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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: maxamus on 25 October 2007, 15:30
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Right guys.
I think its time for me to treat myself and spend a bit more money on the car.
- I can get some 18" Monza 2 replica's for £300 which i will be ordering in the next few days. However im uncertain as to which tyres to put on them. I was thinking of getting some Pirelli's. I know which ones i want but dont know the model. Its the ones that have Pirelli stamped in red paint on the side. These are the ones im after as the red goes with the car. Does any body know what model they are?
- With me putting 18" alloys on the car (from the standard 17" it has now) do i need to change anything on the car or is it just a case of removing the 17s and attaching the 18s?
- Also, im looking at remapping it. Power wise i want to take it to 250bhp. But i cant source any one local who can do it. Does anyone know of any good guys in the North East who can remap?
APR, Revo or BLUEFIN???
- How does having a remap affect you when you go for a service or an ECU update?
Does it need to be disabled and then re-enabled? Any extra costs?
- And finally, do you guys notify your insurers when you change wheel size or when you get a remap?
PS. will be getting those fog light surround honeycomb covers colourcoded to match the rest of the car.
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dunno about the tyers but £300 (ebay) sounds ok.
as for the remap i had it done by celtic tuning (google it) they actually came to do mine with a laptop. alot of people dont agree with this method but i have had absolutly no problems with 2500 miles!! also they claim to make it 265bhp but after a rolling road it actually has 258bhp! (still good) the best bit is its on offer at the moment for £350. :smiley:
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Right guys.
I think its time for me to treat myself and spend a bit more money on the car.
- I can get some 18" Monza 2 replica's for £300 which i will be ordering in the next few days. However im uncertain as to which tyres to put on them. I was thinking of getting some Pirelli's. I know which ones i want but dont know the model. Its the ones that have Pirelli stamped in red paint on the side. These are the ones im after as the red goes with the car. Does any body know what model they are?
Pirelli P Zero Rossos
Cass
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if you want to take the easy option then superchips will post the bluefin to you (save you driving anywhere), then just do it yourself, very simple process I can assure you! :smiley: (although I know the majority prefer revo and co.) I've done nearly 5k on my bluefin remap and its been a pleasure so far! :cool:
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the best bit is its on offer at the moment for £350. :smiley:
Bargain! :shocked:
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- With me putting 18" alloys on the car (from the standard 17" it has now) do i need to change anything on the car or is it just a case of removing the 17s and attaching the 18s?
Should be straight swop - no problem.
Cass
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- And finally, do you guys notify your insurers when you change wheel size or when you get a remap?
Yes, otherwise you could invalidate your insurance.
Cass
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dunno about the tyers but £300 (ebay) sounds ok.
Thats £350 from a retailer down the road from me :smiley:
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dunno about the tyers but £300 (ebay) sounds ok.
Thats £350 from a retailer down the road from me :smiley:
ah rite :laugh: ive been on ebay, if you wanna save a bit they got some for £280 :tongue:
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Right just spoke to those guys withe the shop near me and they said they can do the 18" two-tone diamond cut Monza II's replicas with Pirelli P Zero Rossos with fitting for £765.
Is that a good deal?
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Not really considering they WILL corrode, they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
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dunno about the tyers but £300 (ebay) sounds ok.
as for the remap i had it done by celtic tuning (google it) they actually came to do mine with a laptop. alot of people dont agree with this method but i have had absolutly no problems with 2500 miles!! also they claim to make it 265bhp but after a rolling road it actually has 258bhp! (still good) the best bit is its on offer at the moment for £350. :smiley:
like the re-map wheels are something you should definetly notify your insurance company about....
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.......they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
care to elaborate...
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Read last months tyre test in Evo before you buy the tyres..Some interesting results.
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.......they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
care to elaborate...
check the offset of the replicas, unless they are ET51 they arent right and will affect the ride quality.
The Monza design is renowned for corroding and quickly! I bet you are only getting a 6 month warrany, ask yourself why! Ask yourself why they are only £300, compared to over £1400 at your dealer and even they corrode!
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.......they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
care to elaborate...
check the offset of the replicas, unless they are ET51 they arent right and will affect the ride quality.
The Monza design is renowned for corroding and quickly! I bet you are only getting a 6 month warrany, ask yourself why! Ask yourself why they are only £300, compared to over £1400 at your dealer and even they corrode!
Therefore if you're going to buy wheels that are going to corrode anyway buy reps and save yourself £1100.... And if you get a wheel that's ET45 or more and notice an adverse effect on the ride you should get a job testing for peas under mattresses :laugh:
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Read last months tyre test in Evo before you buy the tyres..Some interesting results.
got a link?
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What is ET51 or ET45 ?
What ET are the VW Monza's and what ET should the replicas be?
I thought replicas were exactly that - replicas of the original vw monza alloys or am i wrong?
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Read last months tyre test in Evo before you buy the tyres..Some interesting results.
got a link?
Got the Mag.....Try the Evo web site.
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Read last months tyre test in Evo before you buy the tyres..Some interesting results.
got a link?
Got the Mag.....Try the Evo web site.
How did the "Pirelli P Zero Rossos" compare on the test?
They cant be that bad can they. After all, they are the tyres that come with the Ferrari 360 Spider....
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The new Goodyear F1 came top. Look at my tyre survey post below.
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What is ET51 or ET45 ?
What ET are the VW Monza's and what ET should the replicas be?
I thought replicas were exactly that - replicas of the original vw monza alloys or am i wrong?
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AFAIK the wheel offset for a Mk V GTI 18" inch wheel is ET45. Links here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=vw+golf+gti+18"+wheel+offset&meta=
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-GTi-18-Inch-Alloy-Wheels-5x112-ET45_W0QQitemZ180172236299QQcmdZViewItem
Cass
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Read last months tyre test in Evo before you buy the tyres..Some interesting results.
got a link?
Got the Mag.....Try the Evo web site.
How did the "Pirelli P Zero Rossos" compare on the test?
They cant be that bad can they. After all, they are the tyres that come with the Ferrari 360 Spider....
The Evo tyre test was with P Zero Nero's (black, rather than 'Rosso' red), the Nero lacked grip and set poor lap times.
Autocar also recently carried out an extensive test of tyres and they ran the P Zero Rosso's. They performed even worse than the Nero and came last in nearly all the wet and dry tests, they also set the slowest lap times. They used to be the best tyres you could buy and often won group tyre tests but I think that the competition has now moved way ahead.
In summary Autocar called the Rosso's 'woeful'.
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Maxamus, you could always buy some genuine ed30 wheels ! :smiley:
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Maxamus, you could always buy some genuine ed30 wheels ! :smiley:
yea for a stupid price!!!
u got some for sale??
also what is the offset for the mk5 then is it ET45??? will it affect the ride quality at all is is it really unoticable?? :huh: :huh:
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Not really considering they WILL corrode, they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
is there no kind of lacure you can put on the wheels to stop the corroding, or a varnish of some sort?? :huh:
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maybe try a couple of coats of Poorboys wheel sealant. dunno how well it would work but it would give you some protection for wheels against the elements.
i use it on my wheels and all you need is water to rinse of the brake dust :smiley:
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Not really considering they WILL corrode, they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
is there no kind of lacure you can put on the wheels to stop the corroding, or a varnish of some sort?? :huh:
Best you can do is give them a thin coat of wd40 after you have washed them which should be at least once a week during the winter months.
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AFAIK the wheel offset for a Mk V GTI 18" inch wheel is ET45. Links here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=vw+golf+gti+18"+wheel+offset&meta=
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-GTi-18-Inch-Alloy-Wheels-5x112-ET45_W0QQitemZ180172236299QQcmdZViewItem
Cass
The offset should be 51, 45 seems to be the offset of replicas.
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What is ET51 or ET45 ?
What ET are the VW Monza's and what ET should the replicas be?
I thought replicas were exactly that - replicas of the original vw monza alloys or am i wrong?
Its the offest, how the wheel sits in the arch.
ET51 is the proper offset. The replicas are not exact as the offset is not the same. They will still fit your car but wont sit in the arch as intended. Some people think you wont tell the difference but coupled with them being much heavier than the genuine article, I think you will :sad:
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AFAIK the wheel offset for a Mk V GTI 18" inch wheel is ET45. Links here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=vw+golf+gti+18"+wheel+offset&meta=
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-GTi-18-Inch-Alloy-Wheels-5x112-ET45_W0QQitemZ180172236299QQcmdZViewItem
Cass
The offset should be 51, 45 seems to be the offset of replicas.
How does this in REAL TERMS affect drivability?
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AFAIK the wheel offset for a Mk V GTI 18" inch wheel is ET45. Links here:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=vw+golf+gti+18"+wheel+offset&meta=
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-GTi-18-Inch-Alloy-Wheels-5x112-ET45_W0QQitemZ180172236299QQcmdZViewItem
Cass
The offset should be 51, 45 seems to be the offset of replicas.
How does this in REAL TERMS affect drivability?
Its all about opinions really but the steering will certainly seem heavier. A mate fitted some ebay reps to his GTi, they last about 3 weeks before his 17's were back on.
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Not really considering they WILL corrode, they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
is there no kind of lacure you can put on the wheels to stop the corroding, or a varnish of some sort?? :huh:
Best you can do is give them a thin coat of wd40 after you have washed them which should be at least once a week during the winter months.
the Poorboys stuff lasts a bit longer than a week!! I've had two coats on for about 2 months and still need no more than a rinse to wash off the grime
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maxamus, i found these and was going to buy but looking at my funds i cannot afford them, they are origanal monzas with conti sports, for £995 new, if you were goin to spend over 700 for reps then surley you can finf and extra couple of hunderd for these.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Genuine-MK5-Golf-GTI-18-Alloy-wheels-tyres_W0QQitemZ110181762755QQihZ001QQcategoryZ9888QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Not really considering they WILL corrode, they WILL be the wrong offset and they WILL have a negative affect on the ride.
is there no kind of lacure you can put on the wheels to stop the corroding, or a varnish of some sort?? :huh:
Best you can do is give them a thin coat of wd40 after you have washed them which should be at least once a week during the winter months.
the Poorboys stuff lasts a bit longer than a week!! I've had two coats on for about 2 months and still need no more than a rinse to wash off the grime
I appreciate that, I find the same wioth the Poorboys stuff however it wont prevent the salt penetrating the laquer and corroding the alloy. WD40 will.
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maxamus, i found these and was going to buy but looking at my funds i cannot afford them, they are origanal monzas with conti sports, for £995 new, if you were goin to spend over 700 for reps then surley you can finf and extra couple of hunderd for these.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Genuine-MK5-Golf-GTI-18-Alloy-wheels-tyres_W0QQitemZ110181762755QQihZ001QQcategoryZ9888QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Thats a lot more than i want to spend on some alloys which are going to last a year or so.
Im going to see if i can get some replicas which are 51 offsets.
Im not too keen on spending a thousand pounds on ebay. I'll have to pay another amount to get them fitted on top of that.
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I do have a set of Pescara 18" for sale with Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 XL tyres :wink:, plus some other bits, keyring, GTI mats, fascia for stereo for single din fit and boot liner, all VW parts (less the fascia) as my GTI is going very soon. :sad:
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I do have a set of Pescara 18" for sale with Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 XL tyres :wink:, plus some other bits, keyring, GTI mats, fascia for stereo for single din fit and boot liner, all VW parts (less the fascia) as my GTI is going very soon. :sad:
Phil do you have any pictures mate?
I might be interested in some of those items.
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maxamus, i found these and was going to buy but looking at my funds i cannot afford them, they are origanal monzas with conti sports, for £995 new, if you were goin to spend over 700 for reps then surley you can finf and extra couple of hunderd for these.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Genuine-MK5-Golf-GTI-18-Alloy-wheels-tyres_W0QQitemZ110181762755QQihZ001QQcategoryZ9888QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Thats a lot more than i want to spend on some alloys which are going to last a year or so.
Im going to see if i can get some replicas which are 51 offsets.
Im not too keen on spending a thousand pounds on ebay. I'll have to pay another amount to get them fitted on top of that.
but you'll recoup some of your cost by selling your current alloys :afro: also fit them yourself!! changing a wheel is not difficult lol
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I do have a set of Pescara 18" for sale with Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3 XL tyres :wink:, plus some other bits, keyring, GTI mats, fascia for stereo for single din fit and boot liner, all VW parts (less the fascia) as my GTI is going very soon. :sad:
how much do you want for them?? id be very interested!! :smiley:
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Joesgti, PM sent.
Please note wheels are BBS VZ, a VAG specific wheel as per ebay item 160166771424, imported from
Germany, not bought in the UK. These wheels are BBS CH minus Motorsport logo, same as Pescara, but in 8 x 18 size. Apologies if previous post was not clear! :embarassed:
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Superchips Bluefin want £599 for an extra 41BHP taking the car upto 238BHP (original GTI is 197BHP).
That to me seems like a rip off!!!
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Superchips Bluefin want £599 for an extra 41BHP taking the car upto 238BHP (original GTI is 197BHP).
That to me seems like a rip off!!!
A lot cheaper than upgrading to an Edition 30 :smiley:
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Superchips Bluefin want £599 for an extra 41BHP taking the car upto 238BHP (original GTI is 197BHP).
That to me seems like a rip off!!!
how about an APR remap, awesome offering at £499 (245bhp)
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/vw%20golfmk5/remaps.html
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Superchips Bluefin want £599 for an extra 41BHP taking the car upto 238BHP (original GTI is 197BHP).
That to me seems like a rip off!!!
how about an APR remap, awesome offering at £499 (245bhp)
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/vw%20golfmk5/remaps.html
cheers Russ but i think im gonner go for the Bluefin. Going to start saving up.
How do you find your bluefined remap?
And how long to install?
Can you take it off when it goes in for a service or something?
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Superchips Bluefin want £599 for an extra 41BHP taking the car upto 238BHP (original GTI is 197BHP).
That to me seems like a rip off!!!
how about an APR remap, awesome offering at £499 (245bhp)
http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/vw%20golfmk5/remaps.html
cheers Russ but i think im gonner go for the Bluefin. Going to start saving up.
How do you find your bluefined remap?
And how long to install?
Can you take it off when it goes in for a service or something?
Yeah I've been v. happy so far. Had it installed since 1k miles, now at 6.5k miles. I have it on all the time as it is perfectly manageable come rain or shine! But you can just re-install the standard map whenever you want, takes about 20 minutes (takes about 20 minutes to install new map as well), but when you first get the bluefin you have to firstly download the standard map (20 mins), send via. web to superchips, they send back new map (took 3 hours to get mine back IIRC), install that into car (20 mins) away you go!
HTH!! :smiley:
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The 18" monza Replicas are ET45's :embarassed:
Original VW ones i believe are ET51
Hmmm decisions decisions decisions......