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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: junglebunny on 22 August 2007, 15:55

Title: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: junglebunny on 22 August 2007, 15:55
My car's just come out of the garage and has failed it's MOT. I need to get quite a bit of welding done on the subframe. Instead of getting the welding done (been quoted £250), I'm considering getting a new/second hand one. I was just wondering if anyone could advise me on how easy/hard it is to replace the subframe and how much I would probably be looking at to buy one?

Many Thanks
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: rowlers on 22 August 2007, 18:21
piece of p|ss. About 6 bolts, support engine with a gearbox stand. remove engine mounts (left and right hand ones). Steering rack bolts. drop subframe off and bolt backup. HArdest part was getting the engine mouns to align back up. I done this on my own in under 2 hours at my mate garage, and hadn't done it before. The 2nd hand subframe cost me £35! And labour was free cos I done it myself!

The only thing is the captive nuts that the subframe bolts into can shear off..
This means cutting holes in the floor and weldsing the nuts back down, then weld the floor back up etc... I didn't have this problem fortunately!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Steering-Rack-Subframe-N-S-Suspension_W0QQitemZ330158330042QQihZ014QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Steering-Rack-Subframe-N-S-Suspension_W0QQitemZ330158330042QQihZ014QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: junglebunny on 23 August 2007, 08:53
Thanks, thats a great help. I just need to track a subframe down now, fast. Cheers for the e-bay link.
I'll let you all know how I get on.

Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: VW_valver on 23 August 2007, 18:05
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Steering-Rack-Subframe-N-S-Suspension_W0QQitemZ330158330042QQihZ014QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Volkswagen-Golf-Steering-Rack-Subframe-N-S-Suspension_W0QQitemZ330158330042QQihZ014QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Hope this helps!

That subframe is for a 2001 Golf...surely they arent the same?  :huh:

Cheers,
Andy
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: junglebunny on 31 August 2007, 09:18
I ordered a subframe off the web, it turned up last night but the've only gone and sent me one for a Mark 1.
Not a happy bunny.
 :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: junglebunny on 31 August 2007, 11:50
I think it's a Mark 1 one. It's not as wide in the middle and the ends arn't wide enough. I phoned up this morning and the guy assured me it was for a Mark 2, but it doesn't look any thing like the one on there already. Arn't all Mark 2 subframes meant to be the same.
I'm confused, can anyone help.
I need an MOT.
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: weazgti on 31 August 2007, 12:07
mine might have that problem one of the bolts turns half turn left and right cant do it up cant get it out.sub frame knocks all the time need to sort it but dont know how
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: Gambit on 31 August 2007, 14:36
mark 1's dont have a subframe...

@weazgti - u need to get the captive nut on the chassis welded again as it has broke the welds. its a floor carpet up & hole cut in floor to gain access to nut. so u need to find someone local who's done it before really
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: Mew on 31 August 2007, 15:30
Those captive nut issue is scaring me now. I just hope mine is fine when i come to take my subframe off in a week or so  :undecided:
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: DarnPB on 31 August 2007, 15:35
Lots of penetrating oil and a gentle continuous progressive undo should see you ok. If its snatched or graunched, then it's 'oh oh. Bugger!' :angry:
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: junglebunny on 05 September 2007, 16:36
mark 1's dont have a subframe...

I found out now it was the engine member I got sent, I wanted the cross member(lower subframe)

I just want an MOT
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: cняis on 05 September 2007, 20:12

The only thing is the captive nuts that the subframe bolts into can shear off..
This means cutting holes in the floor and weldsing the nuts back down, then weld the floor back up etc... I didn't have this problem fortunately!

Mine had this problem when i bought it, it cost about £85 for my local garage to repair.
Title: Re: Subframe - new or repair
Post by: Mew on 16 September 2007, 12:42
Those captive nut issue is scaring me now. I just hope mine is fine when i come to take my subframe off in a week or so  :undecided:

Well in the end it wasn't the captive nut that sheared for me, but the actual bolt  :sad: