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Title: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: phil88 on 28 August 2007, 10:20
took these off my car, all corroded. is there any need for them?

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icle pic of them.
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: mk2mark on 28 August 2007, 10:47
Not really.
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: Gambit on 28 August 2007, 11:03
just buy new ones they aint expensive

and if they werent any use they wouldnt be on there in the first place ;)
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: gsn1978 on 28 August 2007, 11:20
you will need them for MOT i think, also it stops your calapers and disks and pads from picking up stones, road rubbish, Oil from your enginey, rain water and all others kinds of rubbish, if you take them off you will run the risk of squeeky brakes, and could also affect your brake proformance with them getting wet and or oil on them..... :shocked:

in theory your wheels protect the outer side and that plate protects the inner bit....
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: Simon8v91 on 28 August 2007, 13:35
just buy new ones they aint expensive

and if they werent any use they wouldnt be on there in the first place ;)

Agree.

If its the front they are suprisingly cheap from VW about £5.  The rears are nearer £12 each.

Dont take any chances with your brakes   :smiley:

When you change them take your time, the bolts holding them on can be very corroded.
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 28 August 2007, 15:22
just buy new ones they aint expensive

and if they werent any use they wouldnt be on there in the first place ;)

is that like the heater bypass valve?  :grin:
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: Gambit on 28 August 2007, 17:36
just buy new ones they aint expensive

and if they werent any use they wouldnt be on there in the first place ;)

is that like the heater bypass valve?  :grin:

bypass valves werent there to begin with ;) they where an after thought!! a pointless after though/quick fix
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: helios on 26 September 2007, 11:29
Had a go at the splash guards at the weekend and what a b!tch.Ended up cutting them off and leaving the old bolts still in as the are completly corroded.Any sugestions how to remove them,will I just have to drill them out?
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: Simon8v91 on 26 September 2007, 15:58
Had a go at the splash guards at the weekend and what a b!tch.Ended up cutting them off and leaving the old bolts still in as the are completly corroded.Any sugestions how to remove them,will I just have to drill them out?

Is it the front or rear? (I noticed you posted in the other thread as well)

Here is how I would tackle it.

1) Clean up bolt head and surroundings as best as possible
2) Soak in penetrating oil / release oil / WD-40
3) tap arround the bolt head were it contacts the hub with a cold chisel to break any seal the corrosion may have formed
4) Soak in penetrating oil and leave for a cup of tea
5) Using a spanner, socket (or grips if rounded) try and remove the bolt
6) Try an impact driver if the heads are not rounded by now
7) Try heating with a propane / butane flame paint stripper (with care to surrounding components).  You usually have to heat them hard to shift them.  When hot try steps 5) and 6) again
8) if no joy then you have a choice of soaking again overnight with oil or getting more serious

you will need good quality tools for the next steps....

9) drill into the bolts (or through it if you know whats behind with a small sharp drill to make a pilot hole that is perpendicualr to the bolt
10) use larger drills then have a go with an "easy out"
11) If still no joy use succesively larger drill until you are close to the threads. Use a chisel (or drill the bolts head off - you can do this earlier if you like) to smash the bolt head off and with a bit of luck the remaining bolt in the threads will collapes with persuasion.
12) If not you could send a threading tool into the hole to chase out the remaining bolt.
13) failing this you will have to drill it out and use a helicoil

When putting new bolts in use some copper grease to help stop this in the future

Hope this helps  :smiley:
Title: Re: Disk brake splash guard
Post by: helios on 26 September 2007, 17:59
Front and rear I am afraid,will give them a good go at the weekend.Will start at one end and wont finish till I have it sorted.Looks like its a job for having patience.Thanks for the ideas, alot of info there.