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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 10:48

Title: Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 10:48

I have a standard 91 8v.

Somehow, unless I am imagining it the rear of the car sits lower now than it did 6 months ago.

This is how it looked when I bought it:

(http://tmn.wedigital.com/dev/ride.jpg)

Is there anything that would have made my car sitter lower now? Faulty springs/dampers?

If I have someone in the back now the the car regularly bangs against the stoppers.

Cheers

R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 22 March 2004, 10:53

burst shocks?

If you do change the shocks, change the bumpstops and top mounts

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 11:07

Wouldn't have I noticed burst shocks?

Would this happen over time or would it be a sudden change?

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 22 March 2004, 11:12

probably over time.

Im no expert but i had burst shocks and it was sitting very low and rubbing on every corner. :o

how does the ride fell? bouncy?

i think its common with mk2's and jetta mk2's ???

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 11:15

Sounds like it could be the case with mine.

This leads me to my next question:

Can i just replace the rear shocks, or should I replace all 4?

Are there any aftermarket shocks that are better than VAG *BUT* still give me the standard ride height (I like my car to look stock) oh and not too expensive!

Thanks, R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 22 March 2004, 11:27

think VR6 knows abit more about shocks.

I would change all four as they are probably gone aswel

Your old oil shocks replaced with gas ones maybe that will help?

Like i said im no expert :)

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 13:50

vr6?

Help!

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: golfvr6 on 22 March 2004, 15:31

It won't be the shocks, the ride height is dependant on the springs fitted, these can sag over time especially the rears, if you keep loading the boot or your rear calipers are seizing.
When changing springs or shocks, always replace an axle set.

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 17:19

my rear calipers were seized when I bought the car so I replaced these.

I know you said replace an axel set but may I as well I replace all 4 springs at once?

Is so are there any I can buy that are better than the VAG ones but still offer the same ride height as standard?

I assume I don't want to mix the front and back springs?

Also do I need to replace the bump stops and mounts as blueMkII mentioned?

Thanks. R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 22 March 2004, 17:42

eibach ar pretty good, and the fromt and rear springs are so wildly different you cant mix and match them, if you can afford it get some coilovers cos then you can have the ride height etc how you like it but still get improved handling!

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 22 March 2004, 17:43

p.s i wopuld do the top mounts and bumpstops, it isnt hard to do and you might as well doit when the car is in pieces, isnt mega expensive either

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 22 March 2004, 18:19

I don't really want to pay out for coilovers so it looks like I will just get some new springs.

Anyone else recommend eilbach? They are only ?100 or so a set which I imagine is the same price as the VW ones.

Are they definitely the same ride height?

Thanks, R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 22 March 2004, 19:00

thats what you get when you smuggle immigrants in yer boot ;D

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 22 March 2004, 22:29

coilovers are about ?350 for a set like mine (supersport goldlines)

i rather have them than to replace with original shocks to be honest

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: lowgolf on 23 March 2004, 13:45

What height ur running on your coilovers blue?

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 23 March 2004, 17:35

I think I'm gonna stick to VAG ones as I like my car standard.

Will I get much advantage in changing all 4 at the same time?  The front ones still look ok to me!

R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 25 March 2004, 14:51

I'll just change the rear ones then!!

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Gambit on 25 March 2004, 15:06

Eibach springs are immense, ive got them on mine and the difference they made in comfort and handling over the std spring was amazing - well worth every penny

also replace the rear spring top plate rubber seats as they spread over time

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 25 March 2004, 22:25

Quote from: lowgolf on 23 March 2004, 13:45

What height ur running on your coilovers blue?

im running at normal height at the mo for the sake of it.

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: lowgolf on 25 March 2004, 23:45

You get adjustable tension and rebound on those?

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Blue MK2 on 26 March 2004, 09:12

no you dont get ride damp adjusting.

but they can drop to a low 120mm if you want ;D

the ride is firm (some people claim) but mine feels harsh. but corners like a dream

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: Dizzie on 26 March 2004, 14:11

maybe that's what mine needs. it handles like a barge at the moment  >:(

gonna get my tracking and camber done to see if that helps.

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 26 March 2004, 18:02

Gambit,

Are you saying the Eibach springs give a more comfortable ride that the standard springs?

I'm happy enough with the handling of the standard springs but would upgrade them but NOT at the expense of comfort.

Are there different types, where did you get yours from?

R

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: modulater on 27 March 2004, 11:12

The Eibachs on mine are excellent and I have just this morning got KONI top adjustable rear dampers from C & R Enterprises that will be going on next week. If they are anything like the fronts you can have them like standard or wind them up so its stiff as a board.

I noticed when I took my boge ones off that the car sat higher and thats with the Eibachs on with both, I assume that different makes of dampers have the spring plate welded at different positions.

Also I carry a tool box, trolley jack and axle stands in the boot and coupled with the 18mm MDF acoustic shelf, that all adds a bit of weight to the rear of the car.

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: lowgolf on 28 March 2004, 18:56

Yeah all my tensioners are set on full hard, my suspension barely moves. As you say great for corners  ;D

Title: Re:Ride height changed?
Post by: reserves on 05 April 2004, 14:41

After some research I could only find Eibach's that lower the car 20mm.

Anyone know of some quality standard height springs?

R