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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: john_o on 28 November 2007, 22:25
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Well , its now run in and I can stretch its legs and the biggest disappointment is the brakes :angry:
Any 'pushing on' just leaves you with no feel and little confidence.
I am hoping they may get better with even more miles but I doubt it!
So what are the options for upgrades on the GTI/ED30? (std 18inch ED30 wheels)
And what does everyone else think of the brakes ?
John
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im hoping to upgrade my brakes and calipers so i will be watching this thread
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There are quite a few brake upgrades out there
Tarox
Brembo
AP
ECS
The one below is the one I'll be getting :drool:
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/images/ecs_go5_st5br_l.jpg
With red calipers:-
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/images/ecs_cay6caliper_r.jpg
Bought from here:-
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/vw%20golfmk5/brakes.html
You can go absolutely bonkers if you have the cash, but I think 6 pot Porsche brakes that come off a 2.5 tonne 4x4 are more than enough :drool:
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Yeah i find the brakes to be the weakest point. Bite ok, but fades very quickly. So after a few hard stomps, its like there's a block of wood under the pedal.
I'll probably get some Brembos some time. Was quoted about 1400 inc fitting i think.
Kev
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I upgraded to AP Racing and the pedal feel is so much better than with the stock brakes. No snatching and no fading and instant response at all speeds (I tested on autobahns). Added bonus of 10Kg weight saving too!
I'd rather have them and not need them, than need them and not have them!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake1.jpg)
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_BB.jpg)
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Did feel like mine were a little soft compared to the demo i drove... took it into the dealers and they told me they were very soft compared to both their demos. Apart from that they are fandabbydosey :grin: no fade whatso ever.. not that i would ever drive that fast :evil:
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Well , its now run in and I can stretch its legs and the biggest disappointment is the brakes :angry:
Any 'pushing on' just leaves you with no feel and little confidence.
I am hoping they may get better with even more miles but I doubt it!
So what are the options for upgrades on the GTI/ED30? (std 18inch ED30 wheels)
And what does everyone else think of the brakes ?
John
I think they are crap too... almost reminds me of the Mk1 brakes in terms of lack of confidence in them... I honestly felt better when driving my Mk2 16v in terms of braking than the Ed30. The R32 brakes were awesome... :tongue:
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Well , its now run in and I can stretch its legs and the biggest disappointment is the brakes :angry:
Any 'pushing on' just leaves you with no feel and little confidence.
I am hoping they may get better with even more miles but I doubt it!
So what are the options for upgrades on the GTI/ED30? (std 18inch ED30 wheels)
And what does everyone else think of the brakes ?
John
I think they are crap too... almost reminds me of the Mk1 brakes in terms of lack of confidence in them... I honestly felt better when driving my Mk2 16v in terms of braking than the Ed30. The R32 brakes were awesome... :tongue:
Its little things like this that make you an R32 really is worth the extra money.. Its just because the Gti is good value the R32 get blasted as being too expensive.
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I came from a BMW before my GTI, and I agree totally, the brakes are a real downfall of the car. My BMW 3 Series brakes were so much better, so much feel to them. :rolleyes:
My girlfriends new Blue motion Polo brakes, although no where near the stopping power have alot more feel and there isnt about half an inch of travel before they work like on my GTI. I think this is the reason why GTI brakes snatch. Mine seem to have an "on and off". Makes for quite jerky breaking when you just slightly apply the breaks. My girlfriend (when she summons the courage to drive my GTI) thinks they are the worst breaks she has ever used!
Only a small moan really, but not one that stops me from loving this car so much ............. :cool:
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i was thinking that the new cupra/new r32 calipers would work and could be a lot cheaper and would still have vw cover on them.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/whiteleon6007-1.jpg)
they have a larger caliper's than ed30
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Thanks everyone for the replies.
As ever warranty becomes a concern with such a visible mod , but hey!
All options look great, I guess it comes down to cash.
a) I could try to put in harder pads , which often helps , for a much smaller outlaw
b) full new brakes circa 1k roughly
definitely a feel issue though as well as actual stopping performance.
So maybe braided lines may help matters on a std setup.
still under consideration
JohnO
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you could try these brake stiffening kit from tyrol sport. i have some just need to fit them at some point
http://www.tyrolsport.com/vwperformance.htm
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I'm suprised people are saying their brakes are crap - for a road car i'd say my brakes were excellent - no fade over the cairnamount which is a road local too me that has induced fade in quite a few previous chariots i've had!
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I'm suprised people are saying their brakes are crap - for a road car i'd say my brakes were excellent - no fade over the cairnamount which is a road local too me that has induced fade in quite a few previous chariots i've had!
Ollie, what are you driving now?
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These.....
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/OllieB7/Beamer020.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/OllieB7/Beamer014.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/OllieB7/ovalnearlythere0171-1.jpg)
And a previous fade monster!
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a355/OllieB7/evo5.jpg)
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For some reason I assumed you sold GTI :undecided:
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no - Company car so no sellin for a while......
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no - Company car so no sellin for a while......
nice company you have there :laugh:
look after its employees' desire for sporty rides :evil:
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ollie is that an oval rag top you have there? i have a 56 rhd one as well :laugh:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/100_0433.jpg)
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I'm suprised people are saying their brakes are crap - for a road car i'd say my brakes were excellent - no fade over the cairnamount which is a road local too me that has induced fade in quite a few previous chariots i've had!
I suppose I will find out for sure when I come back from Awesome over the Snake pass after just having it remapped :undecided:
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I'm suprised people are saying their brakes are crap - for a road car i'd say my brakes were excellent - no fade over the cairnamount which is a road local too me that has induced fade in quite a few previous chariots i've had!
I suppose I will find out for sure when I come back from Awesome over the Snake pass after just having it remapped :undecided:
....But you said you would only switch to the remap for quarter-milers and track days!! :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh:
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I'm suprised people are saying their brakes are crap - for a road car i'd say my brakes were excellent - no fade over the cairnamount which is a road local too me that has induced fade in quite a few previous chariots i've had!
I suppose I will find out for sure when I come back from Awesome over the Snake pass after just having it remapped :undecided:
....But you said you would only switch to the remap for quarter-milers and track days!! :grin: :laugh: :grin: :laugh:
Test drive.... honest :rolleyes:
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ollie is that an oval rag top you have there? i have a 56 rhd one as well :laugh:
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d122/mat138l/100_0433.jpg)
Yeah mines a 56 too - Rhd? Sweet!