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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: catch on 20 September 2007, 07:18

Title: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: catch on 20 September 2007, 07:18
My car has been for its MOT and needs 2 things doing to it. Its a 16v GTI (original disks at the front and back) :cry:

1. New brake pressure regulator
2. New copper brake lines at the back of the car (at least I think they are copper)

I've seen the brake pressure regulator's for sale on the internet so it shouldn't be a problem getting a replacement.
But is it just a case of re-fitting it or does it need adjustment / setting up?

I have been looking around for the brake lines and nobody seems to stock pre-shaped ready to fit replacement's.
Does anybody know where I can buy these?

thanks
David
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: DarnPB on 20 September 2007, 08:17
If you know the total legnth of the pipe, then you can get them made to size, then bend them to shape during fitting. Its quite easy. Bend the piped in as wide a radius you can, bending them round your thumbs with your fingers. To tight a radius will knacker the pipe should you kink it. Also, with very tight bends, the copper tends to work harded making it very brittle. Just a little time and care, and you won´t find it too much of a problem.
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: clipperjay on 20 September 2007, 09:18
http://www.automec.co.uk/frame_set.html

This company has been around since I was a kid. I've used them for MKI's and MKII's very good stuff.
Copper lines are soft enough to manipulate around firewalls and underbellys of the Golf making it easier to change out old brake pipes.
They should do a kit for the MKII which is pre measured for exact fitment.   
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: Horney on 20 September 2007, 11:54
I bought a kit and made my own, saved loads of money and was quite fun. As for bending to get in shape I can highly recomend using household objects of the right radius. Mugs, pots, hammer handles, whatever should give you the right curve needed. This way you get a smooth curve and no chance of slipping and kinking.

Nick
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: catch on 20 September 2007, 12:17
I gave the people at this place a call:
http://www.automec.co.uk/frame_set.html

They do a kit with the pipes cut to length. You just bend them yourself and fit them.
About £85 for all of them.

thanks for the help on this.
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: catch on 20 September 2007, 12:29
One further question. The pipe layout on right and left hand drive cars - is it the same?
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: DarnPB on 20 September 2007, 13:30
I own a left hooker as I live in Spain. There will be differences as the servo, and therefore the master cylinder are on the opposite sides. As for the rear of the car, I don't know. I guess they would be the same. But this is only a guess.
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: clipperjay on 20 September 2007, 13:37
I gave the people at this place a call:
http://www.automec.co.uk/frame_set.html

They do a kit with the pipes cut to length. You just bend them yourself and fit them.
About £85 for all of them.

thanks for the help on this.

Glad they worked out for you very reliable company.

As for left hookers the servo or master cyn is on the right side, its the right hookers that are wrong as its UK spec :laugh:. All I know is that right hookers seem to have longer pipes as the cyn is further, but I'm sure the extra length is only on the firewall side to sevo. really should not be a problem if you state if your after left or right?

 
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: Mew on 20 September 2007, 13:43
I gave the people at this place a call:
http://www.automec.co.uk/frame_set.html

They do a kit with the pipes cut to length. You just bend them yourself and fit them.
About £85 for all of them.

thanks for the help on this.

Glad they worked out for you very reliable company.

As for left hookers the servo or master cyn is on the right side, its the right hookers that are wrong as its UK spec :laugh:. All I know is that right hookers seem to have longer pipes as the cyn is further, but I'm sure the extra length is only on the firewall side to sevo. really should not be a problem if you state if your after left or right?

 

SOunds like you're thinking of the mk1 :wink:
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: clipperjay on 20 September 2007, 14:00
I gave the people at this place a call:
http://www.automec.co.uk/frame_set.html

They do a kit with the pipes cut to length. You just bend them yourself and fit them.
About £85 for all of them.

thanks for the help on this.


Glad they worked out for you very reliable company.

As for left hookers the servo or master cyn is on the right side, its the right hookers that are wrong as its UK spec :laugh:. All I know is that right hookers seem to have longer pipes as the cyn is further, but I'm sure the extra length is only on the firewall side to sevo. really should not be a problem if you state if your after left or right?

 

SOunds like you're thinking of the mk1 :wink:

My nick is Clipperjay afterall it was the last time I did a complete brake system it was with Audi 80 set up and the pipes where finished! I'm getting old Mew :wink:
Title: Re: GTI 16v Copper brake lines - help
Post by: catch on 20 September 2007, 17:26
I put the car up on the ramp tonight to look at the brake pressure regulator. The are 4 brake lines connected to it, a big spring and it seems to move freely. So what could the problem possibly be. The back whells don't lock up when i brake really hard and everything seems fine to me? I have a feeling the MOT man does not know what he's doing!

How can i test this part?