an LSD. I also seriously doubt a remapped S3 would be slower from 0-60 than a remapped Ed30.
I have been unable to properly use first gear for months now due to the roads being wet/greasy/sandy.
The S3 I'm talking about is the older shape 1.8T, and having owned both cars I can confirm in my opinion the remapped ED30 is quicker all round than my old remapped S3, only in the dry of course.
Yeah I was meaining the old 1.8T S3. A mapped one with 260bhp is gonna be able to launch better than a 300bhp front drive car of similar weight. The 40bhp extra is going to be wasted through the front wheels off the mark.
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Its quite difficult to get the older S3 off the line quick, they tend to bog down if you don't get things just right. But that isn't my point, my point is I've owned both, a 2000 S3 with APR stage 1, and now the ED30 with APR stage 1, and in the dry the ED30 is quicker all round. In the wet its a different ball game. I'm not really fussed if you agree or not, but from first hand experience this is my opinion for what its worth
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Its quite difficult to get the older S3 off the line quick, they tend to bog down if you don't get things just right. But that isn't my point, my point is I've owned both, a 2000 S3 with APR stage 1, and now the ED30 with APR stage 1, and in the dry the ED30 is quicker all round. In the wet its a different ball game. I'm not really fussed if you agree or not, but from first hand experience this is my opinion for what its worth
Fair enough. Wasn't trying to be pedantic, but its just that my mate has a 225 TT and it launches better than my Cupra does despite the TT's lack of bhp, and I understand the S3 is quicker than the TT initially.
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There was an S3 (new shape) at Inters last year. It went down the 1/4 mile quite a few times and the fastest 0-60 it managed was 5.75 seconds. Mine was standard at the time and managed 5.66. :smug:
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There was an S3 (new shape) at Inters last year. It went down the 1/4 mile quite a few times and the fastest 0-60 it managed was 5.75 seconds. Mine was standard at the time and managed 5.66. :smug:
show off :p
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0-60 is not so important for me,its when im up in speed its realy fun play with other cars :wink:
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The 0-60 is only possible about 50-75 days out of 365 anyway. I cant honestly recall the last time I felt full pull in 1st gear in my car as roads have been greasy/wet/sandy for months up this way, and summer time is normally half wet too :huh:
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I'd actually be more interested in whether the ED30 can make it as a sub 8.5 minute Nurburgring car. Now that would be cool. :cool:
Check out the Pagani Zonda F video :drool: :drool: :drool:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times