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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: dubmaster77 on 29 November 2007, 22:51
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Im told this conversion is the way forward take the callipers from a mk4 golf and stick em on my mk 2! Now i know the actuall conections are different, What is the best way round this? And what about the handbrake cables and brake pads????? How much we looking at? What is the score!
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You need conversion hoses to fit them, the MK4 caliper has a banjo-type connection.
if your mk2 is post 87, the fitment is the same for the handbrake cable, if its pre87 then you just fit them upside down. Problem is the bleed nipple will then be on the bottom, so you have to take em off & hang em up the right way to bleed.
They don't offer any advantage over MK3 calipers except they're a bit lighter, so dont bother unless you find em really cheap.
Plus even though they're aloy they still corrode too, so make sure you paint em if you find a set otherwise they sieze up, and make sure the bleed nipples are freed off because they sieze in very easily cos they're steel!
Edit: MK2 discs n pads fit straight into the MK3 & MK4 calipers :)
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Why thank you! Is there not a convertor avaolable to fit the hoses into banjo connections?
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ive got some ready to go on.. there maybe other places but i found this website, goodrich braided for the mk2 to mk4 conversion...
im lead to understand as it wasnt mentioned earlier.. use mk4 pads and mk2 discs
Golf 2 with Golf 4 rear callipers £27
http://www.tsr-performance.com/pages/goodridge.asp
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so i dont need to buy mk4 rear pads i can use mk2 pads and discs.. sound cheers
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Why thank you! Is there not a convertor avaolable to fit the hoses into banjo connections?
what dolly said. i did say all this in the other thread you put up in another section about this!
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so to make it worth it you have to get a set for about £27 less than you can get a set of late MK3 calipers for ;)
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yeh but a 4 inline braided hose set is around £25 cheaper than the 6, seeing as youll already have the 2 to the rear callipers.... i guess its not so bad, but i did get my mk4 callipers at a good price or as mentioned id have gone mk3 :)
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just make sure you get the right 4 line kit, gsf for example sell a 4 line kit that incldes the 4 caliper lines NOT 2 fronts and 2 rear beam ones...
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hmm well thats just daft, i was niave enough to think that inline 4 was for drums and 6 was for callipers, ill go get mine made up privatly at £6 a line anywhos :wink:
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its for lazy owners who dont want to go underneath :grin:
you can get 4 line kits which include the beam flexis though, just not GSF. The clue is it says 'for models with rear discs' :)
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Is there any stopping advantage with the 3 & or 4 rear callipers over the MK2 type?
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nope non at all, same size piston, pads & discs.
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Sorry guys! I have just read the above and im confused? I guessed I would need to buy new hoses but which pads can i use?? There seems to be a disagrement? :laugh:
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You need MK2 -> MK4 conversion flexi hoses, and you use std MK2 discs & pads. I know becasue I just did it to my mates MK2 ;)
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but being mk4 callipers i suppose mk4 pads would be ok? my mk2 pads have loads left in them so ill be using mk2 discs and pads :smiley:
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am i missing the point here, what is the actual advantage of using mk4 calipers??? ok i know there slightly lighter because there alloy??? and because there alloy are they less likely to seize?? but there the same sized piston so whats the point???
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they will probably seize as well give it 12 months.. i know the bleed screws seize in because of different material.. one advantage i guess is there seems to be alot of used but VGC rear callipers from mk4's because they are newer cars. ill happily use them straight off.. the older ones mk3 and mk2 used will almost certainly benifit from a re-con so thats £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£
what it all comes down to, IMHO what can you find for the least amount of £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£, in the best condition
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ok thats what i thought was just wondering if there was any benefit of using them, doesn't bother me as my driver has drums on the back anyway :grin: was just curious as a few people have mentioned this swap and i wasnt sure why
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its the internal handbrake mechanism that is better. mk2's are exposed which is often why they sieze.
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its the internal handbrake mechanism that is better. mk2's are exposed which is often why they sieze.
or freeze... in these arctic conditions :cry:
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The MK4 mech isn't any better than the late MK3 units, and the MK4 calipers also have problems with the nipples siezing in + they corrode quite badly due to them being unprotected aluminium. If you do get a set make sure you paint em, plus you have the added expense of the MK4 adaptor cables! The ONLKY advantage MK4 calipers have is the weight, I'd go with MK3 units every time unless you can get MK4 calipers really cheap!
MK4 pads should fit I think, but its not the caliper that determines what pads you get, its the carriers. The pad slides into groves in the carriers, the caliper just fits over the top of the pads.
Edit: Its the cables that freeze usually, if the boots are ripped water gets in and the inner cable freezes in place :)