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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Pintman on 17 November 2007, 19:16

Title: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Pintman on 17 November 2007, 19:16
Well, after reading many websites regarding rusty wheel hubs and after 18 months ownership of the GTi, I thought something had to be done about the state of the surfaces.  It didn't look right when after spending hours cleaning her, the thing that stuck out like a sore thumb was rusty wheel hubs.

After a visit to the local store and getting some Hammerite smooth, together with some 600 grit paper and a wire brush, I started. 
After eventually getting the wheel off with a few trusty hits with a rubber hammer after the wheel had 'welded' onto the hubs, this is what was found;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/2.jpg)

And looking at the inside of the wheel and the nuts;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/4.jpg)
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/3.jpg)

So first of all it was down to rubbing down the hubs to get smooth the surface and get rid of some of the rust;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/5.jpg)

Onto the hammerite.  Trying to keep the brush marks down to a minimum;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/6.jpg)

Then a small amount of copper paste;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/8.jpg)

So hubs sorted out, it was time to have a go with the nuts.  After a brush and copper paste applied;

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/7.jpg)

So after cleaning the wheels while waiting for the paint to dry, once put back on, I think it looks much better. 

(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m183/pintman/9.jpg)

It took most of the day cleaning all four hubs and wheels, but I'm gald I did it as it looks much better.

Your comments would be appreciated.   :wink:
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: SteveS on 17 November 2007, 19:19
much better!
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: john_o on 17 November 2007, 21:14
superb job  :smiley:
personally I have always used black , and I reckon it would show off your Monzas better
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Paul H on 17 November 2007, 21:41
Very new to the site and it's great, picked up my new GTi today and first job was a light smear of grease on the hubs to stop them going rusty hopefully - careful not to go too mad with it or get it on th disc :wink:

Looks a good job you've done and really smartens up the hubs.

Just a word of caution on putting coppaslip on the bolts - there's lots of mixed opinions, but my view would be, unless the manufacturer recommended it don't do it - when you torque up the bolts to the required setting the stretch may be greater than the tolerence of the bolts with the coppaslip.

Definately a bit smeared between the mating faces of the wheel and the hub though

A google search will give you a few differing opinions as well as the very technical answer :undecided:
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Hurdy on 17 November 2007, 22:41
Excellent job :cool:

I agree with Paul about the copperslip on the bolts though.

In 18 months time you can come round and do mine :wink:
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Cass on 17 November 2007, 23:32
Good job, guess I'll be doing the same :wink:

Cass
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Pintman on 18 November 2007, 08:46
Just a word of caution on putting coppaslip on the bolts - there's lots of mixed opinions, but my view would be, unless the manufacturer recommended it don't do it - when you torque up the bolts to the required setting the stretch may be greater than the tolerence of the bolts with the coppaslip.


I had looked through a few websites and was recommended by a friend to use copper grease.  I suppose thinking back, anywhere I saw corrosion I put a bit of grease to help 'repell' the onset.  Think I'll keep an eye on the nuts and make sure that they are set to the correct torque values.

Thanks
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: TagnuT on 18 November 2007, 09:03
I painted mine a month or so ago. Not what you expect on a new car.  :embarassed:

But after a coat of paint they look much better.  :smiley: Also a quick smear of "Copaslip®
Copaslip® (often misspelled as copperslip or coppaslip) - the original anti-seize compound. It is a very high temperature (up to 1100°C) anti-seize assembly compound, bentone based non-melt grease with copper, polybutene, and anti-corrosion additives."

I was in two minds to put some on the bolts, but didn't. Glad I didn't now.
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: BradHarris on 18 November 2007, 10:50
Did mine as well last week. Car is 8 months old and they were not as bad as those. If you do them before they get bad, its an easy and quick job. Does look better but not sure how long they will last. Anyone had the Hammerite on for any period of time ?
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: RedRobin on 18 November 2007, 16:28
....Great original post :smiley: - Very useful.

I'm afraid I solved my rusty wheel hub problem the expensive way! But I got the bonus of awesome non-fading braking power! :grin:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake1.jpg)

Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: TagnuT on 18 November 2007, 16:37
....Great original post :smiley: - Very useful.

I'm afraid I solved my rusty wheel hub problem the expensive way! But I got the bonus of awesome non-fading braking power! :grin:




Ahhhh.........I wish  :wink:
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Mr Lees on 19 November 2007, 08:06
not coverd under warranty?? mine is only 10 months old and already rusting!, was going to get the dealer to sort out on 1st service , no point?
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Pintman on 19 November 2007, 16:22
not coverd under warranty?? mine is only 10 months old and already rusting!, was going to get the dealer to sort out on 1st service , no point?

Reading through a few forums, I think there was only one guy/ gal who managed to get theres repaired under warranty.  When I picked up the car it was approx. 6months and had already started rusting.  Was told by the manager that this was usual and was not covered.  No doubt if you do a search on here, you find other information.
As to getting yours sorted at the dealers on your 1st service, good luck. Might as well try! :wink:
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: wolfbane1967 on 19 November 2007, 20:40
....Great original post :smiley: - Very useful.

I'm afraid I solved my rusty wheel hub problem the expensive way! But I got the bonus of awesome non-fading braking power! :grin:

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake1.jpg)




That is nice brakes,more pics please
Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: RedRobin on 19 November 2007, 22:42
That is nice brakes,more pics please

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_BB.jpg)

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/AP_Brake3.jpg)




Title: Re: Rusty wheel hubs - Hopefully sorted!!
Post by: Paul H on 20 November 2007, 09:23
The APR set up looks fantastic and I can vouch for their performance having fitted them to my Westfield a couple of years back - truly awesome when you're workin em :evil:

Just back to the copaslip on the bolts issue - I was reading through the handbook last night (sad I know) and here's what the manufacturer says on page 80 of booklet 3.2, I quote "The wheel bolts and threads in the wheel hubs must never be greased or oiled. They could otherwise loosen whilst the vehicle is in motion, even if the required torque setting is used. Risk of accident!".

BTW the required torque setting is 120nm - and dont use a cheap torque wrench they're not accurate, borrow a mates expensive one or take it to a good quality garage that you know you can trust or lash out for a good wrench :lipsrsealed:

Paul