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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: MK2RussRacer on 20 December 2007, 19:58
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Hello! whats the best thing for uprating ure brakes on a mk2??
my max wheel size is 15" so i believe that limits me to 280mm discs...
G60 set up is that my only option??
i dont wanna pay silly money for 4 pots as u can get floating calipers to work as well....
Thanks :cool:
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Its a bit of an odd one, 280mm fit inside some 15's but not others
For example, sometimes they fit inside ra's sometimes they dont, same with aftermarket wheels, some they fit under, some they dont
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imagine that g60 brakes fitting under g60 steelies would never have thought that :laugh: :laugh:
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Lots of help so far! lol....
the 15's im getting will ensure they fit no worries there.....
Anyone got anything constructive? :cool:
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I hust done the 280mm upgrade with the 22mm master cylinder, standard discs and pads. Really happy.... but I had grooved discs and a decent compound pad on my 239mm (think thats right) on my '90 8v, and they were great! So if you can afford it go 280mm, I would go for a set of grooved front discs, a good set of pads, go S.S brake lines all round. I also had by bias valve done a year or so ago which if you suspect it's toast you might as well while the brake fluid is being bleed. Also a half decent brake fluid should be budgeted for. Hope that hasn't given palpatations this close to christmas! :grin:
good luck
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yeh just make sure the calipers are working might be an idea to give them a recon/buy new ones and get some fast road pads(green stuff) and grooved disks, should be plenty of braking power, but if your going for serious track slag you might want to consider race pads ( green stuff, or even yellow stuff :shocked:)
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I've got a 280mm set up minus discs and pads here for £60 if you want - means you can buy the pads and discs you want.
I run 280mm stoppers and the 22mm master on my G2 Syncro and they are ace - really stand the car on it's nose when needed.
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G60 setup is good. Use braided lines, Zimmerman Discs and Pagid Fast road, or your prefered pads.
Nice.
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I've got a 280mm set up minus discs and pads here for £60 if you want - means you can buy the pads and discs you want.
I run 280mm stoppers and the 22mm master on my G2 Syncro and they are ace - really stand the car on it's nose when needed.
what have u got then? 2 front calipers im presuming??
I hust done the 280mm upgrade with the 22mm master cylinder, standard discs and pads. Really happy.... but I had grooved discs and a decent compound pad on my 239mm (think thats right) on my '90 8v, and they were great! So if you can afford it go 280mm, I would go for a set of grooved front discs, a good set of pads, go S.S brake lines all round. I also had by bias valve done a year or so ago which if you suspect it's toast you might as well while the brake fluid is being bleed. Also a half decent brake fluid should be budgeted for. Hope that hasn't given palpatations this close to christmas! :grin:
good luck
No palpatations here mate! i would buy brembo's if u could sneak them under the 15's
but im limited to 280mm so it limits my choice... and they dont work much better anyway!
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what have u got then? 2 front calipers im presuming??
Errr, no - caliper carriers, carrier mounting bolts, hubs and the calipers - everything bar the consumables.
It's not just a matter of swapping the calipers to go from 239-280.
I used Zimmerman discs on mine, which seem fine. As a mate pointed out vs others they also have holes in the bell which will improve ventilation and reduce heat transfer into the hubs.
The weight and performance of my car means drilled and grooved rotors wouldn't yield any advantage anyway.
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http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=562_588&products_id=8317
Best brakes you can buy for the money IMO. Super light and stopping power you'll only really get to use when you're on a track. Will need adaptors, but they're easily made up.
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what have u got then? 2 front calipers im presuming??
Errr, no - caliper carriers, carrier mounting bolts, hubs and the calipers - everything bar the consumables.
It's not just a matter of swapping the calipers to go from 239-280.
I used Zimmerman discs on mine, which seem fine. As a mate pointed out vs others they also have holes in the bell which will improve ventilation and reduce heat transfer into the hubs.
The weight and performance of my car means drilled and grooved rotors wouldn't yield any advantage anyway.
ill have them off you then mate do u have paypal? also can u find out the postage to my address which i can pm you... :cool:
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Sorry, chap, I already got a PM from a guy who lives 5 miles down the road from me asking for them. I'm not at home for a couple of days, so nothing's happening til then. If he fails to show at that point then they're yours.
If he does have them it's worth noting that if you get the 256mm 16V set up then you only need the carriers part number 357615125C and rotors to upgrade to 280mm discs. I *might* have a 256mm set up lying around, too. Alternatively go have a rummage in scrapyards for Passats - some of the bluff-fronted ones had 256mm front sets fitted, same as the 16V.
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cheers
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audi s2 girling 60 calipers combined with 280mm roesch vr2 discs.
(http://www.moj-album.com/slike/5923825/JBlkBjerZB72kNuZ.jpg)
(http://www.moj-album.com/slike/5923825/XvlCDa6mX8zmOPk5.jpg)
(http://www.moj-album.com/slike/5923825/nH3lMxX8wQKqlq03.v.jpg)
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Bloody ell that looks cool! 2 pot audi brakes hmmmmmm do they bolt straight on?
what does it take for the conversion?? :cool:
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apparenty they are bloody heavy though!
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they bolt straight on! you just need complete calipers with carriers, g60 brake lines and g60 discs. the pads are hard to get so make sure you get them with the calipers! in any condition - you must renew them.
they are heavy yes, about 6kg a piece if i remember correctly. hardcore :evil:
and they don't fit under all 15" rims!!! g60 steels are ok, i gotta try if they go under g60 sebring alloys. nowai for ats cups :cry:
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6kg!! :shocked:
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mmm drilled discs.... let's get cracking.
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With those s2 girling 60 calipers, do you use s2 pads or do g60 pads fit too? What carriers would I need, will g60 carriers work and as for the brake lines, I assume a set of goodridge g60 lines will work ok?
Btw, anybody know where you can get those roesch discs?
Thanks
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If he does have them it's worth noting that if you get the 256mm 16V set up then you only need the carriers part number 357615125C and rotors to upgrade to 280mm discs.
Hey mate,
You wouldn't happen to know which car that part comes from? I've been thinking about uprating my 256mm's lately. I'm running a drilled and slotted disc, but with my 16's, a 280mm setup would look even better! :D
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It comes from larger engined Ventos, Golfs, Passats, Corrados, Audi A4s, Seat Ibizas, Cordoba Varios and Toledos.
Anything with 280mm rotors, basically.
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It comes from larger engined Ventos, Golfs, Passats, Corrados, Audi A4s, Seat Ibizas, Cordoba Varios and Toledos.
Anything with 280mm rotors, basically.
Ah k cool. So for e.g. that should match the carrier off a Mk3 VR6, with 280mm or the later 288mm. Does this mean, all I'd need is the calliper carrier off a Mk3 VR6 and I could just swop them in?
Sorry for my ignorance. :embarassed:
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It comes from larger engined Ventos, Golfs, Passats, Corrados, Audi A4s, Seat Ibizas, Cordoba Varios and Toledos.
Anything with 280mm rotors, basically.
Ah k cool. So for e.g. that should match the carrier off a Mk3 VR6, with 280mm or the later 288mm. Does this mean, all I'd need is the calliper carrier off a Mk3 VR6 and I could just swop them in?
Sorry for my ignorance. :embarassed:
Does that seem right? :)
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Just a word of warning for anyone shopping around for replacement disc's. DO NOT USE A COMPANY NAMED CRN PRODUCTS!!
They allegedly sell after market performance disc's and pads and were advertising on ebay. They also have a very convincing website. I put in an order for a set of grooved disc's, front and rear for my G60 along with a set of Greenstuff pads nearly THREE WEEKS AGO, and I have yet to see what I paid 270 sterling for! Repeated e-mails and phone calls have little or no response and I am considering legal action. I have now found that there are none of their products now listed on ebay and this I find a little worrying. I am decidedly pi55ed off. :angry: :angry: :angry:
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Ah k cool. So for e.g. that should match the carrier off a Mk3 VR6, with 280mm or the later 288mm. Does this mean, all I'd need is the calliper carrier off a Mk3 VR6 and I could just swop them in?
Sorry for my ignorance. :embarassed:
Is it that simple? Just swop over caliper carriers from say a Mk3 VR6 and I'm a winner? :) Or do I need to take the VR6 hub, carrier, caliper etc.?
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The only differences between the UK spec GTI 16V 256mm brake set up and the 280mm set up are the rotors and caliper carriers.
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Mint.. :) I'm going to source myself some new rotors and calliper carriers then. :) I've got a set of drilled and slotted 256mm rotors that I was going to replace my old drilled and slotted ones with, so I'll sell those and make the move to 280mm. :)