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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Phil mcavity on 06 September 2007, 17:34
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does anyone know if its possible to convert a Mk5 GTi to LPG??. due it only costing 47p a litre, and performance normally on LPG isnt normally too much a drop( or maybe increase).
Please guys dont take the mikee on this, hot hatch and LPG not normally in the same sentence. T.T, do you have any thougths on this??
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does anyone know if its possible to convert a Mk5 GTi to LPG??. due it only costing 47p a litre, and performance normally on LPG isnt normally too much a drop( or maybe increase).
Please guys dont take the mikee on this, hot hatch and LPG not normally in the same sentence. T.T, do you have any thougths on this??
if you are seriously considering this Phil, I think you brought the wrong car!! :evil:
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well it was just a thought, after a fill up at tesco's today , full tank £53, doesnt £26 full tank not make you think again???. If theres no difference in performance, surely a no brainer, less tax, and like i said ive no idea on the subject , thats why im asking maybe T.T might like to have a laugh about it aswell. And its a difference topic on here for a change!!!, thats have a laugh and constructual discussion :wink:
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Lad I know has had his Megane 225 done and swears by it, now only spends £20 every two weeks on fill up's!!
He can switch over to the petrol tank and thinks the car run better on the LPG? Not sure on GTi but sure it can be done.
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Phil
I agree 47p a litre is tempting. Had a quick look on Google and it seems the answer is - not yet. At the moment you can only convert single & multi point injection VAG engines, although some places are offering direct injection (FSI) conversions on other manufacturers. VW are trialling LPG conversions on direct injection engines. Google also threw up there seems to be some doubt over the long-term future of LPG ..... along with increased servicing costs, additional wear on engines valves etc.
For fuel economy & GTI performance, there's an all-new VAG 2.0 TDI diesel Bluetec - 204 bhp, 295 lb ft torque, 48 mpg est. Goes in the Audi Q3 in 2010, not sure if it's planned into the rest of the range any earlier (i.e. Mk6 Golf). I appreciate that involves buying a new car which does negates any fuel cost saving etc., and waiting 3 years!
Robin
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thankyou for your answers tash+Robin, looks like eventually its a possibility,and not such a silly idea as 1st thought, worth keeping an eye on
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I've done the full monty at Palmerpromo sport at Bedford Autodrome- all their kit runs on gas incl Caterhams.
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does anyone know if its possible to convert a Mk5 GTi to LPG??. due it only costing 47p a litre, and performance normally on LPG isnt normally too much a drop( or maybe increase).
<cough, cough> :shocked: :shocked: <cough, cough>, :wink:
Please guys dont take the mikee on this, hot hatch and LPG not normally in the same sentence.
You're right, there! However, it IS an interesting proposition, and one which shouldnt be rubbished. :nerd:
T.T, do you have any thougths on this??
I have no personal experience, but I am aware of a couple of issues. You can't go through the channel tunnel with LPG cars, and you need to be extremely careful about ensuring you get a properly accredited installer. Don't forget the insurance and MoT implications, and the fact that the LPG installation will need a separate specialist inspection (but I don't know the frequency).
Your best option would be to Google for LPG forums, or even Range Rover V8 forums, where RR V8s are known to be a tad thirsty. When you have found out more, let us all know. :smiley:
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If theres no difference in performance,
I think that LPG runs at about 90-95% of the efficiency of petrol. Bear in mind that those figures are based on standard 95 unleaded, so if you run on super unleaded all the time, the performance drop will probably be closer to 90%.
On the flip-side, how often do you use 100% of your present performance? :smug: If you did get the LPG conversion, you could select LPG for around town, and general pootling around (and also when SWMBO drives :wink: ), and switch back to petrol for when you want to hoon around.
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Lad I know has had his Megane 225 done and swears by it, now only spends £20 every two weeks on fill up's!!
He can switch over to the petrol tank and thinks the car run better on the LPG? Not sure on GTi but sure it can be done.
Ohh, a spanner to throw in the works. The GTI uses cylinder direct fuel injection, so there may be issues around that.
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Google also threw up there seems to be some doubt over the long-term future of LPG ..... along with increased servicing costs, additional wear on engines valves etc.
That is when peeps run soley on LPG, and don't alternate with petrol.
LPG is a much purer, cleaner fuel - and does not contain any lubricating properties like petrol does. I personally doubt the long term future of LPG will be any worse than petrol, afterall, LPG produces few emissions. LPG will follow the same fate as petrol, in that it will be replaced by fuel cell, or hydrogen technologies - but not in our lifetimes!
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Due to the zero Lub in LPG, Toyota (lexus) / Honda will nill and void warrantys on engee bengees fitted with LPG, i know because my Fathers IS200 fell fowl to the bores getting scored due to lpg on long runs.... dont do it man :lipsrsealed:
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someone brought this up the other day in the MK4 section and like gsn says, you run a risk of damage to the engine, and in terms of saving you're not saving that much more over a TDI
IMO get a MK5 GT TDI 170 DSG and get it remapped
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So, if someone did go for an LPG conversion - how much room does the LPG tank take up and how much weight does it add :undecided:
I for one will stick to the good stuff :wink:
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Google also threw up there seems to be some doubt over the long-term future of LPG ..... along with increased servicing costs, additional wear on engines valves etc.
That is when peeps run soley on LPG, and don't alternate with petrol.
LPG is a much purer, cleaner fuel - and does not contain any lubricating properties like petrol does. I personally doubt the long term future of LPG will be any worse than petrol, afterall, LPG produces few emissions. LPG will follow the same fate as petrol, in that it will be replaced by fuel cell, or hydrogen technologies - but not in our lifetimes!
Speak for yourself. :tongue:
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I had a similar query but running the gti on bioethanol as opposed to LPG. Still looking for an answer - emailed VW in germany a while back and they said their diesel engines run on biodiesel, but there is no provision yet for their petrol engines to run on bioethanol. It would be excellent though, as there is quite a substantial increase in power, reduction in CO2 and it costs much less, although it is very slightly less economical. Having said that, I did get an email from a company who does conversions for bioethanol, and he said that it is doable on the golf.
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re bioethanol it might be easier asking some of the yanks, as they have been using bio for a while now.
re tank size, my granddad actually runs lpg in his rover and the tank is about the size of 2 golf bags, i think you can get smaller tanks though.
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So, if someone did go for an LPG conversion - how much room does the LPG tank take up and how much weight does it add :undecided:
The LPG tank usually goes in the spare wheel well. Dunno about the weight, but they are fairly robust, so will be a tad heavier than the spare.
I for one will stick to the good stuff :wink:
Me too! :smug: