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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: jonathonturner on 30 July 2007, 10:22

Title: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: jonathonturner on 30 July 2007, 10:22
just been to drop my car off for its cruise/parking sensor install( i had to tell them about the 150 quid offer on the cruise...they orignally tried to sell it me for 230 quid fitted) and noticed ipod controller on offer, so thought why not...

asked about how it controls it and the sales manager dude says, 'its full ipod control through your head unit'..told him i had nav and he said cool, no problem.I asked him was he sure and he said yes.....

i asked him to show it me working and he only had a golf match with ipod in it, so we pluggged it in....full contol my arse...all it would bring up was track number...no name, track title, f**k all....

fistly the guy got on my tits by trying to blag it( he conceded at the end he didnt know a great deal about it)...

so now i'm f**ked off cos i want full ipod control through my nav and cant have it...

or can i?

anyone got any ideas?
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Rhyso on 30 July 2007, 10:29
after market H/U is the only way I'm afraid.

VW have been pretty slow in taking up full iPOD functionality and MP3 players in general
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Russ.C on 30 July 2007, 10:31
don't think its possible with the standard vw head units. I have Ipod in armrest, and all I get is track numbers, and all you can select is playlists 1-6 that are represented as CDs 1-6. So you cant actually choose albums from the headunit, only the first 6 playlists.
If you do want a particular album, just remove Ipod, start playing album you want on ipod, reconnect it and it will play that album, you can skip through tracks as you want on that album - bit of a pain, but no worse than changing a CD! HTH.  :smiley:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: 2007GTI on 30 July 2007, 10:39
thats right VW don't do full ipod control with their headunits, their cable just tricks the headunit into thinking the ipod is a 6 disc CD changer, only aftermarket like Kenwood or Pioneer do can display track names and pictures etc.

In fact its only 5 playlists, as track 6 is the entire library.
 :nerd:


Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Russ.C on 30 July 2007, 10:45

In fact its only 5 playlists, as track 6 is the entire library.
 :nerd:



Yeah your right, I stand corrected!  :nerd:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 30 July 2007, 10:58
I had the Harman Kardon drive and play installed, pretty discrete and is true 'full control' of your ipod. Loads of places doing it for £50 as well which IMO is a bargain.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: PabloGTI on 30 July 2007, 11:47
I had the Harman Kardon drive and play installed, pretty discrete and is true 'full control' of your ipod. Loads of places doing it for £50 as well which IMO is a bargain.

Where did you install it? Did you DIY it or pro install. Pics appreciated...
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 30 July 2007, 12:12
I had the Harman Kardon drive and play installed, pretty discrete and is true 'full control' of your ipod. Loads of places doing it for £50 as well which IMO is a bargain.

Where did you install it? Did you DIY it or pro install. Pics appreciated...

I had it installed but have since had it out when I retro fitted my MFD2. It connects to the cd changer port via a 'connect2' box. You select tracks via the small wheel which mirrors the way the ipod wheel works and all the track/search info appears on the small screen which I had installed behind the big vent on the dash top. So far most peoples reaction has been that they didnt realise VW installed such cool stuff as standard, I have to point out its not a VW piece of kit. The screen is backlit blue and the actual plastics are the same tone of grey as the interior so its defo a good fit. Whats also good is you can still change the volume/mute from the steering wheel too without needing any extra kit.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: jonathonturner on 30 July 2007, 12:13
mint!

and where do we get said bit of kit from?
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 30 July 2007, 12:16
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HARMON-KARDON-DRIVE-AND-PLAY-In-Car-Ipod-Solution_W0QQitemZ230155993502QQihZ013QQcategoryZ58350QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Im sure Ive seen it in Halfrauds at £50 too and I think Motorworld have it on special at £50 at the minute too. Youd need the connects2 box as well, not sure on cost for that.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 30 July 2007, 12:25
Youd need this too...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Connects2-CTVVGX004-Aux-Adapter-VW_W0QQitemZ220080403596QQihZ012QQcategoryZ14932QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Still a bargain as the drive and play was £150 on its own when I had it done. Incidentally if you hold on a few months and have some more £Â£Ã‚£ to spend they are releasing version 2 which incudes a better quality screen but also full bluetooth mobile integration.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: AlanH on 30 July 2007, 19:09
If you're looking for full iPod functionality and control, you might want to consider one of these new Alpine units: http://www.audio66.co.uk/product.asp?id=5592&cat=26&man=1&main=1&userid=&firstsel=cat&variation= (http://www.audio66.co.uk/product.asp?id=5592&cat=26&man=1&main=1&userid=&firstsel=cat&variation=)
I had one of these installed in my Ed30 a couple of weeks ago (although not from this supplier) and I'm very pleased with it.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Russ.C on 30 July 2007, 19:21
got a picture of it installed alanh? interested to see how it fits.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 30 July 2007, 19:45
I just cant picture how a single din unit will look good on the golf dash. Willing to be persuaded though!
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: jonathonturner on 30 July 2007, 21:05
want to keep it as oem as poss....

think i'll wait and see what happens with vw over the next onth or three...

Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: AlanH on 30 July 2007, 21:06
No pics at present - sorry. Will try and take some at the weekend. The Alpine is installed in a Golf single DIN adapter with a cubby hole below the Alpine for sunglasses etc. Audio quality is very good.
Edit: found this pic from p3eps installation of the same Alpine unit (halfway down the page):
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=61474.20
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Ridg on 30 July 2007, 22:43
The Alpine is installed in a Golf single DIN adapter with a cubby hole below the Alpine for sunglasses etc. Audio quality is very good.

i've actually got the Alpine and ipod controller in mine too.

if you want full control and decent quality sound then get an alpine HU with Ai-net and the KCA-420i
you can sort music directly from the HU by playlist, album, artist individual tracks are easy to find as you get the alpine "search" / quick list functionality

only downside i'd say is that cycle through the list using glide touch is bit slow for me, but then i guess you are meant to be watching the road and not your playlists.

if you want to keep it OEM then your other option is to get a double din unit that can take a full speed interface, i know you've got sat nav already but you could easily sell that on.

Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: 2007GTI on 31 July 2007, 00:21
Single DIN with cubby hole equals one thing: Mk IV  :sick:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Ridg on 31 July 2007, 01:19
Single DIN with cubby hole equals one thing: Mk IV  :sick:

lol just as well its down to personally opinion then. 

whilst the OEM sat nav might look smart the functionality and sound quality is rubbish in comparison to a top end head unit and after market sat nav.

if you've not already seen it this thread might help

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=62026.msg481099#msg481099

Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 31 July 2007, 09:06
Single DIN with cubby hole equals one thing: Mk IV  :sick:

lol just as well its down to personally opinion then. 

whilst the OEM sat nav might look smart the functionality and sound quality is rubbish in comparison to a top end head unit and after market sat nav.

if you've not already seen it this thread might help

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=62026.msg481099#msg481099



As soon as someone starts ebaying that in the UK it will be hard to resist, especially as you just drop it sraight in (although I think any CD changer earths need swapping but thats no biggy)
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Hatrick on 31 July 2007, 09:35
Fitted an Alpine W202R to my ED30 a few weeks ago as the OEM ipod control was so poor, would never have ordered it if I knew exactly how it functioned.  Have to say that even though it was quite expensive, the features this unit offers are excellent, ipod control is nearly identical to your ipod screen except that instead of a scroll wheel you have a scroll bar and quick jumps along the bottom.  The bluetooth interface is also good, displays a touchscreen dialer along with phonebook, missed calls, dialled calls etc..  Was apprehensive about spending the anount of money on this unit however have no regrets now!! :smiley:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Russ.C on 31 July 2007, 09:39
that looks very nifty, I assume it came with the moulded surround?
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 31 July 2007, 09:43
I was tempted to go aftermarket double din but the cost is crazy if you want sat nav as well. Ended up with an MFD2 DVD for £400 as a make weight until this RNS-510 hits ebay which looks immense. 
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: 2007GTI on 31 July 2007, 09:46
Single DIN with cubby hole equals one thing: Mk IV  :sick:

lol just as well its down to personally opinion then. 

whilst the OEM sat nav might look smart the functionality and sound quality is rubbish in comparison to a top end head unit and after market sat nav.

if you've not already seen it this thread might help

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=62026.msg481099#msg481099



I have seen the new RNS 510, so whats your point exactly?  Even more reason not to put a pony single DIN in isn't it?  :evil:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: duzza on 31 July 2007, 09:50
I personally think the nav from the MFD2 is better than my tomtom unit replaced by some way.
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: Hatrick on 31 July 2007, 09:51
The moulded surround was fitted by the dealer, it came with a cheap plastic one but looked nowhere near as good, was very impressed with how it turned out :smiley:
Title: Re: I=Pod control - am i right or wrong?
Post by: 2007GTI on 31 July 2007, 10:37
The moulded surround was fitted by the dealer, it came with a cheap plastic one but looked nowhere near as good, was very impressed with how it turned out :smiley:

looks wicked!  :grin: