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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: markie mark on 25 October 2007, 20:03

Title: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 25 October 2007, 20:03

my sisters car as a starting problem and a idling problem, i need to help her because i sold her the car .
need to get the starting problem sorted first, so then i can sort the idling prob.
right here goes the car is golf gti 8v on a 96 n,reg .
 problem= when you turn the key nothing happens apart from relay clicking under dashboard. there is no noise at all from the starter motor or solinoid.
 
 1. checked power to solinoid (thick cable) and i get 12 volt?
 2. checked power to solinoid (thin cable) when key is turned i get 12 volts?
 3. when turning key should starter turn if solinoid is knacked?
 
 any help will be helpfull cheers.
                                           (NEVER SELL A CAR TO FAMILY)

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 25 October 2007, 21:25

Hi
Put the car in neutral and remove the ignition key. Remove the cable to the solenoid that energizes the solenoid. Is it a spade connector. If it is then make a 2 foot long cable using a thin wire and attach a spade plug to one end. Push this end onto to the solenoid connector. Then, attach the other end of the cable to the positive terminal of the battery. Let me know what happens when you do that.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 25 October 2007, 21:30

Quote from: markie mark on 25 October 2007, 20:03

(NEVER SELL A CAR TO FAMILY)

Hi
When you buy a car from a family member, you know the history of the car which is very useful. By the way, what is the mileage ?

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 25 October 2007, 21:41

got starter motor off now to check. but before i took that cable with the spade on and put volt meter on spade and earth and when the key was turned by the bird i was getting 12 volts

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 26 October 2007, 10:55

HI
Well done for getting it off. Clean the pinion gear and the shaft. Spray lots of wd40 on the gear and behind it. Pull the gear outwards. Does it move easily. Remember to test the starter with a 12v battery before you put it into the car.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 26 October 2007, 11:00

Quote from: markie mark on 25 October 2007, 21:41

but before i took that cable with the spade on and put volt meter on spade and earth and when the key was turned by the bird i was getting 12 volts

You were getting 12 volts on the spade but how good was the connection of the spade to the solenoiod?? That might have been the problem. Also put the battery on charge while you have the starter off.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 26 October 2007, 17:54

motor run fine with 12 volts supply. put loads of wd40 on and left to soke over night. put it back on today but having problems with getting last bolt in( the long one on the bottom) any advise on this.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 26 October 2007, 18:41

sorted, just didnt jack gearbox up high enought . now starts fine, now all i need to do is to stop it stalling all the time.
 full service tomorrow and clean throttle body out.
 thanks for all your help matt.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 26 October 2007, 19:14

Hi
Well done. Check all the vacuum hoses and clean out the ISV.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 26 October 2007, 19:21

hi matt , whot is the isv and where abouts is it . thank again

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 26 October 2007, 19:43

been looking on search and i dont think mine as one, mine is a 8v siemens hitachi.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 26 October 2007, 21:33

Hi
It is the idle stabilisation valve. Put up a picture of the rhs of your engine and i will mark it for you.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 27 October 2007, 09:36

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r214/clippervic/Picture017.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r214/clippervic/Picture018.jpg)

hope these pics work.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: mattkh on 27 October 2007, 11:41

Hi
Thanks for the pictures. I cant see one either. Sorry.

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: markie mark on 27 October 2007, 13:10

done spark plugs, ht leads, dizzy cap,rotor arm,oil change, oil filter, air filter, and cleaned throttle body out.
took it for a long run and all seems fine,fingers crossed. thanks again matt

Title: Re: starter problem help
Post by: boneybradley on 27 October 2007, 13:28

siemens dont have an isv...only the 2e engine bosch fuelled cars