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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Phil mcavity on 03 January 2008, 19:30
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read on guys, found this in my new back Garden from my new friends in the passat forums.Wonder when it will debut in the GTi and R32..with my new love "Hill Hold" which is fab i have to say.
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22328
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This news has been around for a while. It's a dry box and won't be suitable for the more powerful Golfs apparently. At least not in its present form.
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read on guys, found this in my new back Garden from my new friends in the passat forums.Wonder when it will debut in the GTi and R32..with my new love "Hill Hold" which is fab i have to say.
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22328
Hi Phil - Happy new year.
I've read about this too, as it says in the thread it is due to be put in the lower powered car. This is because it "only" has a torque limit setting of 280nm as opposed to the 6 speed which is rated at 350nm.
It is good news though that VW are still pursuing different variations of the DSG box. IMO they may develop a 7 speed wet plate version which could have an even higher rating than the 6 speeder :drool: and ultimately have more fitting options.
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....All well and good but, quite frankly, 6 gears is quite enough in practice.
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Not for a remapped ED30 its not, I keep looking for a 7th gear because it pulls so well in 6th I think I'm in a lower gear :grin:
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....Mine pulls well in 6th too but there's so much torque that 7th would be a waste of time. At +125 mph (Autobahns) 7th is even less needed.
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Cheers Hurdy, happt new year to you too.
I keep an eagle eye on goings on here still, am really missing my olf GTi big stylie! :sick:
Keep up the good work Hurdy :smiley:
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read on guys, found this in my new back Garden from my new friends in the passat forums.Wonder when it will debut in the GTi and R32..with my new love "Hill Hold" which is fab i have to say.
http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22328
hill hold is great, aint it? I am glad I specced it on my car. :smiley:
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If I recall correctly it is only good for 250nm so will be unsuitable for high performance applications.
The main reason for this box is to keep the greeny's happy and cut emmisions.
7 gears are good for fuel economy and emmissions as it keeps the gearing and engine loads down. As for performance cars, there is nothing you can do with 7 that you can't do with 6 gears if you know what you're doing. Companies like BMW can bang on as much as they like about their fantastic 7 speed box like in the M5, but the main reason they put that in is because that V10 has bugger all torque.
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Audi already have an 8 speed box thats available in the new A4 (2.7 TDI at first) (and the A5 i think) seen as its going into the derv to start it should be able to easily deal with the torque the petrols kick out.
didn't lexus unveil a 7 or 8 speed auto the other day too?
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Audi already have an 8 speed box thats available in the new A4 (2.7 TDI at first) (and the A5 i think) seen as its going into the derv to start it should be able to easily deal with the torque the petrols kick out.
didn't lexus unveil a 7 or 8 speed auto the other day too?
They have, but the main aim of these is to keep respectable performance figures whilst returning good fuel efficency. With all the new emission regulations coming into effect the car companies are having to find new ways of producing more efficent cars. An easy wat to do this is to add more cogs so the car is always in its most efficient power band. Its also a bit of marketing one-up-manship.
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....I think that Komenda is spot-on in both his posts - A performance car 'driver' doesn't need so many gears - It's not as if there are many places where we can legally drive at speeds where more top gears would be useful. Also it's pure marketing hype: Mine's got more gears than yours crap!
I was taught on my high performance road course to use the gears MORE and not less, so that the car is always in an optimum state for either instant acceleration or more effective engine braking, whichever is needed first being more instantly at hand.
It's like all the rubbish being publicised about the importance of maintaining correct tyre pressures - It shouldn't be about improving mpg and supposed emissions but should be about the car being safer through better grip etc!!
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....I think that Komenda is spot-on in both his posts - A performance car 'driver' doesn't need so many gears - It's not as if there are many places where we can legally drive at speeds where more top gears would be useful. Also it's pure marketing hype: Mine's got more gears than yours crap!
I was taught on my high performance road course to use the gears MORE and not less, so that the car is always in an optimum state for either instant acceleration or more effective engine braking, whichever is needed first being more instantly at hand.
It's like all the rubbish being publicised about the importance of maintaining correct tyre pressures - It shouldn't be about improving mpg and supposed emissions but should be about the car being safer through better grip etc!!
Thanks for the endorsement RR. I grew up driving on the track more than the road so had a very different lesson to normal road driving. All drivers could benefit from advanced/high performance courses. If the government wants safer drivers then they should include some of it in the current test instead of putting up speed cameras.
The stuff you learn is invaluable, and as you say part of it tells you how to control your car by being in the right gear for the right situation.