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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: telboy on 08 November 2007, 20:01
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Hi all,
New 5 door steel grey now with 2k miles on the clock and starting to loosen up really nice :evil:
Only one potential problem, when rolling along the roads as you do on most motorways, stuck in traffic doing between 5 - 10 mph, my ED30 feels quite jerky almost kangarooing (if there's such a word). :cry: Once upto 10 mph, very smooth :wink:
I have the dsg box and it only happens when between 5 -10mph and gentle pressure applied to accelerator?
Is this the norm, don't really want to take to stealers as it tends to come back with more problems than when first went in? :undecided:
Any help or guidance on this :huh:
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NOT NORMAL.
Mine is as smooth as silk. I had a TDI DSG that had this fault and it ended up having a new controller fitted for the DSG. Some others have had DSG stutter and have had the ECU for the DSG module reflashed with an alternative control programme. Below is a link into the UKMKIV's thread on DSG issues which may be of use.
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/thread/1025625.aspx
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Mine does that too - I thought I just had a bit of a dud DSG box, but between 0-5 mph or maybe a bit more it slows down and speeds up in a gentle kangeroo type motion. Should I really take it to the dealers? I feel that I will just be fobbed off... the behaviour is similar to that of an old car that kangeroos at very slow speeds. I have also found several times now that sometimes the car when put into D-Mode when moving off does not move off immediately but it is almost like 1st gear kicks in after the revs are high and the car jerks forward.
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Mine does that too - I thought I just had a bit of a dud DSG box, but between 0-5 mph or maybe a bit more it slows down and speeds up in a gentle kangeroo type motion. Should I really take it to the dealers? I feel that I will just be fobbed off... the behaviour is similar to that of an old car that kangeroos at very slow speeds. I have also found several times now that sometimes the car when put into D-Mode when moving off does not move off immediately but it is almost like 1st gear kicks in after the revs are high and the car jerks forward.
Get it to the Dealer. I'm surprised that you haven't already. I couldn't live with a £20k+ car that kangaroo'd like an old Austin 7.
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Just been for a drive again, this time nothing????? smooth as you like, sure it only seems to do the stutter thing when engine has been warmed up and only sub 10mph????
Well odd,....... :angry:
I wonder if it could be down to an over sensitive pedal? :huh: Perhaps its my boots causing the problem as when I went out a moment ago in my slippers :wink: no stutter at all???? :shocked:
Re the DSG TT thingy and link, this is different, the car selects gears fine, no crunch, no problem and doesn't miss a gear, mega smooth until warmed up and stuck in slow moving traffic, then it stutters just slightly when between 5-10mph. Could this be the car still bedding in? After all its only a few weeks old?
My issue with dealers is, take your car in and they don't respect it and often mark it in some way, if soemone out there has had this sort of issue that after time went away, then great :wink: I would rather hold on,.............will phone them all the same to ask for advice.
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Link into the TT forum from UKMKIV's and they have a whole array of wierd and wonderful DSG faults. Just seems to be the Audi's that suffer the most though. :undecided:
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Sorry to drag this back up :sad:
Anyone else experiencing this?
Love my steel grey 5 door ed30 with dsg, however if ever I drive it spirited then get caught in slow moving traffic, like today, between 5-10mph the dreaded kangaroo effect happened again, its almost as if the revs are dropping too low because if I rev that little bit higher its smooth as you like?????
I hate with a passion taking it to any stealer :sad:
The car has 2k miles on the clock, could it be anything to do with not being run in yet?
Please guys and girls, give me some pointers as I am due to phone the stealers tomorrow to book it in :angry:
Everything else is fantastic, performance is :evil: :evil: :evil:
Thanks for any advice you can give,
T
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sorry cant help Ive got a manual :tongue:
but does bring to mind a paddle reset you could do on the SMG M3 E46 ,
anyone on here know if them same sort of thing is possible on the DSG ???
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Sometimes you just have to take it to the dealers :cry:
I say again, it is not normal and they can cure it :smiley:
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I received this email a few days back and was wondering if perhaps you could help. Here is the original email:
New 5 door steel grey now with 2k miles on the clock and starting to loosen up really nice
Only one potential problem, when rolling along the roads as you do on most motorways, stuck in traffic doing between 5 - 10 mph, my GTI feels quite jerky almost kangarooing (if there's such a word). Once upto 10 mph, very smooth
I have the dsg box and it only happens when between 5 -10mph and gentle pressure applied to accelerator?
Any advice you could give? Perhaps its only because the car is not fully run in?
Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Michael Stafford
***Email sent to stealer friend who is always usually helpful***
:smiley:
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I have found that mine happens when between 0-5 mph as the dsg insists on keeping my car in 2nd gear. If I manually change down to 1st, the kangeroo effect stops. Is this normal?
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Still not normal Illyun. Mine has absolutely no kangaroo effect in any mode at all!
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No reply yet. But I sent it last night and it is Friday which in Stealer terms is just as good as Sunday. Will let you guys know when the reply comes through.
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Still not normal Illyun. Mine has absolutely no kangaroo effect in any mode at all!
Right, I'll be ringing the dealer asap. :angry:
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Just booked it in with VW Wolsey Ipswich for next Wednesday. They offered to take it in or have an initial drive about with the Master Tech - I opted for the latter purely because I can show him exactly what the effect is and also don't want it driven when I am not around :rolleyes: otherwise I might come back to a car with 2 bald front tyres and an average mpg of 4 over 20 miles :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Ironic really. After 3 previous Mk5s - one of each, a GTI, an R32 and an Ed30 - all of which did not have any problems, I settle on this car and I have a potential DSG fault and rattles from the centre console - sounds like leaves or something stuck in the air passage and wind noise at about 30-50mph from the door mirrors :angry: Really annoying.
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Ironic really. After 3 previous Mk5s - one of each, a GTI, an R32 and an Ed30 - all of which did not have any problems, I settle on this car and I have a potential DSG fault and rattles from the centre console - sounds like leaves or something stuck in the air passage and wind noise at about 30-50mph from the door mirrors :angry: Really annoying.
illyun, I'm the same as you, settle on the ED30 and get this issue, I took mine to my local stealer who plugged it in to their comp system, 'no fault found'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry: and yet still does it and dealer insist this is probably normal?????? Let us know what your dealer says on Weds please and I'll book mine in for a second opinion elsewhere,
I love this car, well and truely brilliant, well except for this tiny issue! :shocked:
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No Kango problems here.
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I only get kangarooing when starting from standstill up a steep incline; its not too bad and would expect that to happen as the clutch is engaged. Apart from that nothing. Only problem i've had with the dsg was selecting the full manual mode - would get all warning lights showing on the dash and loose all power. Thankfully, this has now been fixed by a replacement "tiptronic ecu." I would get it double checked if its particularly bad.
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Well, I've been out today and deliberately done some different set offs.
Incline in manual,sport and drive
Decline in manual, sport and drive
on the flat in manual, sport and drive
Done both hard set offs and normal set offs of all the above.
Still cannot induce ANY kangarooing. It's not as if I can't recognise it as I had the kangaroo map in my last Golf TDI DSG.
So either there is something wrong with mine and I need to have the internal kangaroo remap fitted or there is something wrong with those that kangaroo....and I know what my money is on!
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No roo juice here under and conditions!
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Well, I've been out today and deliberately done some different set offs.
Incline in manual,sport and drive
Decline in manual, sport and drive
on the flat in manual, sport and drive
Done both hard set offs and normal set offs of all the above.
Still cannot induce ANY kangarooing. It's not as if I can't recognise it as I had the kangaroo map in my last Golf TDI DSG.
So either there is something wrong with mine and I need to have the internal kangaroo remap fitted or there is something wrong with those that kangaroo....and I know what my money is on!
Hurdy, I appreciate you taking the time to try your car out to see whether it has any of the aforementioned issues, however mine is fine most of the time and only ever does the slight kangaroo effect after its been driven for well over an hour, really warmed up and when stuck in traffic between 5-10mph, in drive mode only and only when accelerating gradually from 5mph upto 10mph, nightmare trying replicate, will have to find a decent dealer about an hour away from Bournemouth, so that it will replicate the problem! :undecided:
I know it can be sorted and eventually after having either a reflash of software or a new dsg control unit, it will be perfect :wink:
Just a bit of a shame after only 2k miles,....still though think it's the best car I've ever owned!!!! :evil:
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Just a thought....
Wont go into long stories but yesterday we sat in a car park with the manual looking something up. And I noticed that in the manual it says something about a hill incline helper thing. (Hill assist for pulling off on the hill which apparently runs 24/7)
you dont think that might be the reason? Maybe the computer is buggering it up?
Just an idea. Somebody mentioned the car studdering on uphills.
Mike
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Just booked it in with VW Wolsey Ipswich for next Wednesday. They offered to take it in or have an initial drive about with the Master Tech - I opted for the latter purely because I can show him exactly what the effect is and also don't want it driven when I am not around :rolleyes: otherwise I might come back to a car with 2 bald front tyres and an average mpg of 4 over 20 miles :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
illyun, any news on your trip to the dealers :huh:
I took mine in to two differnet dealers and both said the same, no fault found, can't reprogram as has latest software and they also showed me an internal news bulletin from VW claiming that some cars will suffer from this and not to worry as it is perfectly normal :angry:
Would be interested to hear what your dealer said?