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General => Car audio => Topic started by: gribsymk3 on 09 November 2007, 13:25
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Im installing a new system in my mk3, any opinions or advice welcome
Head unit: Alpine DVA-9861
Components 2 front 2 rear: Rainbow SLC265 100w RMS
Amp for speakers: Alpine MRP-F550 4 Channel 90w RMS
Sub: Alpine Type R 1242D 500w RMS
Amp for sub: Alpine mono MRPM650 600w RMS
Sub box: Alpine ported RS12V
What do you think this will sound like opinions appreciated!
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Its not the kit but how its fitted that decides how it will sound but if you do a good job and use a bit of well placed sound proofing it should sound rather nice, good luck with the install :smiley:
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Cheers mate, got any advice on the soundproofing
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Inside the doors behind the speaker pods and you could do the floor of the boot, realy the only limit is your time and money !
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That's all fine kit you're using - the only thing I'd do is ditch the rear comps - you will save time, money and improve the sound.
Good luck with the install, and get some pics up when you're done.
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rainbows are a great choice... i have them in my mk3... you won't need components in the rear though... especially if you are running them through an amp... you will end up with a very high pitched little speaker in your ear and it will take over everything else... trust me... you won't need it. I have only components in the front and it is all you need.
good luck with the install... if you can upgrade to something a little more than the alpine sub.
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do you really not think ill need the comps in the rear? will it still be as loud without??
whats wrong with the type R sub? can you recommend a better one
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I promise you it WILL be loud enough with one set of comps. Solid installation of the mids, and some good deadening is the way to go.
I've never heard an alpine type r, the box you put it in is what can really make the difference.
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ive been told the best box for it is the alpine ported box, apparently its the proper box for that sub, what do i need to do for sound deadening, where do i need it? also do i just take off the door card and put it all in the door??
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Alpine Type R subs aren't too cracking I had one for about 3 weeks and swapped it for a JBL as it just didn't seem loud enough (worked in a car audio shop) the JBL beat the Alpine into the ground it rocked like a mother.
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do you really not think ill need the comps in the rear? will it still be as loud without??
whats wrong with the type R sub? can you recommend a better one
no - you won't need the comps in the rear - save yourself some money and spend it on one of these instead...
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_id=2 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_subs_pages.php?page_id=2)
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps_pages.php?page_id=10 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps_pages.php?page_id=10)
no point in doing any installation unless you sound deaden...
http://www.dynamat.com/products_car_audio_introduction.html (http://www.dynamat.com/products_car_audio_introduction.html)
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ok thanks for the suggestions, dynamat seems a good investment, and im thinking about changing the type r sub and amp for a jl 1000 mono and a w7 sub, but if i do this wont the bass kill my single rainbow comps up front, ive already got the v power amp for them at 90w rms??
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or would i be better with a jl 500/1 mono and a w6 sub??
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no - because you would set the amp to the right levels... this is why a professional install makes all the difference... the rainbows are able to handle it anyway and they aren't 'bassy' speakers
your head unit will be able to control the sub level anyway... but have you thought about this... http://www.alpine-europe.com/index.php?id=digital_media_receiv&L=0 (http://www.alpine-europe.com/index.php?id=digital_media_receiv&L=0) - if you have an ipod it's well worth considering... my current alpine sucks at ipod control
measure in decibels and not 'watts' or whatever
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thanks mate your a big help, im defo gunna invest in some dynamat, im actually considering an alpine monitor now, i am tempted to go for the 500/1 mono amp and a 12" w6 sub to save the expense, will this still give good bass power? think it delivers 500w rms
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you don't have to do it all at once if you don't have the cash... I haven't... but if you want decent sounds it's worth waiting a wee while and getting some more bang for your bucks!
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ok so ya reckon a jl 1000 mono amp and a W7 sub? i know what yor saying, will this be ok to run from my normal battery ect??
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yep - seems quite tasty.... will be fine to run from your battery
are you attempting this install yourself?
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Think thats what ill do then, my mate is an audio fitter in halfrauds and hes pretty good so hes gunna do it, i have done a few small install for people, im an electrician so i know the principles, but with this sort of bucks spent id rather my mate did it!
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good call... make sure that you use really decent wiring kit too
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yeah will do, what do you recommend for wiring?, any ideas on a good box for that W7? you sound like you know your stuff mate!
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was just going to say don't get too carried away... but it might be too late!
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/gallery/detail.php?vehicle_id=2162 (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/gallery/detail.php?vehicle_id=2162)
just been advised well... so far!
either use a JL box or a stealthbox if you have the money... depends what you want your install to be like... (i'm still deciding) - there is also a sticky thread pointing to this forum article on doing it yourself if you have the nouse and the time.... http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=76606 (http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=76606)
streetwires for the cabling http://www.streetwires.com/ (http://www.streetwires.com/)
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jst thought id mention if you got a mk3 gti, expect a lot of power loss with install...power to weight ratio is a major factor to a motors speed...the aerial atom for example
i have a tiny amp, 2x 5" vibes, and the rest completly stripped out and the speed difference was jaw dropping!
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i see your point but cars are for comfort, a golfs not blowing anyones socks off, ive got a bike for that :laugh:
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jst thought id mention if you got a mk3 gti, expect a lot of power loss with install...power to weight ratio is a major factor to a motors speed...the aerial atom for example
i have a tiny amp, 2x 5" vibes, and the rest completly stripped out and the speed difference was jaw dropping!
really - that bad?
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thanks for your help gti guy, everyone on here are really helpful
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no problem - it's a nice forum
let us know how the install goes and post some pics..
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oh - and have a read through this... http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=10631.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=10631.0)
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cool will do, you might have 2 show me how to get the pics up when it comes to it haha :laugh:
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:cool: how to post pics - http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2049 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2049)
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I wouldn't expect too much of a power loss - how much is your kit likely to weigh?
Do you notice a significant performance loss when you have a passenger? Thought not.
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Do you notice a significant performance loss when you have a passenger? Thought not.
:grin:
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sorry though i read two subs.. either way if you dnt think power to weight makes a difference heyho then you are rather tarded!
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/rwd.asp?sort=BHP_Per_Ton
go to the bottom, Caparo T1...enough said!
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fair point, when you have rear wheel drive or 4 wheel, but in a front wheel drive car you cant keep the power down anyway, there's no point in having a mk3 with over 200 ish bhp cos you cant use it