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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: nictron on 10 December 2007, 21:48

Title: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 10 December 2007, 21:48
ok, heres the story.. a few months ago i bought me a little old 1990 1.6 driver. the plan is to get it on the road for as little as poss as it only cost me £75 and have bought a few bits and bobs since. it has been parked round the back of a local garage where iv been working on it (when i say working i mean learning :tongue:). anyway, all was going well got the thing running nicely for a while but due to lack of money it was then left for a few weeks without being started. i went back to it this weekend and to my confusion it wouldnt start  :sad: i knew that the HT leads were about 17 years old lol so i thought that due to the damp this would have been the problem. so went and bought some shiney new leads along with a new dizzy cap and rotor arm. fitted them all... and.. it didnt start :smiley:.
now i know that its getting fuel to the carb, and it is getting a spark (although perhaps a little weak), the starter motor turns the engine fine but all i get is some sort of popping and no firing. iv checked that the coil is ok using the ohmmeter accross the terminals with the readings showing that its ok. so.. now im stuck?? any help would be much appreciated :smiley:

thanks for reading
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: Conker on 10 December 2007, 22:46
The dudes on here will sort you out, but in the meantime, my [basic] advice would be to double check you've fitted the leads back on in the right order on the dizzy and check that they are all completely "clicked" down.

Have you tried bumping it? Mine wouldn't start a while back (after some fuel system work), but a quick bump sorted it out, and not been a problem since. (Presumably the system just needed re-pressurising)
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 10 December 2007, 22:51
Ah will give it bump tomoro see if that helps cheers. i was wondering if i had the leads on correctly. i think i have. i know they go 1342 but wasnt sure which was no. 1 on the cap. ??
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nealey on 10 December 2007, 22:58
My mate done this on his polo, fitted new leads and had 2 &3 on the wrong way round, did nothing but turn over and pop, swopped the leads and it fired up straight away
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: Conker on 10 December 2007, 22:59
i know they go 1342 but wasnt sure which was no. 1 on the cap. ??

I only know my 16v Im afraid.  On that No.1 is at 10 o'clock when looking straight at the dizzy
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: rubjonny on 12 December 2007, 17:22
normally #1 is closest to the head, but dizzy may have been moved.  what you need to do is turn engine over to top dead centre on cyl # 1 then check where de rotor arm is pointing, thats where #1 needs to go. Or you could go with trial & error, you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting it right 1st time  :grin:

It is 1342 as you say, clockwise on an 8v :)
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 13 December 2007, 18:14
turned out i was just being stupid. tried a bit of trail and error and worked a treat got her up n running once again:P now to sort out the high idling problems :tongue:

thanks for the help
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: rubjonny on 13 December 2007, 18:39
woot  :cool:
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 13 December 2007, 19:02
hmm was wandering, is it common for the wax stat/expansion element for fail on the lovely old peirburg 2e2? cause mine is idling stupidly high and wont come down. the only thing i can see stopping the throttle dropping back is that the plunger in the wax stat isn not pushing that other little plunger thing far enough. how far does the wax stat usually expand by?? only seems to exand by about 5mm ish...?? :smiley:
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: Jay on 13 December 2007, 19:04
turned out i was just being stupid. tried a bit of trail and error and worked a treat got her up n running once again:P now to sort out the high idling problems :tongue:

thanks for the help
Gratz!  :grin: Hope you get the high idling sorted soon.
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 13 December 2007, 19:05
me too lol :grin:
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: rubjonny on 13 December 2007, 19:24
check oot my 2e2 faq :)
They can fail or it can be becasue the coolant channel o'ring has swolen shut, blocking off flow to the waxstat & autochoke unit.  If they don't seem to be working, removing the stat and chucking it in boiling water sometimes 'resets' the wax, worth a go!
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: nictron on 13 December 2007, 19:36
yeh read your post a while back :tongue: replaced the gasket and oring that took bloody hours lol. chucked the thing in boiling water but didnt seem to make a difference :S oh the joys of old cars:)
Title: Re: wont start :(
Post by: rubjonny on 13 December 2007, 22:53
reet well its probaly time to chuk it in t bin and buy a new one.  or if ya like me nick one out the scrappy  :grin: