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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Rog on 27 July 2007, 09:19

Title: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Rog on 27 July 2007, 09:19
    Yesterday whilst wating for the other half at the doc's I was going through the waiting room magazines which are usually a pile of sh1te, but obviously GP's massive pay increases these days aren't all bad as they've obviously got more dosh to spend on things - like cars! As a  result the magazine table was covered in Autocar and Evo mags which makes a nice change.  Looking through a recent copy of Evo (which I don't normally read - but wiil now do so!) they were comparing  different fuels using a standard 197 bhp Gti.  Basically according to them BP ultimate (although I think it's only 97 RON) was making the Gti pump out 212 bhp with big increases in torque, next best and almost as good was Tesco 99 RON then it was Shell Optimax followed by the other majors.
    I wonder what we could expect from the old 'R' and '30' on BP Ultimax if thats this case? I use Shell Optimax at the moment but I wiil now stick to BP or Tesco - depending on which one of the locals I'm driving past and with Tesco 'every little helps'! :smiley:
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: AlanD on 27 July 2007, 09:24
If memory serves that was quite a long time ago. I remember it tho, was an interesting read.

EVO is the best car mag by the way, what ever it says is right lol.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 27 July 2007, 09:59
When I was talking to AMD a year or so ago, they reconed most GTi's had around 208 BHP straight out the box.   :cool:
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: NORTHERNER on 27 July 2007, 13:35
None of the Tesco's by me have the 99ron stuff  :rolleyes:
Engine seems to run well on Optimax though... will have to try the BP stuff soon.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Simon8v91 on 27 July 2007, 13:48
Went to Santa Pod GTI Fest last month which is 100+ miles from home.  MFA recorded 40.9 mpg going using Sainsburys Super UL.  Filled up with BP ultimate before coming home at the same average speed and got 44.1 mpg.  Car does run a little smoother but that could be physcological  :wink:

Not scientific, but I thinks its good stuff  :smiley:
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: AlanD on 27 July 2007, 14:05
Yes, im sure this has been talked about already, these "super" fules to give more MPG, but then again you are paying quite a bit more per liter for it.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Robin on 27 July 2007, 22:26
If memory serves me right, someone on here pointed out that the test was using Shell Optimax which was 97 RON, since then Shell have changed to V-Power which is 99 RON. Clever bit of marketing by BP perhaps.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: RedRobin on 28 July 2007, 09:25
When I was talking to AMD a year or so ago, they reconed most GTi's had around 208 BHP straight out the box.   :cool:

....I would take that with a large pinch of salt. Most Mk5 GTI's plotting 197 bhp on a rolling road is much more the case.

Also, gaining as much as 12 bhp just from (non racing) fuel, without even hardware mods such as intake and exhaust, is bollox in my opinion. 
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: gooseuk on 28 July 2007, 17:03
Thats intresting. I put some bp stuff in today. And i think its a bit quicker.

Bp is jungle juice must be.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: AlanD on 28 July 2007, 20:16
Um bongo Um bongo they drink it in the Congo . .
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 27 August 2007, 11:50
Me suspects they were using this stuff: http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?categoryId=6621&contentId=7017179
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2007, 12:18
When I was talking to AMD a year or so ago, they reconed most GTi's had around 208 BHP straight out the box.   :cool:

....And when my GTI showed 197 bhp on AmD's rolling road a year or so ago they told me they reckoned most GTI's had around 197 bhp straight out the box - Draw your own conclusions. It's many years since AmD were considered one of the best.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: AlanD on 27 August 2007, 14:46
Me suspects they were using this stuff: http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?categoryId=6621&contentId=7017179

Wow! thats some mad juice!

"On a high performance, turbo charged vehicle, with boost pressure increased, the power benefits seen included an increase in maximum power of 37 bhp (8.6%), and as much as 60 bhp (16%) at some points in the engine speed range."
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2007, 15:46
....Unfortunately very limited availability. What sort of cost I wonder.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: mike. on 27 August 2007, 17:30
From previous posts, it was £2.40 per litre  :shocked:

Only £132 for a tank  :grin:
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: RedRobin on 27 August 2007, 18:18
....Okay for track days but taking the p!ss for everyday road use!
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: AlanD on 28 August 2007, 08:27
Using 102 RON for everyday driving is a little exsesive in my book.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 August 2007, 16:50
When I was talking to AMD a year or so ago, they reconed most GTi's had around 208 BHP straight out the box.   :cool:

....And when my GTI showed 197 bhp on AmD's rolling road a year or so ago they told me they reckoned most GTI's had around 197 bhp straight out the box - Draw your own conclusions. It's many years since AmD were considered one of the best.

I've heard that the reputation of AmD have been going down hill, ever since they were bought out by BigBoysToys - so much so, that a couple of the founding members of AmD have left and started a new company.
Title: Re: 212 bhp from a standard Gti on BP Ultimate.
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 30 August 2007, 16:51
Me suspects they were using this stuff: http://www.bp.com/genericsection.do?categoryId=6621&contentId=7017179

Wow! thats some mad juice!

"On a high performance, turbo charged vehicle, with boost pressure increased, the power benefits seen included an increase in maximum power of 37 bhp (8.6%), and as much as 60 bhp (16%) at some points in the engine speed range."

That ^^^^ is the crucial bit.  You need a remap, specifically tailored for the 102 RON brew, in order to achieve those power increases.