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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: dabill on 26 August 2007, 10:59

Title: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 26 August 2007, 10:59
howdie!

made a trip to the local breakers yesterday, and found a rather minted example of an audi 80 sport in bright red and perfect condition... couldnt find a single thing wrong with it so im guessing internals to the engine were fubar...

anyhoo, took the interior door release handles which i'll post up later(look much better) and had a good scout around.

noticed the brakes. are the ones on the automatic 280mm ones cos they looked huuuge! if so, im guessing thhat they will bolt straight upto my 8v digi... is this true?

rob

oh yeah, if anyone wants anything of it then give me a shout... didnt have the vdo guages in or the sensors though...

Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Chris-White on 26 August 2007, 13:33
You'll need the hubs along with the calipers and carriers to bolt up to an 8v. Have a look at the calipers, cos they are potentially girling 60's on these cars (i could be wrong), if they are, they will be twin piston bad boys (ansd worth quite a bit).

You'll also be wanting a 22mm master cylinder.
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Gambit on 27 August 2007, 10:09
girling G60 calipers are not the twin piston ones. they are single piston

the calipers & carriers of the audi will fit up to your golf. the hubs will not, you will still need to find a set of late golf 16v hubs in order to run the 280mm setup

and yes replace the master cylinder with either a late 16v or vr6 item
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 27 August 2007, 11:06
so i'll need to get a 16v golf hub setup, and master cylinder... could i not use the mastercylinder off the audi?

if not, how much are the master cylinders for the 16v?

cheers

rob
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Chris-White on 27 August 2007, 11:23
girling G60 calipers are not the twin piston ones. they are single piston

they look twin piston to me  :wink:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300143290518&rd=1
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Gambit on 27 August 2007, 11:24
i wouldnt be using a 2nd hand master cylinder out of a scrapper EVER.

they are about £40 new from GSF & ECP etc

or check ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110127893081
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Gambit on 27 August 2007, 11:27
girling G60 calipers are not the twin piston ones. they are single piston

they look twin piston to me  :wink:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=020&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=300143290518&rd=1

the Girling 60's on mine are single piston, so unless they changed design at a certain date?!?!
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 27 August 2007, 13:09
well, i'll go up and have a looky, will see what they are.

need to go back cos i've now found out my gear knob has been put on very tight and rounded off so i cant get the bloody thing off...so gotta get some gear components.

isnt mk2 maintenence super fun!

Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: richard s on 27 August 2007, 20:48
where is the audi being broken
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 29 August 2007, 12:52
sorry richard, only just noticed your post!

car is located at wilf jays! near the morrisons off the parkway.

they have loads a VAG cars as i have now found out, has become my new home!
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: oak16 on 29 August 2007, 18:25
Girling 60 calipers are deffo twin piston. The brakes found on G60's are actually called girling 54's or 56's and these are the single piston type.
People often get the G60 and Girling 60 bits mixed up. Easy mistake to make.

HTH
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: oak16 on 29 August 2007, 18:28
Oh and by the way I have a Girling 60 twinpot setup in my garage. They were going on my valver until it was written off so I'm open to sensible offers for em.
Theyll make your MK2 stop on a penny!

Sorry for the shameless plug

Cheers
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 30 August 2007, 08:25
well i picked them up yesterday and they aint girling, they are lucas... oh well... but still, they are big bugg*rs! 280mm vented discs, looking for some 16v hubs now and some new pads and discs... might have to give rubjohnny a bell about the hubs :rolleyes:

cleaned them up and they look very smart, shamelessly though im gonna spray them matt red, but think it goes with the red detail and white on the car...shall see... pics to follow later tonight... :laugh:

soo hyper!

rob
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 30 August 2007, 15:37
just a thought, my 8v is a 1991 and i had a sneeky suspicion that the brakes were changed to 256mm on the later 8v... is this just me being hopeful that i wont need 16v hubs?

also, if anyone wants some 2nd hand 280mm 4x108 audi discs then give me a shout!

cheers,

rob

Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Mew on 30 August 2007, 15:40
I'm sure i have read before that the very late 8v's had separate hubs/carriers/calipers like the 16v set-up, but the disc size stayed at 239mm.

I may have imagined that though  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Gambit on 30 August 2007, 15:42
@oak16 - ur 100% correct. i was getting mixed up with the G60/G54 numbers!!

no mk2 8v's ever came with the 256mm setup from factory - and they all came with fixed carriers for 239mm setup
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 30 August 2007, 15:50
wonderbar! i will now make a trip to the beloved scrapyard! well, i'll ring em and get the mardy tw@ts to take em off for me... thanks for all ur wonderful and very knowledgable help gambit, duely noted.

rob
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: richard s on 30 August 2007, 21:06
try this guy he is called mat and he is down neepsend 07773606565
last time i was at jays they didnt have much in the way of mk2 stuff
how much did they charge you cos i heard they can be quite steep
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 31 August 2007, 08:22
for the caplipers, carriers and discs, gear knob .99 relay and a few other bits that found there way into my pockets, 50squid haha, not the cheapest, but got a half decent pair of pads, the brakes are mint and the discs are utterly useless now i know there PCD... 4x108!!!

anyhoo, the relay is propperly cool!

that guy, does he work for neepsend scrappers?

rob
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: Gambit on 31 August 2007, 09:50
£50 for calipers & carriers alone is a bargain
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: DarnPB on 31 August 2007, 10:37
I used to pay that for a second hand engine from the scrappers. Wow! Am I showing my age?? :shocked:
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 31 August 2007, 11:01
Quote
I used to pay that for a second hand engine from the scrappers. Wow! Am I showing my age??

yes... yes you are...
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: monkeyalan on 01 September 2007, 16:50
did you find a shift rod ?
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: richard s on 01 September 2007, 20:36
no i think its called vw spares he is round the corner from quarry motors
Title: Re: audi 80 sport brake setup...
Post by: dabill on 03 September 2007, 08:49
yeah i got a shift rod :grin: thank god, changed all the bushes and the ball housing and now it feels like a brand new gear set-up, especially with that new part that (i think) m4ark does... makes gear shifts sooo much tighter and responsive, its a pleasure to drive now hahaha.

got the brakes all sprayed up, turns out they are the exact same ones off a g60 (lucas ones?!?!) well, if they aint, they take the same pads and discs  :grin: cant be bad... got them sprayed up and laqured and they looking pretty cool, calipers red, carriers black. matches in quite well with the bodywork. just got to order the vented and grooved discs and get some 16v hubs and im a happy bunny!

might be a while, just paid for a holiday so skint now.

oh well

thanks for advice people!

rob