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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: tailor_mike on 13 November 2007, 21:56
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Hi ppl, Just buying myself either a 1.8 20v or 2.0 golf gti mark 4,prob be a 1999 or 2000 model.
Not really clued up on the engines/performace etc...
Just wanted some info from you guys on what seems best?
It only a cheapish high mileage one i am after for a daily runner, so really wanted the most reliable i can get, so dont want a turbo model, just a n/a model.
Cant bear seeing my boxster getting dirty over winter, but still want to stick with a german motor! :grin:
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Welcome mate :smiley:
1.8 has 10bhp more along with 8 more valves and on paper i think returns better MPG :undecided:
few of the lads on here have the 2.0 and have had few problems with them; they'll be along to champion it shortly!!
in the meantime have you considered a diesel :afro: :grin: :grin:
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1.8 20v all the way :wink: The diesels ARE very good. (If you like that sort of thing!) :grin: :grin:
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I have never driven a N/A 20v but own a 2.0 and 1.8T. I dont think 1.8T's suffer from reliability issue's anymore than the N/A cars as they run at low boost pressures in standard form. I would say just bite the bullet and go for the Turbo. Mines got 95,000 on it now and drives much, much better that our 2.0 with 40k on it. (and i'm pretty sure the 20V cars are better on fuel)
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get yourself a GT TDI 115 which is as quick as the 2.0 8v and .4 slower than the 1.8 20v but double the economy
or the GT TDI 130 which will beat both of those petrol GTI's or if you want to splash the cash GT TDI 150 which will happily keep up with the 1.8T 150
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All the TDI's are pretty pricey though - especially the 150 bhp one. Better chance of finding cheaper petrol ones, which will offset the fuel saving of the TDI
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thx for the info ppl :)
Not after a tdi, as had one last year and turbo fecked up on it, and caused me pure ball ache, so not to keen on getting another one, was a 130 bhp model and did fly when working!
Also just not keen on getting a 1.8 turbo as my friend had one and it took him ages to sell it and only got same sort of money the N/A's are going for.
So really stuck between the 1.8 and 2.0, emmmmmm......... dunno
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Not after a tdi, as had one last year and turbo fecked up on it, and caused me pure ball ache, so not to keen on getting another one, was a 130 bhp model and did fly when working!
fair enough, always worth tying to convert another one to the dark dump.
regarding your GTI's there really isn't much init, and i'd expect you'll find it easier to find a 2.0 8v as the 1.8 wasn't out for that long. The 1.8 is the better engine but i think you might pay slightly more due to it being harder to find and "faster"
given the choice i'd go for the 1.8
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so other than the 1.8T a GT-TDI 130 will keep up with or beat all the GTI's?
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so other than the 1.8T a GT-TDI 130 will keep up with or beat all the GTI's?
yeah baby :cool:
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awesome :grin:
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i had a gt tdi 130 and it went like feck!
it defo had not much in it between that and the 1.8 turbo model, plus with the extra torque from the gt tdi it felt even quicker!, would like another one but dont fancy one with over 150k :( last one i had, had done 90k and the turbo went :( , dont fancy forkin out for a turbo again.
But the derv's are defo a consideration and at 50mpg, its a good plus point! :grin:
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lol don't scare me with stories like that!! mines coming up to 79K......
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Great I just brought a 2.0 GTI but hey it's only for me and the missue to runaround in. I have the mk2 track car for fundays
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I got a 2.0 and the performance wasnt what I expected, but its not slow (obviusly). It also nice and comy and solid (like any other MK4).
As others have said there really isnt much in it between the 2 N/A lumps. Id say if you can try and get the 1.8 but if a nice 2.0 come along then go for that. What ever takes your fancy really. Id bracket both N/A lumps in the same band so doesnt really matter what one you get. Thats my take anyway.
The TDi's a 1.8Ts are in a diffrent bracket I'd say (faster).
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The 2.0 115's also have they're own automatic oil change system!! The lump gulps it down quick-time & you keep topping it up, LOL :tongue:
If you can find a 1.8 125, buy that - It's a much more modern engine. More power, more mpg, less Co2 etc. :wink:
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less Co2 etc. :wink:
BOO !!
Its freezing in this country, its up to us to make it warmer !
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Thx for the info ppl,
Ended up with a w reg silver 3 door 2.0 litre one :)
still nothing really fast, but still does the job as a good daily runner.
its done 110,000 miles and is not far off new inside and out.
Has full VW history and came with a nice set of 18" Rs8's so couldnt really turn it down.
Just going to swap the wheels and put a set of 19" Rs6's on it next week.
And maybe a sports back box just to give it a bit more of a sound to the 2.0 litre lump !
And the daily drive is complete :grin:
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Good man ! :)
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Thx for the info ppl,
Ended up with a w reg silver 3 door 2.0 litre one :)
still nothing really fast, but still does the job as a good daily runner.
its done 110,000 miles and is not far off new inside and out.
Has full VW history and came with a nice set of 18" Rs8's so couldnt really turn it down.
Just going to swap the wheels and put a set of 19" Rs6's on it next week.
And maybe a sports back box just to give it a bit more of a sound to the 2.0 litre lump !
And the daily drive is complete :grin:
Ive got exactly the same spec, W reg 2.0. Got mine with 95k on it around 3mnths ago. Let me know if its right that im getting an average of 300 miles per tank....a huge amount but ive heard its a guzzla so its probably about right.
Also keep it well oiled and id let it warm up for around 5-7mins before driving in the cold weather as it massivley affects the mpg rate
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Oh yeah, well reminded about the oil, the 2.0 has a bit of a thing for oil, keep her topped up.
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tend to go threw it like the diesels do ???
was surprised about the mpg, only tend to put 20's in at a time (tight b*stard)
put a tenner in her couple of days ago and only got 35 mile!
gutted:(
but to be honest i have been driving it a little hard, as its a new toy:)
cant believe the engine being cold matters, but ill take your word for it, give it a try as 35 to a tenner seems well crap, my boxster does at least 50+
whats a full tank come in at nowadays price wise ???
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Engine being cold has really affected my MPG. I don't take it over 2500 rpm until its a 90 anyway.
Yeah, its not the best for town driving, i struggle to get decent MPG while driving in town with traffic etc. Motorway run and sensible-ish driving will give me 32-35 which is fine by me.
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Like aland says the mpg is really bad when the engine is cold. I think 34mpg is quoted as the average, and is actually bang on what mine is since the last time I reset it.
Just another note to keep an eye on the oil. Mine seems to need filling up every 6 weeks or so and I don't do a huge amount of miles in that time. Before I noticed how much it used I had the Oil Warning message come up and the car ran like crap for a week after.
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tend to go threw it like the diesels do ???
was surprised about the mpg, only tend to put 20's in at a time (tight b*stard)
put a tenner in her couple of days ago and only got 35 mile!
gutted:(
but to be honest i have been driving it a little hard, as its a new toy:)
cant believe the engine being cold matters, but ill take your word for it, give it a try as 35 to a tenner seems well crap, my boxster does at least 50+
whats a full tank come in at nowadays price wise ???
Costs about 50 or just under for Vpower and around 45 for normal fuel. I was using Vpower till i found this forum and was told its pretty pointless using it every week.
35miles for a tenna is ridiculous and i know what you mean about you just getting it and 'testing' the car in the first week or so. What i did was waited till the testing period was over and when i was driving it like normal then i was seeing how much it was consuming.
Also the 300 or less i was getting was before i was letting her warm up properly, ive started that this week so ill see if it gets any better
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Yeh, hopefully should be gettting around 50 to a tenner when i chill out with that right foot of mine :cool:
just thought id post some pics of my new ride, took them this morning before work and its not been cleaned yet, but you get the picture.
Will be cleaning and polishing it this sunday :grin:
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/sub_mike/GolfGtiSilver001_edited.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/sub_mike/GolfGtiSilver003_edited.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/sub_mike/GolfGtiSilver004_edited.jpg)
Heres my Weekend toy, another German ride :)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/sub_mike/porscheboxsternewnew010.jpg)
(http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o28/sub_mike/porscheboxsternewnew008.jpg)
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Looking good, not a huge fan of them wheels, just so common and I'm bored of them now. You said your changing them though argent you?
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yeh, me either m8.
look a bit too bling for me, alright on the black coloured golfs but not anything else :(
going for a set of 19" RS6's, i know there still a bit common, but not really after modifying too heavy.
got to think come re sale time what other ppl may like.
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get a little more pwr if ya remove the throttlebody coolant line....
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is that true? Never heard of that? Is it just true of the na'd ones?