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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 2007GTI on 19 November 2007, 14:20
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I was reading another post about buying genuine R32/ED30 smoked rear lights and was doing some research and come across this:
http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_Genuine_LED_Rear_Lights-2220-241.html
Am I missing something, as I didn't think VW produced genuine LED rear lights for the Mk5 yet, or is this brand new?
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I thought LED lights would throw up error faults in the ECU as it thinks you have blown bulbs. Heard about LED's on MKV's before but don't know anyone who would want to fit them.
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thats the point, they say they are "from the factory" and therefore OEM...Ill find out....
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....I met a guy at the recent Oxford show who has a superb Steel Grey Mk5 GTI (with cloth Recaros too!) and he had them fitted - Excellent in my opinion - I plan to get some.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LEDtails.jpg)
That linked site doesn't have any pics as yet :(
IF they are the same as in my pic, then £250 inc vat & shipping is a good price.
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They may be from the factory, but they will most likely still need the fault codes removing through either VAG-COM or at the dealer to set them up right. :nerd:
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Thanks for the pic RR :smiley:
They do actually look quite lush :drool:
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fair enough! I can't find them in the current official VW brochure, so I guess they haven't come out on UK cars as yet?
I agree they do look good, if they are the same as the ones vw speed are selling.
they do look OEM, like the ones the Golf Plus has had for a year or so.
They may be from the factory, but they will most likely still need the fault codes removing through either VAG-COM or at the dealer to set them up right. :nerd:
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....As well as looking lush 'n cool (beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that), they solve the problem of such poor visibilty which the stock tail lights have - Difficulty of seeing the indicator while the brake lights are on.
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....As well as looking lush 'n cool (beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that), they solve the problem of such poor visibilty which the stock tail lights have - Difficulty of seeing the indicator while the brake lights are on.
I agree with that. I have followed a few MKV's and the contrast between the rear light/brake light and the indicator isn't the best. :sad:
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I am getting a bit worried now... I have to have a set of these - if the dealers can set them up properly - and my shopping list for the Ed30 is beginning to add up ominously. Will probably have to set aside £4-5k to do eveything I want :shocked: Could have a really nice Mk2 GTI at that price... or even a Integra Type-R or Subaru STI with 300hp+ as a runaround.
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I am getting a bit worried now... I have to have a set of these - if the dealers can set them up properly - and my shopping list for the Ed30 is beginning to add up ominously. Will probably have to set aside £4-5k to do eveything I want :shocked: Could have a really nice Mk2 GTI at that price... or even a Integra Type-R or Subaru STI with 300hp+ as a runaround.
....I dare not calculate what I have spent additionally on my Mk5 GTI !! No regrets though - I enjoy what I've got every time I drive. :smiley:
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add me to the list as well , they are lush :cool:
Maybe worth doing something Audi R8 ish for the front sidelights too :evil:
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i want a pair of these - do they definitely not knacker the computer?
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I spoke to VW Speed and they assure me they are like the picture, but are going to check and he said they are genuine VW.
However he did say another Mk5 owner is checking out whether they will throw up a fault code or not.
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Group buy anyone? I'm definetly interested... :smiley:
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I'd be up for that :nerd:
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....I'm deffo interested in a group buy too.
Btw, I'm still waiting for info re a group buy on carbonfibre VW badges.
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Lots of people in America have this Mod. It apparently does not throw up any errors. But lets not believe that. Rather play it safe :nerd:
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I've only seen Euro Spec ones so you do have to re-wire the reverse and Fog light
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I spoke to my VW dealer this morning and he says it's no problem for him to fit and won't cost much either :smiley:
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whats this about having to rewire the fog light? Mine is on the offside just like the pic
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whats this about having to rewire the fog light? Mine is on the offside just like the pic
Yeah the fog in the pic is on the UK side, but I've never seen these for sale. Only seen the Euro Spec on here:
http://www.fischermotorsport.de/Volkswagen/VW-Golf-Mk5-VW-Jetta-Mk5/Lightning/OEM-LED-taillights-VW-Golf-Mk5-6.6338.html
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It's supposed to be an easy job to swop the reversing and fog small centre lenses over for right-hand drive cars and wire/VAGcom accordingly.
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However he did say another Mk5 owner is checking out whether they will throw up a fault code or not.
That will be me.
I emailled him a few weeks ago as the link is without picture. If they are the right ones I am def. getting a set. I was a little concerned about the position of the Fog / Reverse light but the pic above shows it on the correct side, hopefully easy to swap lens or maybe they are RHD?
They are a straight fit but you do have to code with VAG COM, probably coding from a Jetta.
See here. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3358144
US. owners have to mess with wiring and add a 4th wire which luckilly our european cars already have.
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I was a little concerned about the position of the Fog / Reverse light but the pic above shows it on the correct side, hopefully easy to swap lens or maybe they are RHD?
....The owner of the Steel Grey car I posted a pic of told me that he swopped the reversing/fog lenses himself.
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he wellsy - have they still not replied after all this time? :shocked:
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Aren't the led lights fitted to the golf plus as standard?
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Thanks for that.
So if we swap the lenses ourselves, how and where do we get the VAGCOM coding I wonder?
However he did say another Mk5 owner is checking out whether they will throw up a fault code or not.
That will be me.
I emailled him a few weeks ago as the link is without picture. If they are the right ones I am def. getting a set. I was a little concerned about the position of the Fog / Reverse light but the pic above shows it on the correct side, hopefully easy to swap lens or maybe they are RHD?
They are a straight fit but you do have to code with VAG COM, probably coding from a Jetta.
See here. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3358144
US. owners have to mess with wiring and add a 4th wire which luckilly our european cars already have.
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The VAG COM coding is in the vwvortex link that I posted.
VWspeed did reply, but just to say that they didn't have any pictures yet and that they were not aware of the extra work involved in fitting.
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Aren't the led lights fitted to the golf plus as standard?
Yes, I was just about to post that. I followed one home from college today and the LED's caught my eye, probably wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for this thread
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but arent the golf plus lights a different shape to the standard mk5 hatch?
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I'm just waiting for more info but I def want to get them myself... When we have all the info and it is an easy swap for most people, I - or someone who wants to volunteer - can organise a group buy... Probably be better for someone with links to the motor parts trade to haggle a better deal... I'l probably end up getting ripped off :embarassed:
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but arent the golf plus lights a different shape to the standard mk5 hatch?
....Correct :smiley: - Same type but totally different shape and size. :cool:
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go on illyun you know you want to :) we're all waiting with baited breathe..
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Well VW speed give a discount to UK-MKIVS so i'm sure if a few of us buy a set, we'll get something off?
(i'm definately getting a set if they are the right ones and the reverse/fog issue can be sorted)
Need to hurry VW speed in showing us a picture.
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it begs the question, why don't they just fit a set to one of their cars so their customers can benefit from knowing the parts will work!
Well VW speed give a discount to UK-MKIVS so i'm sure if a few of us buy a set, we'll get something off?
(i'm definately getting a set if they are the right ones and the reverse/fog issue can be sorted)
Need to hurry VW speed in showing us a picture.
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I asked VW Speed if they could fit some to one of their own cars and their response was:
"I would but I don't have immediate access to a Mk5 Golf."
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I asked VW Speed if they could fit some to one of their own cars and their response was:
"I would but I don't have immediate access to a Mk5 Golf."
Guinea pig anyone? :undecided:
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I asked VW Speed if they could fit some to one of their own cars and their response was:
"I would but I don't have immediate access to a Mk5 Golf."
Guinea pig anyone? :undecided:
....Whereabouts are they? The link isn't working at the moment.
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http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_Genuine_LED_Rear_Lights-2220-0.html - THIS LINK WORKS ROBIN
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Right... the are based in Norwich... not too far from me then in Ipswich. I will give them a call tomorrow with regards to a group buy and see if I can guinea pig the lights. Its going to be a tricky one though as if I need to guinea pig the lights befoee you lazy lot make your minds up :grin: :grin: :grin:
Could I have a show of hands as to who is SERIOUS about buying these lights - they aren't cheap remember and I am sure it would be easy to get sidelined into what else you could buy with £250 and I remember the tardy response to paying for the VAG Com leads that Rhyso organised - me included :embarassed: :lipsrsealed: but I did pay eventually :rolleyes: So, a serious show of hands please so I can have some kind of negotiating position when I call them, thanks.
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deffo interested mate - will try not to be as tardy as i was with the vagcom leads (just remember the triangle) :grin:
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They look pretty cool. Wouldn't mind a set myself. I've found a little bit of information about them on a US forum. Is it ok to post links to other forums or not? I'm fairly new here and don't know/remember all the rules or etiquette.
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Norwich is a bit too far for me but you have already stepped up to the plate, illyun :smiley:
Can I suggest that anyone seriously interested copies and reposts this list with their name added:
illyun
RedRobin
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Norwich is a bit too far for me but you have already stepped up to the plate, illyun :smiley:
Can I suggest that anyone seriously interested copies and reposts this list with their name added:
illyun
RedRobin
Good idea... why didn't I think of that? :embarassed:
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They look pretty cool. Wouldn't mind a set myself. I've found a little bit of information about them on a US forum. Is it ok to post links to other forums or not? I'm fairly new here and don't know/remember all the rules or etiquette.
Welcome to the forum mate. :smiley: I'm sure its not a problem to link to other forums as long as one doesn't go around spamming and link marketing :grin: :grin: :grin: Also, I think a link with a deceptive Golf GTI title but which leads to a hardcore porn site instead would probably make you popular here but also get you banned :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
The links I've found are to do with DIY installations of the LED lights but they include a couple of pictures.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3358144
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3535789
IMO they look much better than the standard lights.
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....Some useful info and pics on the vortex links but bear in mind that American GTI's are the subject there.
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Any more for the group buy... I don't think VW Speed will be very impressed if I say there are 3 people lined up to buy the lights or will we have to order them individually? :undecided:
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How about a post over in UKMKIV's group buy section :smiley:
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Why not find out how much we'll get knocked off? I can't imagine it being much. Plus it will take weeks to set up and get everyones interest then money, then an order, then distribution...
I'm really impatient if you hadn't noticed and if I decide I want a set, i'll probably order them straight away. (it was a painful 16 weeks wait for the car by the way LOL)
All I'm waiting on is a picture from VW speed to confirm they are the correct ones and not some chavvy saxo style ones. I've read up on these a lot in the past few weeks and am confident I have the know how to fit them. I have a fully regged VAG COM too.
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I'm glad my topic has gained some momentum / enthusiasm, but I agree, lets no muck about with a group buy, too much hassle, for I can imagine is a small reduction.
Let just confirm that they are genuine VW, which he assures me they are and they don't throw up fault codes!
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cool.. so who's gonna buy some :)
If these are genuine VAG then how come they aren't shipping on golfs now?
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that is a very very good point, but we all know how penny pinching VW are!
cool.. so who's gonna buy some :)
If these are genuine VAG then how come they aren't shipping on golfs now?
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i dont think will be genuine VW. If tthey were then why are thye not on any new golf?
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you are of course right and I did ask him for the part numbers last week and he was cagey. I have re emailed and asked the the vw part numbers, see what he comes back with?
maybe they are in fact like these?:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-5-V-R32-MK5-GTI-LED-Tail-Light-Lamp-06-08-GLF03_W0QQitemZ280175340043QQihZ018QQcategoryZ72248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
i dont think will be genuine VW. If tthey were then why are thye not on any new golf?
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you are of course right and I did ask him for the part numbers last week and he was cagey. I have re emailed and asked the the vw part numbers, see what he comes back with?
maybe they are in fact like these?:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-5-V-R32-MK5-GTI-LED-Tail-Light-Lamp-06-08-GLF03_W0QQitemZ280175340043QQihZ018QQcategoryZ72248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
i dont think will be genuine VW. If tthey were then why are thye not on any new golf?
....Those eBay ones are American - Note the fog lens being on lefthand not righthand.
If this VWSpeed dealer is being cagey, it's not a good sign. And why no pic? I won't buy without sight of goods. I'm gonna phone tomorrow too.
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just found this on the web
http://www.bubbleshare.com/album/253405/overview#9166038
they might call them OEM on the pics, but in fact looks like they are made by someone called IN PRO
http://www.parts4euro.com/cgi-bin/PPStore/ppstore.cgi?database=Products&action=view_product&productID=20045&category=8
it says no VAG COM programming required, but that may just be for US cars.
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fair dos Robin....
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I'm glad my topic has gained some momentum / enthusiasm, but I agree, lets no muck about with a group buy, too much hassle, for I can imagine is a small reduction.
Let just confirm that they are genuine VW, which he assures me they are and they don't throw up fault codes!
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No group buy demand then? The VAG com lead were cheaper... but I can see where you are coming from. We'd probably only get £10-20 off if that. Unless me, Robin and Teddy do our own 'bulk buy' and get 99p off :grin: :grin: :grin:
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I'm glad my topic has gained some momentum / enthusiasm, but I agree, lets no muck about with a group buy, too much hassle, for I can imagine is a small reduction.
Let just confirm that they are genuine VW, which he assures me they are and they don't throw up fault codes!
:nerd:
No group buy demand then? The VAG com lead were cheaper... but I can see where you are coming from. We'd probably only get £10-20 off if that. Unless me, Robin and Teddy do our own 'bulk buy' and get 99p off :grin: :grin: :grin:
....IF there had been more interest in a group buy and IF the product without pic is genuine, the £250 asking price seems reasonable anyway. :cool:
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after two emails, he gave me this part number: 1K0 052 204
after a google search, this part number comes up as being posted year ago on various sites, so they must be the US ones?
anyone want to check this?
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That part number matches the ones available from Fischer Motorsport
http://www.fischermotorsport.de/Volkswagen/VW-Golf-Mk5-VW-Jetta-Mk5/Lightning/OEM-LED-taillights-VW-Golf-Mk5-6.6338.html
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how can it be one part number for 4 separate parts? :nerd:
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Who knows. I'm sure the world of VAG parts works in wonderful ways :grin:
Both part numbers match so I'm confident enought to order a set.
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Yeah it works by carefully identifying every single part on the car by a unique number! So four separate plastic parts, will have four numbers.
Who knows. I'm sure the world of VAG parts works in wonderful ways :grin:
Both part numbers match so I'm confident enought to order a set.
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I thought we already knew that they were the US LHD ones, hence the reason why I was wondering if the fog / reverse light could be swapped.
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I thought we already knew that they were the US LHD ones, hence the reason why I was wondering if the fog / reverse light could be swapped.
....Yes, the fog / reverse lenses can be swopped [posted earlier].
What's confusing about all this are statements such as "genuine" and "original VW part", together with no pic from the UK retailer. I didn't have time to phone them yesterday but will try today.
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....Yes, the fog / reverse lenses can be swopped [posted earlier].
What's confusing about all this are statements such as "genuine" and "original VW part", together with no pic from the UK retailer. I didn't have time to phone them yesterday but will try today.
Could you post it up in another thread, this is something I'm definately interested in.
Thanks
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At last I managed to get through to Mike at VWSpeed (linked earlier). Had a long chat....Deffo an enthusiast, keen to help.
The product is exactly the same as I posted - In fact, someone lifted my photo and sent it to him!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LEDtails.jpg)
He's checking with others how we should program the car to accept these LED's. I'm going to contact the guy who's car I photo'd to see what he did and I'll report here in due course.
So, collectively, several of us are onto it! :smiley:
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well done red robin. we are still no closer as to working out why they are listed as OEM and genuine VW!?
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well done red robin. we are still no closer as to working out why they are listed as OEM and genuine VW!?
....Okay - They are called "genuine" and "OEM" because they are manufactured for VAG/VW but not necessarily used on the factory production line. A number of such components are manufactured to be available to VW for various world markets; These markets differ. They have genuine VW part numbers etc but a UK dealer won't have it on their system so I'm told.
I've now sent a message to the Steel Grey owner.
Between us all we'll get there! :cool:
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well done, many thanks!
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*lifted from the vortex thread I posted earlier*
(Ignore first bit, we already have the 4 wires. US cars have 3 and have to add a wire to the unit.)
VAG-Com Instructions
Once you have connected wires to all four pins and reinstalled the connectors into the taillight housing you are ready to recode your central electronics module. This coding appears all over the Jetta LED threads, so I don't know who to credit for this information. Using a VAG-Com, you need to make the following changes to the Central Electronics Module (09).
Change Bytes 9 through 13 from 14 00 00 00 14 to 0A 00 00 0F 00
Change Byte 18 by unchecking the cold diagnostic bits 1, 3 and 5
Change Byte 19 by unchecking the cold diagnostics bits 2 and 3
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well done red robin. we are still no closer as to working out why they are listed as OEM and genuine VW!?
....Okay - They are called "genuine" and "OEM" because they are manufactured for VAG/VW but not necessarily used on the factory production line. A number of such components are manufactured to be available to VW for various world markets; These markets differ. They have genuine VW part numbers etc but a UK dealer won't have it on their system so I'm told.
I've now sent a message to the Steel Grey owner.
Between us all we'll get there! :cool:
Thanks for the info Robin.. I kept getting an answering machine when I tried ringing VW Speed over the weekend...
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fact, someone lifted my photo and sent it to him!
That might have been me - I posted an enquiry over on ukmkiv's suppliers board in the hope someone might know about it :embarassed:
Thanks for chasing RR :smiley: it is appreciated
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*lifted from the vortex thread I posted earlier*
(Ignore first bit, we already have the 4 wires. US cars have 3 and have to add a wire to the unit.)
VAG-Com Instructions
Once you have connected wires to all four pins and reinstalled the connectors into the taillight housing you are ready to recode your central electronics module. This coding appears all over the Jetta LED threads, so I don't know who to credit for this information. Using a VAG-Com, you need to make the following changes to the Central Electronics Module (09).
Change Bytes 9 through 13 from 14 00 00 00 14 to 0A 00 00 0F 00
Change Byte 18 by unchecking the cold diagnostic bits 1, 3 and 5
Change Byte 19 by unchecking the cold diagnostics bits 2 and 3
....Am I right in thinking that VW dealers have VAG-Com?
Good info :smiley:
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VAG COM is an after market application. VW dealers have their own system but i've heard that it's not as user friendly as VAG COM.
I've got a fully regged copy and have dabbled with a few things on there but I wouldn't call myself an advanced user. I understand the procedure above though.
Apparently, the lights will work fine without this procedure but you will get fast blinking indicators and error messages on the FIS stating that bulbs are out.
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These lights are actually manufactured by Valeo for Volkswagen (and possibly In-Pro) and are part of the Cibie Tuning range. They are sold by VW in Europe as a conversion set, hence the single part number. Although available in LHD only, I believe from what I've read on VWVortex that it's relatively easy to open up the lamps and swap over the fog and reverse lamp lenses.
http://www.cibie-tuning.com/ (http://www.cibie-tuning.com/) click in "Gamme Tuning" and scroll down to the bottom of the page
http://www.in-pro.de/ (http://www.in-pro.de/) click on "Design" then "Ruckleuchten" then "Volkswagen"
Hope this helps.
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so has anyone brought these yet and fitted them successfully?
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No, lol :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
I am still confused as to this fog light issue and if everything will work as it should. When I get concrete unambigous confirmation that this is the case then I will go and get a pair.
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LATEST NEWS!!
Fitting them is eeeeeeasy!
A friend has posted a how-to (for UK RHD cars) on another forum and I know him personally and have total faith in him:
Half hour with cutting knife then hot glue gun.
Cut the plastic sealing tabs off.
Lift out the lenses.
Cut the inner tabs down.
Swap the lenses over (you might have to dremell the alignment holes).
Seal where the plastic sealing tabs were with the hot glue gun.
Reassemble.
No VAG or tricky electrics needed!
Mine should be with me by ParcelForce this week from VW Speed, Norwich http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_Genuine_LED_Rear_Lights-2220-241.html (http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/vw-parts/Mk5_Golf_Genuine_LED_Rear_Lights-2220-241.html) £249 including VAT and UK mainland shipping. I'll post pics in due course.
Apart from appearance (some say bling but I think these are like the Passat lights and I've seen a few fitted on the GTI and they look fine IMO, LED's respond quicker and visibility is much sharper and therefore safer. The standard rears on the Mk5 Golf are not good in this respect (turn indicator with brake lights is poorly separated).
If you want to see what they look like on various GTI colours, check out this US thread (which does include some bling!): http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24549 (http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24549)
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hum, im not sureeeeeeee
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hum, im not sureeeeeeee
....Not sure of what? - Whether they'll work? (they do!!) or whether you like them?
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wether i like them or not, and i defo dont wanna be cutting and sticking bits back together to get them RHD.. :-|
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I thought you HAD to recode using VAGCOM, otherwise the indicator flash was too quick compared to OEM?
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I thought you HAD to recode using VAGCOM, otherwise the indicator flash was too quick compared to OEM?
....I'll check with my friend later (he's not available right now when I phoned). His GTI had its first MOT this month and there were no problems as far as I know. I know he hasn't used VAGcom because I specifically asked. He's a highly qualified engineer and so I know he doesn't talk bollox.
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So, to update:
- We know it's easy to change the lenses over for righthand drive.
- We know that, being European, we don't need to add a 4th wire etc as the Americans have to (as in vortex threads) - We already have it.
- We think we (with UK/European cars) don't need to use VAGcom but I'll double check again with friend who has them fitted to his already.
- We think we won't get any bulb-out warnings but I'll also double check that.
It seems to me that we are very close to confirming all is easy. I hope so - I've just bought mine!!
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....Okay, I just double checked with friend Neo (highly qualified engineer who has fitted them on his GTI and doesn't talk bollox!):
- VAGcom is NOT needed on UK/European Mk5 Golfs.
- No bulb-out warning codes are activated because the routing remains the same and the appropriate plug-in connectors are supplied. The plug connectors need very firmly pushing in though.
So, for us UK owners it's very straightfoward.
RUMOUR is that these LED rear lights will appear on European, but not necessarily UK, 09 build GTI's (and R32's??) this summer.
I'll post and report further when installed.
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if anybody wants to sell there standard smoked lights after fitting thease ill be happy to purchase. :smiley: PM me if anybody wants to sell
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if anybody wants to sell there standard smoked lights after fitting thease ill be happy to purchase. :smiley: PM me if anybody wants to sell
....Just to clarify: You want standard SMOKED lights and not just standard lights? Same as currently on the Mk5 R32?
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if anybody wants to sell there standard smoked lights after fitting thease ill be happy to purchase. :smiley: PM me if anybody wants to sell
If you want smoked ED30 / R32 rear lights, this guy still has them for sale (as at time of this post) :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320209622517&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011
I have just spoken to him as I wanted the alloys....but was too late :angry: :undecided:
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....Re that fleeBay sale: Being broken up - Anyone for an Ed30 engine?
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Well, this time tomorrow (Thursday) I expect to be telling you that my LED rear clusters are fitted and working perfectly following an easy installation.
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Well, this time tomorrow (Thursday) I expect to be telling you that my LED rear clusters are fitted and working perfectly following an easy installation.
With pics of course :smiley:
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....Weather permitting :cool:.
Meanwhile here's a pic of someone else's red one with LED rears. I'll see if I can find you a silver one, Hurdy.
(http://www.tyresmoke.net/attachments/1284409-LEDrears.JPG)
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when I saw that pic you posted of the grey one I thought they looked cool, but on a red car they look a bit chav!
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when I saw that pic you posted of the grey one I thought they looked cool, but on a red car they look a bit chav!
....Thanks! :smiley: Mine is a 5-door Tornado Red Mk5 GTI :cool:
I think rear lights only look chav when the surrounds are bright reflective silver, but these LED's are the other way round. Do you think they look chavvy on a Passat?
My Milltek quads probably look chavvy to some people too :grin:
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maybe its perhaps as they look non OEM to the trained eye, that then leads it to perhaps look a bit chav, as its an obvious mod....prob look better in the flesh!
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maybe its perhaps as they look non OEM to the trained eye, that then leads it to perhaps look a bit chav, as its an obvious mod....prob look better in the flesh!
.... :smiley: Don't worry, we all like different things. I can see that in certain lights and from certain angles these LED's can look bling. But in the context of the whole car in the 'flesh' I'm confident they'll look fine. We don't know for certain but it's very likely that these rear LED clusters will appear on VW's production line for 09 builds for Europe, but probably not for the UK. The whole VW range has been getting updated lighting technology for months.
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maybe its perhaps as they look non OEM to the trained eye, that then leads it to perhaps look a bit chav, as its an obvious mod....prob look better in the flesh!
.... :smiley: Don't worry, we all like different things. I can see that in certain lights and from certain angles these LED's can look bling. But in the context of the whole car in the 'flesh' I'm confident they'll look fine. We don't know for certain but it's very likely that these rear LED clusters will appear on VW's production line for 09 builds for Europe, but probably not for the UK. The whole VW range has been getting updated lighting technology for months.
Hi RedRobin, What do you mean when you state The whole VW range has been getting updated lighting technology for months. I’m hoping to order a new Ed30 soon and I love the LED’s, I’d be gutted if they were imminent!
Cheers, Hotrod
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if anybody wants to sell there standard smoked lights after fitting thease ill be happy to purchase. :smiley: PM me if anybody wants to sell
....Just to clarify: You want standard SMOKED lights and not just standard lights? Same as currently on the Mk5 R32?
yea, i have a gti with the red lights. i want the same as on r32 and ed30 :wink:
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Hi RedRobin, What do you mean when you state The whole VW range has been getting updated lighting technology for months. I’m hoping to order a new Ed30 soon and I love the LED’s, I’d be gutted if they were imminent!
Cheers, Hotrod
....Hi Hotrod,
As new models have been rolling off VW's production lines, they have taken the opportunity to update technology - Rear LED's to Golf Plus and Passat as examples.
I've just come home after having mine fitted and also chatting to a friend at VW. I'll post some info and pics shortly....
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Hi RedRobin, What do you mean when you state The whole VW range has been getting updated lighting technology for months. I’m hoping to order a new Ed30 soon and I love the LED’s, I’d be gutted if they were imminent!
Cheers, Hotrod
....Hi Hotrod,
As new models have been rolling off VW's production lines, they have taken the opportunity to update technology - Rear LED's to Golf Plus and Passat as examples.
I've just come home after having mine fitted and also chatting to a friend at VW. I'll post some info and pics shortly....
Hi RedRobin,
I love those LEDs and WILL be getting a set on my new motor once I’ve decided on which model. I’ve read your previous threads. To recap... basically you need to transpose the red and white lenses and then it’s literally a plug & play fit!? Is it a DIY job? I am a bit of a perfectionist & would be gutted if I f••ked it up! I’m not without ability but on a new motor it would have to be fairly foolproof.
Great advice by the way! :smiley:
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Okay guys, here we go....
Label on the new LED unit - Made for VW by Valeo in Poland. Here's the indisputable evidence:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LED_part.jpg)
There was an accident repair happening on a Mk5 Golf TDI while I was there. This is how easy the plug connections are:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LED_Golfplug.jpg)
Here's my GTI with standard rear lights and fairly dirty. I lightly cleaned the boot lid area only for the sake of the guy working on it:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LED_Before.jpg)
And here's the finished installation but the guys had cleaned the whole car for me without being asked!
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LED_After.jpg)
No dremelling was needed and the lens swop over was easy I'm told. All nicely aligned and cost just under £30 including vat. Chatting to a friend who works at my VW dealer afterwards, he reckons that the 09 Golf builds will get these LED's.
Not really as bling as they sometimes look in photos but they are bright and look smart and very up to date imo.
:cool:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/JesusSaysModify.jpg)
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RedRobin,
LEDs look ace. Out of interest who fitted them for you?
They swopped the red fog/white reversing lenses for you... no damage or marks incurred?
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cool - looks good :wink:
one thing, is the speed of the indicator blink the same as OEM?
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RedRobin,
LEDs look ace. Out of interest who fitted them for you?
They swopped the red fog/white reversing lenses for you... no damage or marks incurred?
....My VW dealer has an affiliated award winning accident repair centre next door (Dorchester). I know the boss and that these guys take a pride in their work. They painted and fitted my carbon bonnet and I trust them. Okay, I haven't inspected inside the light units to see for marks but the outsides are perfect.
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cool - looks good :wink:
one thing, is the speed of the indicator blink the same as OEM?
...Blink speed seems the same but the indicator illumination is much bigger! - A good thing! LED's look very cool.
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I think they would look great if they came with a smoked cover effect... but hey thats just me being fussy!
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any chance of a video showing brake lights and indicator lighting up?
:-)
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I think they would look great if they came with a smoked cover effect... but hey thats just me being fussy!
....Fuss spot!! :grin:
My 'red bits' are called Cherry Red but I don't know if the R32 or Ed30 ones are 'smoked' or the same as mine.
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any chance of a video showing brake lights and indicator lighting up?
:-)
....You don't ask for much do you! :grin:
Here's the best I can do for ya: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3wgFu5-V9ao (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3wgFu5-V9ao)
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The one thing that video doe'snt show is the important one :rolleyes:
Braking and indicating together :smiley:
PS I know it's not your video RR , so I'm not blaming you !
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My worry is when swapping the lenses you need to make sure the unit is sealed properly otherwise you'll get misted up lights at some point.
I would have some but then lense swap does put me off.
Looking at the pic vwspeed show is this saying they offer the unit with the fog light in the correct location, i.e. ready to go ... naughty picture if not really.
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My worry is when swapping the lenses you need to make sure the unit is sealed properly otherwise you'll get misted up lights at some point.
I would have some but then lense swap does put me off.
Looking at the pic vwspeed show is this saying they offer the unit with the fog light in the correct location, i.e. ready to go ... naughty picture if not really.
....I'll investigate the sealing question later but having it done professionally by a workshop I trust and who are affiliated to my VW dealer, is why I paid them to do the job rather than myself. Worth the £30 (incl vat) imo.
That pic of the Steel Grey on the VWSpeed page is one that I took at the Oxford show and is of a UK car whose owner did the swop about 6 months ago. I'll point out the ambiguouity to VWSpeed. :cool:
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RedRobin,
LEDs look ace. Out of interest who fitted them for you?
They swopped the red fog/white reversing lenses for you... no damage or marks incurred?
....My VW dealer has an affiliated award winning accident repair centre next door (Dorchester). I know the boss and that these guys take a pride in their work. They painted and fitted my carbon bonnet and I trust them. Okay, I haven't inspected inside the light units to see for marks but the outsides are perfect.
Hi RedRobin,
Is that Loders in Dorchester? I use Breeze in Poole and have a good relationship with them. I’m chuffed it’s Dorchester (30 minutes away) as I’m defo getting the LEDs.
Good work there!
cheers, Hotrod
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I would prefer to buy them done really, like you say I am sure they have done a good job for you and I would pay someone to do my set (if I got some) it just would be nice to be able to buy them ready to go - nice and easy DIY fit :wink:
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i had some R32 tail gates put on my GTI. One of the lights did get condensation in it and VW replaced it udner warranty :wink:
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imo i prefer the smoked look like on ed30 and r32 :undecided:, looks good thow RR :smiley:
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I noticed yesterday that both my rear lights had condensation on the inside (the sections on the boot lid not the main lamp) - is this a problem? Its cleared now, worth me mentioning to my dealer when I take it for service?
Lights look mint by the way redrobin :drool: :cool:
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Hi RedRobin,
Is that Loders in Dorchester? I use Breeze in Poole and have a good relationship with them. I’m chuffed it’s Dorchester (30 minutes away) as I’m defo getting the LEDs.
Good work there!
cheers, Hotrod
....Yes, it's Loders Motor Group, Accident Repair Centre - I've just spoken to Mark Thompson 01305 755 455 and he's happy to do them for you. :smiley:
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I noticed yesterday that both my rear lights had condensation on the inside (the sections on the boot lid not the main lamp) - is this a problem? Its cleared now, worth me mentioning to my dealer when I take it for service?
Lights look mint by the way redrobin :drool: :cool:
....Def mention it to your VW dealer just so it's on record if it happens again. I had the same at first and only for a very short period.
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To anyone concerned about condensation after swopping the lenses on these new LED's....
I'm assured that the seals aren't broken in accessing the fog/reverse lenses. Instead of using a hot glue gun, my workshop guy used plastic welding to replace fixings.
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Hi RedRobin,
Is that Loders in Dorchester? I use Breeze in Poole and have a good relationship with them. I’m chuffed it’s Dorchester (30 minutes away) as I’m defo getting the LEDs.
Good work there!
cheers, Hotrod
Your a star... I’ll be in touch once my order is placed!
Cheers Buddy.
Hotrod (aka Steve)
....Yes, it's Loders Motor Group, Accident Repair Centre - I've just spoken to Mark Thompson 01305 755 455 and he's happy to do them for you. :smiley:
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From the pics it looks like the read section is slightly tinted like the R32 lights, is this correct.
I will be having a look this weekend to see if I can swap the lenses myself and then I may order a set just for the hell of it ;)
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From the pics it looks like the read section is slightly tinted like the R32 lights, is this correct?
....I'm assumimg you mean the red section, in which case it's called Cherry Red but I haven't made a close inspection of an R32 or Ed30 to compare accurately.
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From the pics it looks like the read section is slightly tinted like the R32 lights, is this correct?
....I'm assumimg you mean the red section, in which case it's called Cherry Red but I haven't made a close inspection of an R32 or Ed30 to compare accurately.
Yes the outside red plastic but, if you look at your before and after the edge red bit look more tinted like the R32 version, just the round light bit is different its its silver colour.
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No, but they are darker than the originals...........are they not?
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No, but they are darker than the originals...........are they not?
....Most definitely darker.
Someone in this thread was thinking of mixing them and I found this pic on an American forum (they do crazy mods!). I don't like it though.
(http://my.packetexport.com/ptudor-led-stock.jpg)
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I suppose the other way is to leave the R32 middle bits in until I have the lenses swapped over as they are the same tint as the R32 one's which is what I currently have.
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Here's a preferable mix, in my opinion, to the one I posted earlier:
You would have to already have the R32/Ed30 darker red parts.
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20316&stc=1&d=1201315371)
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Thats a pic I was after.
How long did they take from order and was it vwspeed you got yours?
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Here's a preferable mix, in my opinion, to the one I posted earlier:
You would have to already have the R32/Ed30 darker red parts.
(http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=20316&stc=1&d=1201315371)
I like the look of that a lot :smiley:
Can you confirm that the photo shows the LED outers combined with the original R32/ED30 inner lenses ? It looks such a good match ?
Presumably that would not need any fog light / reversing lens changes either ?
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I like the look of that a lot :smiley:
Can you confirm that the photo shows the LED outers combined with the original R32/ED30 inner lenses ? It looks such a good match ?
Presumably that would not need any fog light / reversing lens changes either ?
....It's not my car, it's Swiss LHD. But, I think it's fairly obvious and safe to say that it's new LED outers combined with Ed30/R32 inners and it matches.
And obviously no fog/reverse lenses swop either.
You would still have to buy the whole 'inner' and 'outer' LED paired set. Best would be VWSpeed in the UK.
I still prefer the whole set as LED, particularly as LED lighting is better.
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I like the look of that a lot :smiley:
Can you confirm that the photo shows the LED outers combined with the original R32/ED30 inner lenses ? It looks such a good match ?
Presumably that would not need any fog light / reversing lens changes either ?
....It's not my car, it's Swiss LHD. But, I think it's fairly obvious and safe to say that it's new LED outers combined with Ed30/R32 inners and it matches.
And obviously no fog/reverse lenses swop either.
You would still have to buy the whole 'inner' and 'outer' LED paired set. Best would be VWSpeed in the UK.
I still prefer the whole set as LED, particularly as LED lighting is better.
Hi RedRobin,
Great info as always! I really like the mix & match idea especially if the dark red matched the Ed30 originals. For your info I was in Breeze VW today and checked with the Parts manager about ordering the LEDs through them. It’s interesting that VW UK gave all their dealers an option last year to offer RHD LED tailights to British drivers. Sadly the majority of the dealerships turned down the idea, so it was dropped... on the continent you can order the LEDs as an extra-cost item. My guy was able to get the Valeo units up on his UK VW database but was unable to get a cost or order them as they were for LHD vehicles. So it nearly happened... shame because my dealer wanted to stock them!
Anyway very close to ordering ED30, just waiting for killer price from Sales Manager.
I’ll be in touch soon.
Cheers buddy... Hotrod
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....Very interesting info about the LED's at UK dealerships, hotrod :smiley:
Cheers,
Da Double R!! :cool:
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I like the look of that a lot :smiley:
Can you confirm that the photo shows the LED outers combined with the original R32/ED30 inner lenses ? It looks such a good match ?
Presumably that would not need any fog light / reversing lens changes either ?
....It's not my car, it's Swiss LHD. But, I think it's fairly obvious and safe to say that it's new LED outers combined with Ed30/R32 inners and it matches.
And obviously no fog/reverse lenses swop either.
You would still have to buy the whole 'inner' and 'outer' LED paired set. Best would be VWSpeed in the UK.
I still prefer the whole set as LED, particularly as LED lighting is better.
Hi guys, Can anyone tell me who manufacturers the OEM tailights on the ED30/R32. Is it Valeo, Hella..? Just checking that an exact match can be made with Valeo LED outers and factory stock inners (if that makes sense). I’m a bit of a perfectionist so it would have to be spot on!
Thoughts..? Hotrod.
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I still prefer the whole set as LED, particularly as LED lighting is better.
Are your Fogs & Reversing Lights definitely LED on your new lights RR?
i thought I read that these were still normal bulbs .... or maybe that was another make :rolleyes:
Here is the link :
http://www.fischermotorsport.de/Volkswagen/VW-Golf-Mk5-VW-Jetta-Mk5/Lightning/OEM-LED-taillights-VW-Golf-Mk5-6.6338.html
Are these the same as yours ?
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Anybody thought about ordering direct from Germany?
Look here:
http://www.ahw-shop.de/
Type in 1K0052204 in the search panel. They have OEM LED's for Euro 299 (about £222) + 15 euros carriage!
They also have OEM R32's for Euro 185 and loads of different parts and accessories for VW at very competitive prices!
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Hi guys, Can anyone tell me who manufacturers the OEM tailights on the ED30/R32. Is it Valeo, Hella..? Just checking that an exact match can be made with Valeo LED outers and factory stock inners (if that makes sense). I’m a bit of a perfectionist so it would have to be spot on!
Thoughts..? Hotrod.
....The stock (OEM) tails on my GTI are Valeo and also manufactured in Poland. I don't know about the Ed30/R32 but reading my Tyresmoke thread on the same LED subject, I think Snoopy said they are Valeo too - Needs checking.
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I still prefer the whole set as LED, particularly as LED lighting is better.
Are your Fogs & Reversing Lights definitely LED on your new lights RR?
i thought I read that these were still normal bulbs .... or maybe that was another make :rolleyes:
Here is the link :
http://www.fischermotorsport.de/Volkswagen/VW-Golf-Mk5-VW-Jetta-Mk5/Lightning/OEM-LED-taillights-VW-Golf-Mk5-6.6338.html
Are these the same as yours ?
....Yes, I believe you are right about the fog/reverse being bulb'd but their surrounds are LED.
Without inspecting one out of the box, I can't comment whether Fischer's are the same as mine (Valeo) but would expect they are.
Here's a closeup of mine:
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/LED_closeup1.jpg)
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Anybody thought about ordering direct from Germany?
Look here:
http://www.ahw-shop.de/
Type in 1K0052204 in the search panel. They have OEM LED's for Euro 299 (about £222) + 15 euros carriage!
....£222 + £11 carriage = £233 against £249 incl carriage and vat with fast ParcelForce delivery from VWSpeed in UK.
Would you have to pay vat on importing from Germany?
It's the same part number 1K0052204 as mine made by Valeo.
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Thanks RR
How's the "brake + indicate" looking with the new lights ? Big improvement over OEM ?
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hows the indicator speed on yours?
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Thanks RR
How's the "brake + indicate" looking with the new lights ? Big improvement over OEM ?
....I haven't had the opportunity to check that yet. It needs me to follow someone else driving my car or me to follow someone else with LED tails on a Mk5. Got a Tyresmoke meet coming up soon though and will be able to test because some of us know each other well enough to drive each other's cars.
:cool:
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hows the indicator speed on yours?
....Without being able to scientifically measure it, it appears to be the same but the effect is like on a more expensive car.
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RedRobon...............VAT is paid in Germany (included in the prices quoted) and there would be no extra taxes for importing to UK.
I live in France and the stealers here want over 400 euros for the exact same Valeo part, so I will be saving quite a bit!
I have a set on order which should be with me very soon! Seems like it may not be realy worthwhile for you guys in UK though...........unless you could negotiate a group discount with AHW-SHOP.
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I was disappointed to learn today after very close inspection, that the 'inner' silver'd surrounds to the fog and reversing lights are totally non-functional on the new LED units. The moulding allows for actual LED's but none are there. Nevertheless I am still very pleased with them. :smiley:
If you have either an Ed30 or Mk5 R32 with the darker red, you could just change the 'outers' to the new LED's and still keep it all matching.
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I was disappointed to learn today after very close inspection, that the 'inner' silver'd surrounds to the fog and reversing lights are totally non-functional on the new LED units. The moulding allows for actual LED's but none are there. Nevertheless I am still very pleased with them. :smiley:
If you have either an Ed30 or Mk5 R32 with the darker red, you could just change the 'outers' to the new LED's and still keep it all matching.
These dont do anything on the normal lights do they?
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I was disappointed to learn today after very close inspection, that the 'inner' silver'd surrounds to the fog and reversing lights are totally non-functional on the new LED units. The moulding allows for actual LED's but none are there. Nevertheless I am still very pleased with them. :smiley:
If you have either an Ed30 or Mk5 R32 with the darker red, you could just change the 'outers' to the new LED's and still keep it all matching.
These dont do anything on the normal lights do they?
....You're right, neg. I just didn't realise and assumed they were sidelights or something similar. The moulding is such that they could incorporate LED's though.
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I was disappointed to learn today after very close inspection, that the 'inner' silver'd surrounds to the fog and reversing lights are totally non-functional on the new LED units. The moulding allows for actual LED's but none are there. Nevertheless I am still very pleased with them. :smiley:
If you have either an Ed30 or Mk5 R32 with the darker red, you could just change the 'outers' to the new LED's and still keep it all matching.
It’s also the same on other VW models, I checked out in the showroom recently.
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Shame you can't just order the outside bits as this is all I would need and keep the R32 insides.
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Received my OEM LED's from Germany today (317 euros total). Fitted no problem at all in about 30 minutes............up and running..............superb!
So, for anyone interested here are the technical details of the LED's:
First of all, as already well documented: There are no LED's in the two inner units for fog and reversing lights. Normal bulbs only!
The outer units are composed of:
Outer Ring: 20 x Bi-Colour LED's (Red -Low Intensity/Amber - High Intensity)
Inner Ring: 15 x Bi-Intensity Red LED's. (High and Low Intensity)
So when side lights only are on we have all 35 LED's lit Red, low intensity.
Hitting the brake causes the 15 inner ring LED's to increase to high intensity.
The indicators cause the outer 20 LED's to flash high intensity amber and if the sidelights are on, to alternate between amber high intensity and red low intensity.
So, much safer than the original lights as the indicator display is much larger and easily seen when the brake lights are on!
LED's normally have a very long life. Be warned however, that the individual diodes are not replaceable so could mean the eventual replacement of the entire unit, should you be unlucky enough to loose several LED's. Says in the destructions from Valeo that if you loose one diode there is no problem, but if you loose 2 you will get the dashboard warning of lamp failure!
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Received my OEM LED's from Germany today (317 euros total). Fitted no problem at all in about 30 minutes............up and running..............superb!
So, for anyone interested here are the technical details of the LED's:
First of all, as already well documented: There are no LED's in the two inner units for fog and reversing lights. Normal bulbs only!
The outer units are composed of:
Outer Ring: 20 x Bi-Colour LED's (Red -Low Intensity/Amber - High Intensity)
Inner Ring: 15 x Bi-Intensity Red LED's. (High and Low Intensity)
So when side lights only are on we have all 35 LED's lit Red, low intensity.
Hitting the brake causes the 15 inner ring LED's to increase to high intensity.
The indicators cause the outer 20 LED's to flash high intensity amber and if the sidelights are on, to alternate between amber high intensity and red low intensity.
So, much safer than the original lights as the indicator display is much larger and easily seen when the brake lights are on!
LED's normally have a very long life. Be warned however, that the individual diodes are not replaceable so could mean the eventual replacement of the entire unit, should you be unlucky enough to loose several LED's. Says in the destructions from Valeo that if you loose one diode there is no problem, but if you loose 2 you will get the dashboard warning of lamp failure!
What’s the chance of seeing some pics? Sounds great!
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....Great info on the LED details, arletty :smiley:
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So has anyone fitted just the outers to an Ed30 yet?
I wanna see the colour match and how they sit.
If they look good, then there isn't any point swapping the inner lenses etc for fog/reverse.
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Hi Red Robin,
It’s been a while since you’ve had your LEDs fitted now. How are you getting along with them... any faults or queries. As you know my car’s on order with Elliott and I shall be fitting the LEDs as soon as possible after it arrives. It’s probable that I’ll keep the smoked ED30 inners and install the LED outers.
Just waiting for info from any owners out there, that they match up perfectly.
Watch this space!
Hotrod
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So has anyone fitted just the outers to an Ed30 yet?
I wanna see the colour match and how they sit.
If they look good, then there isn't any point swapping the inner lenses etc for fog/reverse.
....I'm sure I posted a pic of a silver Mk5 R32 with the mixed tail lights - In this thread methinks if you care to look through all 16 pages! :smiley:
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Hi Red Robin,
It’s been a while since you’ve had your LEDs fitted now. How are you getting along with them... any faults or queries. As you know my car’s on order with Elliott and I shall be fitting the LEDs as soon as possible after it arrives. It’s probable that I’ll keep the smoked ED30 inners and install the LED outers.
Just waiting for info from any owners out there, that they match up perfectly.
Watch this space!
Hotrod
Hi Hotrod!
....I'm enjoying my new LED's mostly because I find it reassuring to know how strong and effective my rear lights are. Although I'm disappointed that the 'inners' are less functional for their 'bling', I still like the overall look on my GTI. Afterall, the Xenons up front are pretty shiny! :cool:
It's only a matter of time before most cars have LED tails and my hunch is that summer build Mk5 Golfs will have them.
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you wanna bet. I think penny pinching VW will await for the Mk6 to put rear LED's on the golf. :rolleyes:
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So has anyone fitted just the outers to an Ed30 yet?
I wanna see the colour match and how they sit.
If they look good, then there isn't any point swapping the inner lenses etc for fog/reverse.
Hi CocoPops,
I’m hoping to fit just the outers to my Candy White ED30, when it arrives in a couple of weeks.
I checked out Red Robins lights over the weekend and they are awesome... I need some quick!
I’m assured that the colour matches perfectly... watch this space.
Cheers... Hotrod
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...I now want LED Daylight Driving Lights, Audi-style, on the front if I can make it look OEM.
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Boo-Hoo... they’re out of stock at the mo!
Hopefully get some soon.
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VW speed have some back in stock but only a few sets - price has gone up though !!
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VW speed have some back in stock but only a few sets - price has gone up though !!
Cheers neg, I’ve ordered a set... be here in 7-days... Hotrod
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VW speed have some back in stock but only a few sets - price has gone up though !!
Cheers neg, I’ve ordered a set... be here in 7-days... Hotrod
How much are they from the dealer hotrod?
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VW speed have some back in stock but only a few sets - price has gone up though !!
Cheers neg, I’ve ordered a set... be here in 7-days... Hotrod
How much are they from the dealer hotrod?
Hi Russ,
They’re now £279 (up £30) incl all taxes and UK carriage. Euro has gone up 8% + VW prices have increased by 4%. Mike at VW Speed ordered 5 sets. When I rang yesterday, 3 sets had gone. I’ve just ordered 1 set so there may be 1 remaining... best be quick, don’t know when Mike will be getting the next batch.
Cheers,
Hotrod
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....I'm pretty sure that before us lot started discussing and buying, VWSpeed had a fairly static stock.
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Here you go:
http://www.vwspeed.co.uk/volkswagen/parts/Electrical-241-1.html
The LED lights still show as out of stock...
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So has anyone else fitted them? Any pics?
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more importantly.....has any body fitted to n ed30/r32 and are they willing to sell me their old lights?? :smiley: :smiley: :wink:
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A more recent pic :-
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_rearLEDcf.jpg)
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Hmm i've looked at this and i really think those lights make the car look softer.
I much prefer the smoked R32 ones :undecided:
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A more recent pic :-
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_rearLEDcf.jpg)
Your 'rear end' :rolleyes: looks awesome now redrobin, first time I've seen a picture, hugh improvement over the old valance you had! Luvin it! :tongue:
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Your 'rear end' :rolleyes: looks awesome now redrobin, first time I've seen a picture, hugh improvement over the old valance you had! Luvin it! :tongue:
....Thanks, Russ! :smiley:
My rear end had its first public showing at Santa Pod last weekend (you may have already heard!). Back in the Summer of 2005, the old Abt rear was all that was available for quads when I had them. The R32 'spoiler' suits the GTI very well - It all looks less aftermarket.
I'm planning to get a carbonfibre rear VW boot badge.
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Your 'rear end' :rolleyes: looks awesome now redrobin, first time I've seen a picture, hugh improvement over the old valance you had! Luvin it! :tongue:
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....Thanks, Russ! :smiley:
My rear end had its first public showing at Santa Pod last weekend (you may have already heard!). Back in the Summer of 2005, the old Abt rear was all that was available for quads when I had them. The R32 'spoiler' suits the GTI very well - It all looks less aftermarket.
I'm planning to get a carbonfibre rear VW boot badge.
Yeah I had read it was getting its 'premiere' at Santa Pod, would have loved to have attended but had to attend a wedding planning session :sad: The rear badge will finish it off nicely :cool:
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robin, your car IS the sex!!!! :drool: :drool:
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robin, your car IS the sex!!!! :drool: :drool:
....I'm soooo glad you didn't write "robin, your rear end IS the sex!!!!" :shocked:
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Lovin the LED's RR. :cool:
Am I right in saying they are tinted like the R32/ED30?
Followed a Golf plus today and the LED's looked so cool (shame about the rest of the car, what a waste!)
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more importantly.....has any body fitted to n ed30/r32 and are they willing to sell me their old lights?? :smiley: :smiley: :wink:
I'm after a pair of the smoked ED30/R32 rears myself...!
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more importantly.....has any body fitted to n ed30/r32 and are they willing to sell me their old lights?? :smiley: :smiley: :wink:
I'm after a pair of the smoked ED30/R32 rears myself...!
If/when I get some LED's im only going to change the outers im afraid :smiley:
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If/when I get some LED's im only going to change the outers im afraid :smiley:
....Quite a few people would prefer to do that but the inner and outer units only match if you have Ed30/R32 darker red tints. My stock ones were the lighter red tint. I'm not at all unhappy though.
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If you have just the outers fitted, can you get away without any re-wiring/vag com?
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Yep - 10 minute job :smiley:
Ahem! (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=515.msg6903#msg6903)
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All, apologies for bringing this thread back to life. Appreciate that you have done a lot of work to get to this point. I want to ask RedRobin specifically, following all the links on the thread, the Valeo lights on the recommended German only website (http://www.ahw-shop.de/), 299 Euro etc. Did you have to get involved in re-programming the management system to accept the lights or was it literally plug and play? I love the look of those on your GTI, my preference i think be to follow some and just replacing the outers. Again appreciate any assistance, the thread has got me to the point of the mouse hovering over purchase and i just wanted to ask. :-)
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Deffo plug and play - especially if like me you're only going to fit the outers :wink:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3248/3113007380_49ae204582.jpg?v=0)
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Hi guys,
No need to do any VAS or other programming for the UK. You just have to make sure that fog lens is on driver's side and reversing lens on passenger side. A RHD car is already wired that way so it's just a matter of swopping lenses IF your new rear lights come from a LHD car market.
I got mine via VWSpeed - Very quick service if they have stock.
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Hi guys,
No need to do any VAS or other programming for the UK. You just have to make sure that fog lens is on driver's side and reversing lens on passenger side. A RHD car is already wired that way so it's just a matter of swopping lenses IF your new rear lights come from a LHD car market.
I got mine via VWSpeed - Very quick service if they have stock.
They aint listed on VW Speed any more! :undecided:
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I got mine via VWSpeed - Very quick service if they have stock.
They aint listed on VW Speed any more! :undecided:
....It's probably worth giving the guy (Mike?) a phone call to see if he can still get them - He only kept small stocks.
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I got mine via VWSpeed - Very quick service if they have stock.
They aint listed on VW Speed any more! :undecided:
....It's probably worth giving the guy (Mike?) a phone call to see if he can still get them - He only kept small stocks.
OK, thanks - will try next week if I ain't feeling too grumpy! :smiley:
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I braved the German site and appear to have won...i got a e-mail saying they they are on there way...we will see....Thanks for all the assistance. I will post photos once fitted. Have a good weekend all.
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In my experience the Germans are extremely efficient and good at getting you stuff once you can communicate.
Hella UK were totally useless but Hella Germany were amazing and also gave me a huge discount on my LED DRL's.
I think I'm the first and one and only Mk5 GTI to have them in the UK.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_DRLsPortchester.jpg)
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RedRobin, great pic. I am only slightly concerned by the site saying they didnt ship to islands outside of Germany....
A slight aside, have you looked into L.E.D Xenon sidelights? Would be interested to hear thoughts on that...i know i should probably start another thread :embarassed:
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"islands outside Germany" sounds like a language translation hiccup. I think you'll find that as we are all Euro Common Market countries it'll be alright.
As my LED Daylight Running Lights are wired to be permanently on except when any of the other lights are on (switched or automatically), I very rarely use my sidelights. My headlights are proper oem Xenons as fitted in Wolfsburg. So I'm personally not specially interested in "LED Xenon sidelights" and haven't heard of them.
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Robin - who is that driving your car... looks like a famous comedian :wink:
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Robin - who is that driving your car... looks like a famous comedian :wink:
....Do tell me which famous comedian so I can tell him! :evil:
He's a friend who drives a much modified Mk5 R32. We occasionally drive each other's cars.
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My LED rears came from Mike at VW Speed, I've used VW Speed several times and found them very helpful.
The LED's were on 'back order' - so I had to wait a few weeks - they are significantly more visible - especially when braking and indicating at the same time.
Not cheap but I did sell on the 'LED' inners to offset some of the cost.
HTH
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I can't believe a thread I started 14 months ago is still going, and I still haven't got round to buying them! :laugh:
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I can't believe a thread I started 14 months ago is still going, and I still haven't got round to buying them! :laugh:
I quite like these long threads :afro: - at least it stops the section index page from clogging up with the same question repeated time and time again. :smug:
So, question for the day, which is the longest, timewise active thread on the forum? :nerd:
And just to keep the thread on topic :tongue: yup, I still want some of these too!
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Robin - who is that driving your car... looks like a famous comedian :wink:
....Do tell me which famous comedian so I can tell him! :evil:
He's a friend who drives a much modified Mk5 R32. We occasionally drive each other's cars.
Its the smile of Alan Partridge from the outline you can see :grin:
(http://www.melissakirsch.com/blog/wp-content/alan_partridge.jpg)
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Hi can anyone help me locate a retailer selling the OEM LED lights? I have tried VWSpeed, but they don't appear to have any at the moment and are unsure of when they will get some more. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks :smiley:
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Unfortunately VWSpeed was the best contact but I understand he's hit by the exchange rates. You could ask him for a source in Germany.
I hope I never need to replace mine!
Valeo are the manufacturer if it helps.
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Hi Red Robin,
Thanks for your response. I have managed to track down someone from a friend that can get the lights from Germany so hopefully I should have them by Friday :grin:
Quick question for you, was swapping the inner fog and reverse lenses as straight forward as this site make out it to be? http://www.golfmk5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1239442 ?
Also wanted your advise on my thoughts on not swapping the red lens for the fog lamp, but just getting rid of it and buying a chrome/red bulb that lights up red (thus not relying on a red lens). This way aesthetically from the outside the two lights look the same. Any thoughts or is this not possible?
Thanks for your help. :smiley:
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Glad you managed to find some!
Yes, swopping lenses is simple. Best to use 'plastic weld' but hot glue will do.
I doubt if you'd get through MOT and it might even be illegal not to have an approved red lens - So, it's up to you but I certainly wouldn't doing as you suggest.
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FenDub, can you let me know a European source for these rear LED's please?
PM me if you prefer.
Thanks,
Robin :afro:
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Hi Robin, Sorry a bit new to this forum stuff. How do i PM you? Sorry for the daft question i'm sure in advance?
Thanks.
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You need to get your post count to be more than 10 and then you can PM me, or me to you.
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Hi Robin, the source is unsure of whether he wants to start supplying to the general public. I managed to track this person down via a friend that uses him to get genuine VAG parts from Germany. He's debating on whether to sell them at the moment as their is not much of a margin in it for him due to the weak pound to euro rate. However, if he does sell them he will start to do so on ebay.
I should be picking up my lights from him this weekend so hopefully have them fitted in the next week or so.
BTW I checked out the situation with the red lens for the fog light. My local mechanic/MOT test centre advised me as long as when the fog light is switched on, it lights up red then there is no issues and the car will pass the MOT :smiley:
So I am going to try and see if I can get away with just removing the red lens from the fog light and purchase a red chrome bulb that I have seen on ebay. Fingers crossed it works :grin:
Fen
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Hi all,
The lights are on ebay now.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vw-Golf-MK5-MKV-rear-LED-lights-Lamp-Gti-R32-R-line-2-0_W0QQitemZ180343238008QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item180343238008&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Fen
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Must admit they do look good. :smiley: