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Title: DIY Respray
Post by: mattoligy on 25 July 2007, 10:41
Was thinking about giving a few panels a respray but as its so expensive i was thinking about giving it a go myself  :undecided:

Theres a kit here on eBay with a gun and compressor http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professional-Spray-Gun-Compressor-KIT-HSS472S09_W0QQitemZ300132657638QQihZ020QQcategoryZ30923QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Professional-Spray-Gun-Compressor-KIT-HSS472S09_W0QQitemZ300132657638QQihZ020QQcategoryZ30923QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Has anyone got any advise on where to get paint and how to do a good job, if someone knows of a guide on the net somewhere please let me know... :smiley:

Matt.
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: Len on 25 July 2007, 10:46
Keeping everything clean and dust free is always the problem.
Also getting the paint to match.
Try google House of Kolor for paint.
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: bomp on 25 July 2007, 12:15
Nah, that compressor is pants I reckon. It's prolly ok for airbrushing.

Focus DIY are selling some compressors ATM http://www.focusdiy.co.uk/invt/195672 I am considering getting one myself, as I think this one should be ok for spraying, 24 Litre tank, 1.5HP motor, tank pressure dial-regulator, pipeline/gun pressure dial-regulator.

You can get air tools at Machinemart, sprayguns/hoses/inline air filters.

There is someone on these boards that knows his stuff about spraying, (think the user name is greendragon or something, so he might be good to ask for advice on spray painting)
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: Organisys on 25 July 2007, 12:40
Personally I'd work some overtime or something. It will look poop if you attempt it yourself.

Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: phil88 on 25 July 2007, 13:27
its all about practice, like bomp said that compresser will run out of air in no time, you are recommended to a compresser with a hp of 2 or higher, but it should be able to be done with one at 1.5.

for the gun id go for something like this,

(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/00/000510005.jpg?)
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/pro-12c-spray-gun/path/spray-guns-spraying-equipment-air-brushes

and the compressor

(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/00/000110840.jpg?)
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/tiger-840-air-compressor/path/diy-semi-professional-air-compressors-2

hose
(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/00/000125610.jpg?)
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/rh15-rubber-airline-hose-8mm-15-metre/path/air-line-equipment-air-hose

filter

(http://www.machinemart.co.uk/images/library/product/medium/00/000120550.jpg?)
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cmf1-mini-filter/path/air-line-equipment-air-hose

i believe thats all you need for equipment

next you need a clean dust free location to spray, when i spray mine im going to get load of clear plastic sheeting and build my own spray booth with some scaffolding. but if you have a clean garage with not much in it that would be sutable. Remove anything that collects dust, got round cleaning the floor/walls/celing with the vacumn cleaner, and maybe even paint the floor.

preperation is everything, im not gonna go into this much, theres loads on info on the net,

[stolen from http://www.citroen-restoration.co.uk/ds/painting.php ]

Remove all old paint if unsure about metal underneath. Otherwise flat old paint.
Use filler to correct any low spots in the panel. You may need to repeat this step a numer of times to get the panel flat.
Sand entire panel with 400grit sandpaper until all old paint is feathered and filler is perfectly flat.
Apply a coat of etch primer to any bare metal; this is a special primer which will burn itself into the metal and ensure that the paint sticks to it.
Apply 2-3 coats of Primer Filler. This is a high-build primer which will help hide any smaller imperfections.
Flat primer filler with 600grit paper. Apply more coats as neccessary.
Examine panel and use stopper on any tiny imperfections, e.g scratches or chips. Stopper is a product similar to filler, except that it is much smoother and easier to sand. Look for the 1K stopper, which comes in a tube and doesn't need hardenener; it's much easier to use!
Flat all stopper and apply a futher coat of primer (normal primer would do here)
Flat panel with 800 grit paper, this will give a perfectly smooth surface for painting
Apply a guide coat. This is a very thin coat of dark paint, usually you would use an aerosol of dark blue for this. (Black takes longer to sand apparently)
Flat the guide coat back, this will reveal any imperfections you missed in the earlier stages. Repeat above steps until panel is perfect
Ready for painting!

the paint you want to be using is cellulose, i havnt try getting any yet, but i think its avalible at your local motor factors. there are other paints, but there harder to use/more expensive and deadly

hope that helps. if anyone has sprayed a car and know differently lettly know, cheers
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: e11ie on 25 July 2007, 16:45
I found a good site when I had to de-rust my tailgate!

http://www.repairnation.com/index.html (http://www.repairnation.com/index.html)

I just used a spray can, the colour was fine but the laquer was a bit nasty. Can only really tell when its clean and that aint often!  :wink: But I wouldn't recommend it if you want an un-noticable job, looks better than rust and primer though  :grin:
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: converge on 09 September 2007, 22:23
you wanna hvlp gun really, also wet the floor before you paint and brush it around - keeps the dust down.
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: BobbyT on 10 September 2007, 00:33
Personally I'd work some overtime or something. It will look poop if you attempt it yourself.



a mate re-spryed his clio 16v him self and made a really good job - its all down to the prep!  :smiley:
Title: Re: DIY Respray
Post by: BobbyT on 10 September 2007, 00:34
fair one he has a big barn to do the work and all the kit!  :smiley: