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Title: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: TagnuT on 15 September 2007, 08:26
All you EVO subscriber folk.......what was the results of the performance tyre test? Did the Pilot sport 2 come out top (TTs Fav)?
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Manu_R32 on 15 September 2007, 12:42
What edition was the Tyre test....latest edition iv got is the one with the new GT2 on it...if not the results would be nice to know :)
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: john_o on 15 September 2007, 12:59
Guys,

Great issue of EVO this month. Fantastic M series test as well as tyres stuff.

Im sure someone will scan it in but overall

(all were in 225/45 17 inch sizes)

1st Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymetric (note this is the new pattern not the older GSD3 which I loved)
2nd Vredestein Ultrac sessanta !
3rd Continental Contisport contact 3
4th Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
5th Mich Pilot Sport PS2
6th Pirelli PZero Nero
7th Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
8th Dunlop Sport Maxx
9th Yokohama S.DRIVE

Personally I always wondered how good the new F1 pattern tyre would be , I loved the GSD3 tyre.
Based on this is could be even better , the GSD3 usually excelled in wet weather tests but not so good in dry , so the new pattern looks to have improved this.

Interestingly , they also state that they tested the OE 18 inch with Bridgestones RE050-A and they were WORSE!!! 2.5 sec a lap slower than 17's tested above.
Go figure! maybe I should stop the ED30 I have on order lol

(they alos state that the E30 suspension is the same as std golf)

Hope that all helps

JohnO (former M3 E46 driver , awaiting an ED30)
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Manu_R32 on 15 September 2007, 13:44
Dont think TT will be happy to see that the Pilot Sports have come 5th, honestly thought they would be abit higher in the league. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Hurdy on 15 September 2007, 15:54
Conti's 3rd yeaaaah. :laugh:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: TagnuT on 15 September 2007, 16:31
You have Conti 2s or 3s on yours Hurdy? Mind you after all those 1/4 Mile runs you will be due a new set of boots.. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: illyun on 15 September 2007, 16:47
You have Conti 2s or 3s on yours Hurdy? Mind you after all those 1/4 Mile runs you will be due a new set of boots.. :rolleyes:

I had Conti's on my 06 GTI, Dunlop Sport Shyte on my first Ed30 and have Michelin Pilots on my current car - can't remember what the R32 had. 
I think the Conti's were brilliant, the Michelins are very good and the Dunlop Sport Shyte were... shyte  :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Hurdy on 15 September 2007, 16:51
You have Conti 2s or 3s on yours Hurdy? Mind you after all those 1/4 Mile runs you will be due a new set of boots.. :rolleyes:

Conti 2's on mine.......at the moment :rolleyes: my dealer promised Conti's as replacements, so at some point hope for Conti 3's even if I have to put a bit to them :cool:

4k up at present and still 5mm of tread left...so 3mm down and 3mm to go, so looks like 8-9k for the fronts.
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: R32UK on 15 September 2007, 17:09
My R32 came with Dunlop sport maxx. I must say that I am not that impressed with them!! When they are due a change I think i will be opting for the mich's or the conti's.

They seem to squeeeeeeel like hell round corners at speed (yep its that speed issue again) havent had a chance to test them fully in the wet.. cant belive it hasnt rained since i got my car. The whole point of having 4wd was so I could continue to drive like a loon in the wet! roll on autumn!! And i will tell you if they are any better..
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: k4ith on 15 September 2007, 18:21
anyone know what tyres i will get on my new ED30, the demo had Bridgestone potenza's, seem to be whats at hand on the production line.
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Hurdy on 15 September 2007, 19:11
anyone know what tyres i will get on my new ED30, the demo had Bridgestone potenza's, seem to be whats at hand on the production line.

It's a bit of a sweepstake. I've noticed about four different types of tyres :undecided:. I agree with what you say in the fact it must simply be what they have at lineside on the shop floor at the time they are due to put the boots on.

Losers in the lottery get Dunlop's :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Cass on 15 September 2007, 19:18
Loser here - I got those - Sport Maxx :embarassed:

Have to say that I haven't had any problem with them though in either wet or dry but they have been quite noisy since about 1k miles (currerntly 6k). car is in for service in a couple of weeks and I have asked the dealer to comment on them.

Cass
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Hurdy on 15 September 2007, 19:28
Loser here - I got those - Sport Maxx :embarassed:

Have to say that I haven't had any problem with them though in either wet or dry but they have been quite noisy since about 1k miles (currerntly 6k). car is in for service in a couple of weeks and I have asked the dealer to comment on them.

Cass

Ouch....Sorry about that Cass. What do you mean by noisy? Squealing on corners and road rumble on rough surfaces? :undecided:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: speedynz on 16 September 2007, 04:56
anyone know what tyres i will get on my new ED30, the demo had Bridgestone potenza's, seem to be whats at hand on the production line.
I think that your choice will be either:

Continental Sport Contact 2. A hard riding middle of the road affair but with good wear rates.

Michelin pilot Exalto. Not as good as a Pilot Sport but a very resonable all rounder.

Bridgestone Potenza (RE050A I think). Another fine all rounder but not tops.

Dunlop Sport Maxx. Not sexy or sporty but unless you're on your door handles they're fine.

My dealer offered a choice of all four tyre brands and said that he would have tyres taken off of showroom cars to fit on my own car. I offered to pay for this service but they said it would be complimentary.

A very nice offer and not too much difficulty for the dealership.

Why not ask you dealer, they can only say no.
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Bobman on 16 September 2007, 08:27
Interesting stuff... the GTI I'm picking up on Friday has Dunlop SP Sport 01A's - anyone know how they differ to the Sport Maxxs?

Mind you, there's two virtually new ones on the front, and they're about to add two new ones (which, no doubt, will also be SP Sport 01A's) at the back so, unless I want to bin 2 near-new ones and change (e.g. to Michelin Pilot Sport PS2's), I don't think I have any option do I..?

cheers
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: speedynz on 16 September 2007, 08:49
Oh, I didn't know your car was used!

If it is then personally I would ask for the new tyres to be put on the front, other peoples views on this may differ.

The Dunlop's may well be the OE spec (I did say I'm not sure about the OE Dunlop's exact spec).

The Golf GTI is a middling fast hatchback and therefore is supplied as original equipment on fine 'all round sporting' tyres (which is fair enough), if your car is on Dunlops SP's then I wouldn't be worried.

We all like to think that we're a 'hand' at the wheel and we'll notice minute differences in chassis attitude according the chosen tyres but in reality we're more 'hand jobs' at the wheel and wouldn't differentiate block flex and progressive slip angles from a range of tyres if they were served to us for dinner.

Enjoy your car and the Dunlop's it sits on, in my humble opinion you've made a fine choice.
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Simonet on 16 September 2007, 17:00
I find the Dunlops fine, if the others are better, then the ed30 must be even better!
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Hurdy on 16 September 2007, 17:25
I find the Dunlops fine, if the others are better, then the ed30 must be even better!

True, True :wink:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: R32UK on 16 September 2007, 19:14
to be honest the dunlop sport max's aint been that bad recently.. I know I posted differently previuously but they only had about 200 miles on them and I just read that they needed time to wear in... Stupid of me to not realise really :laugh:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: batracing on 16 September 2007, 19:47
its a no brainer when it comes time to change now after reading evo. michelin ps2s are obviousley not as good as everybody thought , goodyear eagle fi asymmetric is the way to go :grin:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: datracer99 on 17 September 2007, 04:44

Interestingly , they also state that they tested the OE 18 inch with Bridgestones RE050-A and they were WORSE!!! 2.5 sec a lap slower than 17's tested above.


Not unheard of. We run a control yokohama semi-slick tyre (A048R), and unless you have a heavy car (Say 1500kg or more) the the lower profiles just don't work. Not enough flex in the sidewall, resulting in poor drive.

We changed from 215x45x17 to 225x50x16, and gained 2 seconds a lap.
So lower profile is not always the way to go. In most cases the only benefit fit is the ability to fit bigger brakes.
But 18" wheels do look good on a GTI  :smiley:
Title: Re: Evo Tyre test.
Post by: Bobman on 17 September 2007, 09:26
Thanks speedynz...

We all like to think that we're a 'hand' at the wheel and we'll notice minute differences in chassis attitude according the chosen tyres but in reality we're more 'hand jobs' at the wheel and wouldn't differentiate block flex and progressive slip angles from a range of tyres if they were served to us for dinner.

can say I understood much of it, but point taken! btw either you just made that up to illustrate the point, or 'hand job' means something different in NZ!  :grin: