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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Dec on 16 October 2007, 20:16
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Ok my dads spotted a H reg Navy blue mk2 driver 1.6 on his works notice board. He said its got 120 something thousand miles.
Its on there for £300 with 12 months MOT and 5 months Tax.
It only has the Steel rims on but they can be changed. Also has the 4 lights on the front (thing Drivers have 2 as standard?)
As it passed the MOT im thinking it cant be too bad :\ Going to get my dad to have a look at it anyway and might buy it.
What stuff should i look out for at this low price (problems etc.)? Might just be that someone thinks the age brings the price down to that buy who knows :\
Thanks
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its like any second hand car if its been loved then it will be fine, lets be honest 300.00 with the fact that its been mot'd and has 80.00 of rent in the window would be enough to convince me its a winner.
it depends what your dream is, if you want a good solid reliable car for transport then it is probably just that.
if you really want a gti, unless it insurance or age preventing you then save up and get one.
a 1600 driver with the same components just less power being pushed through it for its life is bound to be in good order
check it, starts, drives no funny noises etc, after that value is just added for desirability, service history and the big one condition.
i just paid 2.5k for a 16v its got all the bits and is standard, im happy cause i think its woth it, if its what you want, in yr budget then i am sure it will be a good starting point, its a good place to learn, parts are cheap and plentiful and its a mk2 what more can you want.
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yup i cant fork out the extra for the insurance just yet :( only 17 :evil:
Thanks for that man im going to give it a look at least :)
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as said, for a car with 12 months ticket and some rent on it £300 is good.
See how much life is left in the tyres, they may have JUST passed the MOT.
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£300 still sounds like a steal as the mot is £50 and 5months tx is about £50!
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yea i need something that will work for a while so if the magority of it looks sound (bodywork not too shabby/repairable and the engines not too bad then i might get it just to use for 6 months (might have left college by then and gots a real job :laugh:)
Tyres arent a mega problem as i know some people in the business :)
Been looking on ebay at GTi's aswell that i could take parts off (big bumpers and such) aswell :grin:
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Go for it, i had one a few years ago, nice red Driver, had 148k on the clock, and it went for 2 years no probs.
Oh and the four light grill is standard for the driver.
I loved that car, shame the heater matrix blew up and flooded the car :angry: and then went mouldy haha
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Go for it, i had one a few years ago, nice red Driver, had 148k on the clock, and it went for 2 years no probs.
Oh and the four light grill is standard for the driver.
I loved that car, shame the heater matrix blew up and flooded the car :angry: and then went mouldy haha
Is there a way to take out the inner lights? I dont like them much :\ waiting for my dad to get home to find out if he's seen it or anything :sad:
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yeah buy a single light grille and unplug the centre lights ... its that wasy :wink:
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keep the twin lights mate. Personally I reckon that's what makes them look so sexy from the front.
Personal preference though obviously so do your thing :)
As everyone else here has said, £300 with tax and ticket - already on to a winner. I've just spent £1800 on my 8v gti, it's in good nick, but I'm still in the mood for spending as much as I can on it (and the bank have just approved a new credit card with a 3.5k limit on it - oh dear!!)..... I imagine you'll be the same, they're a very lovable car.
Happy driving.
b4
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yeah buy a single light grille and unplug the centre lights ... its that wasy :wink:
sweet thanks :D i prefer the look of singles :)
keep the twin lights mate. Personally I reckon that's what makes them look so sexy from the front.
Personal preference though obviously so do your thing :)
As everyone else here has said, £300 with tax and ticket - already on to a winner. I've just spent £1800 on my 8v gti, it's in good nick, but I'm still in the mood for spending as much as I can on it (and the bank have just approved a new credit card with a 3.5k limit on it - oh dear!!)..... I imagine you'll be the same, they're a very lovable car.
Happy driving.
b4
I dont want to spend too much on this one as after ive gotten some NCB i wana get an 8v gti and become a real member of the forum :grin: (not a wanabe :tongue:)
Cheers guys my dads got all the details for me now and hes giving the person a ring 2moz (:angry: thought he was gonna today)
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update guys...
My dad phoned the guy today. The car had a couple of bits done for the MOT but nothing major, has a manual choke because the auto choke gave him some trouble. He doesnt use it much and is selling because his wife who used the car has a company car and he walks to work.
My dads gonna have a look tomorrow and arange a day/time for me to go and have a look with the cash if my dad thinks its ok. :grin:
so excited :embarassed: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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drivers have a problem with the carb when there old it doesnt run rite whatever you do and a new weber conversion is a couple of hundred quid, a cheap way to make it faster is to put an 8v gti cam in it, and a stainless exhaust
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things to check:
when you get there see if its been started, if it has let it cool down before you start it (one of my mates nearly got ripped off because he viewed a car what had been warmed up, turned up unexpected to buy it, seller fired it up, rattly as fook...)
start it up and make sure its not smoking and no rattles, knocks pings etc
check under arches and sills for major rust spots
check mot notice for advisory's, have a look at tyres, also see how dirty the oil filter is, spark plugs, oil itself etc give yaself a vague idea when it last had a service :nerd:
also if its got the plastic arch covers check behind them, my driver wasnt meant to have em standard, had a look behind one, no arch left just rust :wink:
hope this helps :smiley:
sam :smiley:
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Def. check arches floors for rust got mine home (only £100) and found front drivers inner arch and floor to be swiss cheese but lukkily i can weld so no probs. also make sure no humidity on windows on test drive from heater as matrix app. is a pig, still gotta do mine :sad:
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like has been said b4 i had to get a new carb for mine as it was totally fubar :laugh:
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Cheers guys im not actually seeing it tomorrow but my dad is (its a high security place they work :sad: so no getting in for me) but my dad is an ex. mechanic and re-builds motorbikes all the time so he knows what general stuff to look for. If he gives it the OK, when i go and look/buy it (hopefully sunday) then ill make sure the said things are ok. Ill ask the bloke if its had a carb at all aswell :smiley:
thanks for your help... updates tonight :grin:
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Ok so my dad thinks the engine is sound the guy took my dad down the A12 and said it was seemed fine at speed aswell...
has had a new carb recently but has dents etc in it :sad: not sure if im gonna go with it or not.
Do you think its still worth it even though its got a few dents and dings (nothing too bad im told)
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dents can always be pulled out mate :evil: 300 for your first car cant be bad ... and its a mk2 golf so you cant go wrong :P
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how easy is it to pull dents out? (not sure where they are yet my dad has only given me the basics so far and even if i only have it for a year it should do.
My dad doesnt think its worth spending any money on but i want to get a few bits and pieces (de-badged grill and smoked lights) but as theyre only small bits from ebay i might just do it anyway.
How often does the cambelt need changing?
How much is a new battery likely to be?
really considering it tbh, 1st car isnt everything :\
The guy is driving somewhere in it tomorrow and has told my dad to ring him to arrange me to go and see it when he's on his way back so could get it tomorrow :grin:
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1st off £300 is a bargain price!
Debadged grille and headlights can be transferred over to another golf (or sold on ebay) when you decide you don't want the car so easily done, there's plenty of other small mods you can do that you can take with you when you're finished with the car.
Batteries aren't that cheap, why do you think you need one?
And yeah your first car is something you use to really learn to drive in, something too beautiful or fast isn't the right tool for the job.
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ok so had a proper chat with my dad and have decided to have a look. :grin:
My dad said that the engine turns over slowly when trying to start however had no trouble starting and the battery looks old so that could be the problem.
The car needs one tyre as its beginning to crack and there is a small crack in the windscreen but was ok for the MOT. :sad:
The advisorys on the MOT were the handbreak (sorted on the MOT) and the tyre (i can get one cheap from a friend). :wink:
There is a crack in one inner light and one of the outer ones. I had already planned on getting smoked lights and taking out the inners so thats no problem for the time being. :smiley:
im just abit concerned about going to a car w/o power steering and a differnet clutch :\ sure ill get used to it though (dad recons anyway)
As said £300 for a beat up car isnt too bad really. Just gotta get some sounds into it and im set :grin:
will be going to look at it tomorrow afternoon and from what my dad said its not too bad and im definately considering it.
Thanks for the help guys. If/when i go ahead ill get some pics up :grin:
ooo btw how fast will this go? it sat at 70 nicely without rattling or shaking.
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my 1.6 driver has a weber carb and reaches 0-60 in about 10 seconds ... top speed 115 but obviously i havent doen that :wink: :laugh:
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nice... my m8s 2003 fiesta 1.4 is limited to 102mph (yea we tried coz didnt belive the manual :tongue:)
where did you get your alloys and how much did you pay? or did they come on the car?
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got them from a scrap yard .. they came of a 16v gti but i dont think they are standard ... i payed 100 for them, getting them fully refurbed soon :laugh:
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ooo nice hmm wonder if i can find a bargain like that... :evil:
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ooo just thought... the manager at work has a rover metro with wheels similar to those on... anyone know if theyre the same fittings or however its worked out?
His MOT runs out in november and its going to the scrapper so could be my bargain :evil:
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would have to be pcd 4x100 and 35offset i think i got that right :grin:
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Ahh had a look and theyre either 12" or 13" :sad:
would this golf be worth £300 even if its fairly ratty bodywork?
im really quite worried tbh
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Ahh had a look and theyre either 12" or 13" :sad:
would this golf be worth £300 even if its fairly ratty bodywork?
im really quite worried tbh
Any car with 12months ticket and 5months tax is worth £300 if you ask me, a couple of dents cant really be considered ratty when you consider even the latest mk2s are now 15years old!
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For £300 its always worth a punt! :smiley:
With it looking tatty your main concern is rust on any structural parts i would reckon but with 12 months MOT you'll be fine till then!
Any dodgy mechanical stuff is easy enough to sort on a golf and a good tool to learn on but rust involves cutting and welding bits and if like me you can't do it yourself, often costs an arm and leg in labour charges.
Get 12" wheels and drop it to the deck! :grin:
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the worst cosmetic rust is around the fuel filler cap. Not an MOT failure as the fuel tank is all plastic including the fiiller but the surround can rot away and not pretty.
Golf MK2 drivers imho are a fantastic car for a first time driver and a great way into a MK2. owned one from 80k to 160K best car I ever owned. Still sell the odd J and H plater and they are still solid as a rock
£300 tax and 12 months test cant go far wrong
the fact it still has the original steels is a good sign to it being original easily changed though :-) Just watch the mods and let the insurance company know.
re the pas if you get the tracking and camber checked and the tyre pressures correct wont be as heavy as you think.
cheap first car and so easy to repair when they go wrong and with this forum never short of help
good luck with your viewing
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So i just got back from seeing it :grin: looks pretty tatty but with a good clean, bit of touch up paint to a few minor scratches and such it wont be too bad. The interior is tidy and not ripped.
The radio does not have an arial (who listens to radio at 17 anyways xD) so a replacement with cd + line in is required (to me anyway).
im gonna go with it, give it a tidy up and use if for the time being. Everything worked on it (wipers, lights etc...) needs an oil change though.
Is there a way to sort out the boot? I didnt like the way that the spare sticks up :sad:
Also how does the car have full beam after i take out the inner lights? I really dont like them tbh. Do the outer lights also brighten on full beam eliminating my worry?
The guy said to think about it and my dad will talk to him at work but im gonna get it :grin: likely to go pick it up within a week, whenever the guy is available.
Cheers
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My 89' 8V has a space saver spare with a jack that sits in the middle of that. It still sticks up a bit in the boot but its not a big bulge :shocked: Its never really bothered me.
Yup, the outer lights are dual filament bulbs so change between dipped and main beam. The inner lights also come on with the main beam. Personally, I like the look of four headlamps and on a dark rainy unlit road, its got to be better with them on! :smiley:
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only coz i wana put a sub in the boot :wink: but might not be a problem :\
I like the four lights but cant decide between a 2 light debadged grill or 4 light eyebrow spoiler :\ dont like the 4 light debadged grills much.
Also not a big deal but the black bits on the bumpers are abit faded is there a way to restore them abit? I know a guy who would be able to help but hes not about for a little while :(
Thanks
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re the bumpers use black shoe polish,
the hump in the boot annoyed me too on my driver just look out for a gti boot carpet and a 14 inch space saver same fitment and then a nice flat boot
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Awesome cheers mate :smiley:
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Picked her up today :cool:
No rust just needs a good clean :grin: sadly only had time to give it a mega hoover and take one pic today :sad:
pics abit naff as its from my phone but here it is!
(http://www.tunergolf.co.uk/pics/DSC00256.JPG)
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looks good mate!
personally i like the 4 lamp grilles but everyone has different tastes ... on my car i have had pretty much every grille going but always go back to the 4 lamp with vw badge :D
like has been said already the spare wheel in the boot really annoyed my aswell ... there was no room in the boot for my sub so i got a 14" space saver wheel and GTI boot carpet and now the sub fits nicely :evil: :drool: :evil:
(http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j283/nhoyglun/0702280013.jpg)
she just needs a good slamming :wink: :grin:
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nice little Mk2 driver there, royal blue metalic by the look of it bargin for £300 with 12 months tax. welcome to the world of golf ownership :-)
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woa nice boot setup :grin: should be fitting my 6x9s tomorrow or sunday and getting my sub sorted when i can get it upto mine as its currently sitting 2 mins down the road at my grans due to lack of space (damn dad and his motorbikes :rolleyes:)
Wont be getting it slammed for a while as my insurance goes up £200-£300 and when its the nasty side of £2000 anyway its quite abit of difference :cry:
Im currently watching ebay for a grille to come up (few around but wana get one cheap :tongue:) and seen a place near me that does the space saver wheels so gonna get one of those sorted before i can drive :grin:
6 weeks today til my test :angry: stupid waiting list
yea wasnt bad for £300. The guy i got it from paid £700 3 years ago but the interior was abit of a state til i got hoovering lol. No rips in the seats though :grin:
my mum (who drove it back) said that theres a slight pull to the left so i think the trackings out but its nothing major as one hand resting on it stops it going anywhere.
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sounds good fella i have a 4 lamp de-badge grille for sale if you change your mind ;)
tracking is out on mine but il get that sorted after the wheels have been refurbed ...
try looking in your local scrappies, they always have space savers in for cheap :)
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£12 on ebay for a space saver :grin: only a short trip aswell
how much you looking for the grill?
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So today,
Gave her a nice clean :grin: came out better than i thought but made the scrapes show up more :sad:
Spoke to my dads friend and he gonna help me make it good :grin:
He said hes got some stuff for the bumpers for me, a sub, a headunit and some other bits and pieces. Hes gonna help me do a few bits to it like tidy up the paintwork/dents and stuff and also he has some wheel spacers so i can have wide wheels :laugh: He also has some red trim for me to put on it in the GTi places...
Got so much planned for this car now that hes agreed to help me (my dads an old g1t and doesnt like me getting a car :angry: him and his damn bikes)
:grin: a very happy Dec :grin: