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Title: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 10:49
Chaps !

Currently own a 2.0l and the plan was to swap this for the 1.8T model in April when I turn 21. I had planned to do a staight swap (sell this and money for this goes on new car). There really isnt anything jumping out at me and Im worried its really going to start to cost more to get the one I want. Not to mention extra insurance costs etc.

The whole point of me getting the 1.8T is that I want to remap it and go faster (how old am I lol !) but then costs are just goingt o keep going up and up with insurance plus extra stuff. I have held of modding this car (simple things like colour codeing, nice wheels, interior touches etc) due to planning on selling it, but I'm seroisuly thinking of just makeing this one I have no look pretty and keeping it for anouther 2 years or so. I have recently had meetings at work with regards to pay and I now have a structerd plan in place which will see me earning a lot more money over the next years.

So my question is simple, is it really going to be worth the extra costs of finding, purchasing, insuring the 1.8T when I have a perfect example of a 2.0 (which I know is not the fastest thing in the world, but its by no means slow now is it). Mint body (apart from a tiny dink on the wing mirror). Runs as sweet as a nut, not had problems. I can just see myself buying this 1.8T and then having problems and then being skint and not having a life because all my money goes on the car when I could have just kept what I got now and waited another few years.

Hummmmmmmm . . . .  :undecided:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 11:05
Stop being such a pussy and get the 20vt you tosser!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 11:27
Nothing like cutting the crap and getting right to the point :D
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 12:58
LOL! Sorry dude  :grin:

When you remap a 1.8t the fuel consumption doesnt go up if you drive it sensibly but it just makes you want to put your foot down more! I have never actually driven an 8v or been in one but I have raced a few and they are slow in comparison! If your car is mint and the only reason for selling it and getting a 1.8t is to go a bit faster you do have to think can you afford the petrol to be going fast? If you can then do it, especially since you can sell yours and get a 1.8t without having to actually put anymore money in!

Have you ever driven a 1.8t?
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: R98 HUF on 03 December 2007, 13:12
get a 1.8T mate you know you want to.....

reckon you will get a good price for yours and buy a comparible 1.8T for no extra money...

and the 1.8T wond drink oil like the 2.0 :wink:

As for insurance, remap dont tell them (i didnt say that tho) and as Ash says fuel wont change too much with a remap!!!!!!

OR buy a leon Cupra R(225bhp and remap that to over 270bhp)
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: R98 HUF on 03 December 2007, 13:18
take a look at the chipped 1 in the For Sale section ti will make your mind up!!!!!
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 13:38
Ash, never driven a 1.8T, want to lend me yours for an hour or so lol ?

Si, I dont think the old Cupras have the 225bhp engine, thats just the new ones isnt it?

Hummmmmm . . ..
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 13:40
So you have never actually driven one and your thinking of selling your car for one? LOL! You need to have a go in one thats been mapped, il give you a whirl in mine mate thats not a prob, just got to wait for the last two coats of paint to be done (omg does it look sexy ;) )
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 13:43
Surely its just the same as mine (pretty much), just goes faster when you put your foot down?
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 14:31
its completely different mate, the rev range is longer (20valve not 8v) when the turbo kicks in you get the feel/sound. It makes for a much more fun driving experience than a naturally aspirated car!
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Mr Blue on 03 December 2007, 14:36
Stop being such a pussy and get the 20vt you tosser!  :laugh:


hahaha :grin:

4 motion it :cool:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Rhyso on 03 December 2007, 15:10
 :rolleyes:

**cough**

need i say more  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 15:17
:rolleyes:

**cough**

need i say more  :lipsrsealed:

No I think you have said enough.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: topher on 03 December 2007, 15:27
:rolleyes:

**cough**

need i say more  :lipsrsealed:

nasty cough you got there Rhyso, must be from inhaling all those tractor fumes?

drive one alan, you'll want one.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 15:34
I have also driven a GT tdi mate and I was surprised with them if im honest, map one of them and your away and then you havent got all the problems of fuel bills, but tbh if it was me, id get a petrol you know it makes sense
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 15:54
Please form an orderly queue to let me test drive your 1.8T.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ashmond on 03 December 2007, 16:21
You can have a go in mine when its sprayed up...f**k it  :laugh:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: BobbyT on 03 December 2007, 16:26
1.8t is such a great lump, you can get big power for fook all money!
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 03 December 2007, 17:09
Sorry for sounding like the old man, but if the turbo is going to plunge you into debt, then I would serious consider holding onto your 2 ltr.  Maybe reassess the situation in 12 months when you've got more income coming in??? :wink:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Mr Blue on 03 December 2007, 17:32
yeh these 1.8t engines have alot of faults too

GT TDI is a torqy lump. remapped and your a winner :cool:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: richw911 on 03 December 2007, 18:17
1. Take out a 1.8T for a test drive.
2  You wont look back  :wink:
3  Running costs are nowhere near as bad as you might think.

Ive had my 1.8T for three years and done 40000 miles in it, the worst thing to go wrong was both the windows dropping into the door.The engine has not missed a beat!! You know you NEED one.  :grin:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 19:20
I'm not concerned about running cost, I think my 2.0 probs cost more to run than a 1.8T

Looks like 20vT here I come ! :D
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Lennon on 03 December 2007, 19:54
Oddly i'm in pretty much exactly the same situation as aland, right down to the colour of my 2.0l and looking at a 1.8t in april ! (i'm a bit older though)

One thing which is putting me off is.... I've read a bit about remaps and saying that you need to run it on optimax/premium fuels etc.  With the way petrol prices are going at the moment that is surely going to add up quite a lot.  Even if your not hammering round everywhere the extra cost of of the fuel will add up i'd imagine.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Rhyso on 03 December 2007, 20:42
:rolleyes:

**cough**

need i say more  :lipsrsealed:

No I think you have said enough.

 :tongue:

:rolleyes:

**cough**

need i say more  :lipsrsealed:

nasty cough you got there Rhyso, must be from inhaling all those tractor fumes?

you learn to put up with it after a while

One thing which is putting me off is.... I've read a bit about remaps and saying that you need to run it on optimax/premium fuels etc.  With the way petrol prices are going at the moment that is surely going to add up quite a lot.  Even if your not hammering round everywhere the extra cost of of the fuel will add up i'd imagine.

don't need to worry about that so much with diesel  :smiley:

if you're going to be strugginling finacially then do the sensible thing and wait another 12 months and re asses your situation.  No point bankrupting yourself and then having to sell the turbo; you'll loose a lot of money.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: richw911 on 03 December 2007, 20:50
I'm not concerned about running cost, I think my 2.0 probs cost more to run than a 1.8T

I ment the overall cost Ie: insurance ect. looks like you made up you mind,("Looks like 20vT here I come"  :laugh:)  now just got to decide what colour you want  :smug:  :grin:
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: AlanD on 03 December 2007, 22:00
Im not fussed over colour, if the right car comes along in the right knick at the right price then I'll take it.

Anyway, tis not till April, thank god you guys managed to knock some sense back into me, I dont know what over came me this afternoon.

It shall never happen again.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 04 December 2007, 11:11
Oddly i'm in pretty much exactly the same situation as aland, right down to the colour of my 2.0l and looking at a 1.8t in april ! (i'm a bit older though)

One thing which is putting me off is.... I've read a bit about remaps and saying that you need to run it on optimax/premium fuels etc.  With the way petrol prices are going at the moment that is surely going to add up quite a lot.  Even if your not hammering round everywhere the extra cost of of the fuel will add up i'd imagine.

Nonsence.

People just map them on/run them on supers' to maximise the gains, that's all.  The only thing it won't like (initially, anyway - & also, not that it will be a major problem) is mapping it on super & then running it on cheapo stuff & maybe vice versa.......???
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Lennon on 04 December 2007, 16:48
cheers, I guess i'm sold too :)

I'll start keeping my eyes open for one next year I think.
Title: Re: Hummm Is it realllllly worth it?
Post by: Turbo_Dazza on 04 December 2007, 17:00
Dooooo it i did and im only 21 though i did have to go 3rd,f,t but it was only £650 gonna be remapping mine soon as my mate who races has a dealership deal with revo cant wait  :laugh: yourl love it!