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General => General discussion => Topic started by: T_J_G on 02 August 2007, 20:35
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Give me reasons for and against getting one, over my mk2 GTI (that i can't afford to keep)
Hopefully it'll be a 3 door, but would consider 5....
Bear in mind i'm 19 year old student.
Becasue they're GT's do they have any 'uprated' parts...
Tim
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How come you can't afford to keep the Mk2 GTi, but can afford a Mk4 ?
Even if you have to spend say £500 to keep the Mk2 on the road, that's still less than the 3 or 4k a Mk4 will cost you.
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not sure about the 110/115 GT versions and i think its only the trim level you get over the non GT's
the 130 and 150 had sport suspension (150 has same as 1.8T) except they are both group 13 which i expect is why you're looking at the 110/115
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not sure about the 110/115 GT versions and i think its only the trim level you get over the non GT's
the 130 and 150 had sport suspension (150 has same as 1.8T) except they are both group 13 which i expect is why you're looking at the 110/115
130 doesn't have the sport suspension as standard :sad:
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130 doesn't have the sport suspension as standard :sad:
my mistake i thought they did
heres a link to parkers which give you the list of options for the 115 6 speed
parkers (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/equipment.aspx?deriv=21194)
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How come you can't afford to keep the Mk2 GTi, but can afford a Mk4 ?
Even if you have to spend say £500 to keep the Mk2 on the road, that's still less than the 3 or 4k a Mk4 will cost you.
Well I could do that, but i think I want a newer car with a few more luxuries(air con/heaters that work/electrics..). My mk2 has no luxuies everything is non-electric and so on.
I've looked at insurace on the 130's and i'm not ruling them out just yet.
Tanks
Tim
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isnt a mk2 digi gti group 13? so insurance would be simular to a mk4 gttdi130, only thing that would majorly effect it would be the worth of the mk4...
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isnt a mk2 digi gti group 13? so insurance would be simular to a mk4 gttdi130, only thing that would majorly effect it would be the worth of the mk4...
Yeah you're right mate. Insurance is a bit more.
Saying that the 150 BHP TDI's are registering as 130's with my insurer so i could afford one of those... :smiley: a 150 BHP diesel would be perfect.
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If you can get the 150 GT TDi go for it! I hear they are good.
I am struggling to belive that an insurance company would list a 150 TDi the same as the 130 TDi. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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If you can get the 150 GT TDi go for it! I hear they are good.
I am struggling to belive that an insurance company would list a 150 TDi the same as the 130 TDi. Someone correct me if im wrong.
I've ran 3-4 seperate registration through and that'sthe case, unless all of them are lying about their cars :huh:
I may look into the 130/150's as with a remap there isn't much to seperate them. :smiley:
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I am struggling to belive that an insurance company would list a 150 TDi the same as the 130 TDi. Someone correct me if im wrong.
quite a few of the companies struggle to distinguish between the 130 and the 150 i think this is down to the DVLA database or something. when i was looking to insure mine, some companies would show it as a 130 others would give you a drop down and others would know its the 150
both are group 13 but except they are different levels.
If you can get the 150 GT TDi go for it! I hear they are good.
if you can afford to insure it then go for it!
most 150's will have most of the toys as the people that bought them new, had the money to tick most of the boxes, and most stuff can be retro-fitted. the only problem with the 150 is going to be finding one in your price range.
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I may look into the 130/150's as with a remap there isn't much to seperate them. :smiley:
yeah you can easily get the 130 upto the same level as the 150, but obviously the 150 will have further scope for mods
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both are group 13 but except they are different levels.
i thought that the 150 was group 15 :undecided: it was when i was looking for mine hence why i went for the 130 as it was cheaper to insure.
Any of the TDI's are good buys; the 115, 130 and 150 offer the better tuning potential.
but the 130 is the one to go for :wink:
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Acording toWhatCar? the 150 and 130 are group 14. Can't work that one out as mine is also group 14, only has 115bhp and has no turbo? Wheres the logic in that?
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both are group 13 but except they are different levels.
i thought that the 150 was group 15 :undecided: it was when i was looking for mine hence why i went for the 130 as it was cheaper to insure.
Any of the TDI's are good buys; the 115, 130 and 150 offer the better tuning potential.
but the 130 is the one to go for :wink:
hmm..it maybe. Spose i'd have to higher my budget but that's not really a problem. So i can get a similarly fast car, with better fuel economy and tax insred less than the 20vT route :smiley: although the 20vT is still an option. But i think i may aswell get a diesel for the reasons above.
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Acording toWhatCar? the 150 and 130 are group 14. Can't work that one out as mine is also group 14, only has 115bhp and has no turbo? Wheres the logic in that?
yeah just seen that, parkers says they are both 13 and what car is saying 14 :undecided:
yours is going to be 14 becuase of the GTI badge, for example the megan dci 130 is group 9 where as the GT TDI 130 is 13/14 just becuase its GT
hmm..it maybe. Spose i'd have to higher my budget but that's not really a problem. So i can get a similarly fast car, with better fuel economy and tax insred less than the 20vT route :smiley: although the 20vT is still an option. But i think i may aswell get a diesel for the reasons above.
whats your daily mileage like? if you only do a few mlies a day you could afford to run the 1.8T
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yours is going to be 14 becuase of the GTI badge
Just another excuse to squeeze more money out of us . . :(
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I don't know my daily mileage, i would say i do 150 a week-ish (maybe less)
But the tax,insurance, running costs are igher on the petrol ones....and if i'm paying a bit more on insurance with the TDI i want somethig to save on (tax&fuel)
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only think is you have to take into account the servicing with the diesel.
on mine every 20K is a major ~ £200, the 10K is oil and filter which i do myself ~ £50
don't know what the servicing is like on the petrols, but understand the diesels are more frequent
at the moment diesel is between ranges from being 1p cheaper to 1p more than petrol. My weekly driving is about 90% motorway / A road so i can easily get 500+ from a tank, i think the 1.8T's do about 300 tops.
dubiously you'll save on tax too
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Servicing won't be a problem as my mate works in an independant VAG garage :cool:
Thik diesel will work out for me and maybe go petrol when i get my degree and a good job!
Tim
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Servicing won't be a problem as my mate works in an independant VAG garage :cool:
which garage is that? if its local might have to check it out next time
IMO diesel is the way forward, with the 150 you get practically the same performance as the 1.8T 150 and the same trim, yeah it might not handle as well becuase of the derv lump but you can go an extra 200 odd miles.
and handling can always be address.
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Servicing won't be a problem as my mate works in an independant VAG garage :cool:
which garage is that? if its local might have to check it out next time
IMO diesel is the way forward, with the 150 you get practically the same performance as the 1.8T 150 and the same trim, yeah it might not handle as well becuase of the derv lump but you can go an extra 200 odd miles.
and handling can always be address.
Youngs in Wrotham, Gasoline Alley. It's opposite the Moat pub and next to the Petrol garage. guy that runs it (Nick) has helped me out alot.
Well if i buy a mk4 the first thing are some coilovers and an ARB :laugh:
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Youngs in Wrotham, Gasoline Alley
thought you'd say there, that's actually where i took mine for the 80K :cool:
Well if i buy a mk4 the first thing are some coilovers and an ARB :laugh:
then the re-map yeah?
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Think the map will wait for a bit,get used to the power and the when i get bored i'll map it.
Well you probably met my best mate matt then the young guy that works there :smiley: Had a white mk2 16v,thena silver 1.4 16v 6n Polo now got a mk3 TDI.
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I have never been a disel fan, but all this talk of desiel and performance is giving me doubts. Getting a 1.8T in April, but now you got me thinking about the 150 GT TDI and a remap. . . . .
Hummmm . . Well, its not till April anyway so.
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Well you probably met my best mate matt then the young guy that works there :smiley: Had a white mk2 16v,thena silver 1.4 16v 6n Polo now got a mk3 TDI.
only really met nick, who was pretty sound!
but now you got me thinking about the 150 GT TDI and a remap. . . . .
Hummmm . . Well, its not till April anyway so.
still time to turn you to the Dark Pump!
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buy a 150 :wink: what if insurence would insure it as a 110 :grin:thats after i read the registration and recieved the paper confermation threw the post and im only 18 :cool: