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Title: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 08 November 2007, 13:47
Sorry if its been asked before but i cant find a thread about it. Is there that big a differance in performance between the gti 8v and the gti 16v? With the petrol gettin stupidly high i'm thinking is the 16v that much more quicker and worth the extra insurance and petrol cost?
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: remapped on 08 November 2007, 16:25
if you want power go for 16v whit a few mods

8v is good for cheep insurance

and for fuel a 110 bhp Tdi GL would be the one

Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: monzablue16v on 08 November 2007, 16:41
One has 8 valves 4 inlet and 4 exhausts, one has 16 valves 8 inlet and 8 exhausts. Been covered many times, have a use of the search function :)
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Pete Taylor on 08 November 2007, 17:36
Just get a 16v, the insurance isn't much more at all and they're worth more when you come to sell it as they're a lot lot rarer than the standard 8v
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: DaveGTiMK on 09 November 2007, 15:29
16v has 150bhp very revvy engine, IG 16
8v has 115bhp (i think) has more low down torque, IG 14.

If petrol costs are your concern get a MK4 GTTDi or an old 306 D-turbo as this is such an each car to tune up and is IG 6. French rubbish though but fun to drive.
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Pete Taylor on 09 November 2007, 15:35
The 8vs and 16vs both have their advantages and disadvantages

On the negative side, the 16v uses a little tiny bit more fuel and costs a wee bit more to insure.
On the plus side it's worth more when you come to sell it and it's faster.

On the negative side, the 8v is slower and an affordable fast hot hatch for boy racers so quite a few have been thrashed to hell and back.
On the positive side there are a lot of 8vs in scrap yards which have plenty of spare parts you can fix 16vs with!!
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: DaveGTiMK on 09 November 2007, 15:50
although secretly we all want a VR6 so if you think you can stretch to this don't be a silly boy....

BUY IT!!!!
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 09 November 2007, 16:19
Cheers for the info chaps. Desperatly after another 16v now, black ideally or dark blue, sold another car of mine so have the cash for it, also desperatly have to sell the red 16v i'v got, its my everyday car at the mo but i wanna start spending money on it for mods etc but really cant bring myself to keeping it just because its red! Nothing wrong with red cars mind, just not my cuppa tea and i rushed into it!
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Pete Taylor on 09 November 2007, 16:52
I'll swap the red valver for my nan?
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 09 November 2007, 17:26
Does she make a good cuppa tea and bake homemade cakes? Might have a deal on your hands here if she does! :cool:
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Pete Taylor on 09 November 2007, 17:41
yes and she regularly comes home from the local club bingo with winnings ammounting to a whopping 50p!
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 09 November 2007, 17:47
hmmm, i'll have to leave it then, 50p just aint good enough, should at least come home with a fiver for some sweets, particularly humbugs or pear drops.
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Pete Taylor on 09 November 2007, 17:56
She has them in a cupboard from 1837
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 10 November 2007, 00:49
How about 950 quid for my gti and a bag full of pear drops? deal?
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: bored_Welsh_lad on 10 November 2007, 01:57
this is when i cry 950 for a valver and i paid 1500 for mine in a rush ohh well
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: terri8le1 on 10 November 2007, 15:05
I'm crying because no one wants it, not even one enquiry about it! Cant be that sort after. I see ones on 130+ mileage up for 1300-1500 quid! I was just joking about the 950 by the way, 1000 is the lowest i can go.
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: RhosneigrGaz on 10 November 2007, 21:38
Back to the start of the thread, a 8v is a slow shed and the valver is a joy to drive, No choice!
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: jamesd0015 aka jimgti on 10 November 2007, 22:06
TBH, 8v isn’t that much slower than the 16v. Slower yes, but not that much slower. Think about it, if you buy an 8v, would you then worry if you came across a 16v?  :huh: im not!

If you want to buy a fast car, you wouldn't be looking here.  :drool:

So if you want economy between 8v and 16v go for the 8v, if you want speed go for the 16v. To go to one end of the spectrum to another, economy go for a tdi and for speed, go for a VR6.
Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: Overseer on 11 November 2007, 11:28
16v economy is good.. thats why the new low end vw engines are 16v's (e.g. my girlfriends mk4 is a 1.4 16v).. they give better performance AND economy..

Title: Re: Differance between the 8v and 16v engine?
Post by: bored_Welsh_lad on 11 November 2007, 14:14
i really enjoy my mk3...

but then again i have the following to go into the engine

Deramped throttle body and cleaned
mk2 gti 8v cam
lightened and balanced 16v flywheel
cone filter fed into the wing
decat
1/2 cage with rear strut
front strut

when i get back from afgan im going to see if i can get her rr'd before and after.

Then im going to save for some widened steels