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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: glynnd on 22 July 2007, 11:37
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Just picked up some LED side lights for the GTi and they come on briefly only to go off again? I had them on my Z4 and TT previous to that, with no real problems, however on the BMW the warming light came on due to lack of resistance offered - hence the car thought a bulb had popped.
Has anyone else mod'd the lights? The standard sides are usless and 6 LEDs are so much better - in fact in the summer you only need the head lights in bad weather or very late at night.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Glynn :undecided:
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This link might give you some leads to solving your problem:
http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1187430/an/0/page/1#1187430 (http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1187430/an/0/page/1#1187430)
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I was going to post the link to my thread over there, but you already have :smiley:
The value of resistors I used 'should' work on the sidelight circuit as well, but I have not tried them yet myself. Mainly because I dont have zenons so dont have a burning need for white LEDs.
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glynnd, I thought your TSN thread was about interior footwell lights. Aren't you referring to LED exterior sidelights here? (like the latest Audi and BMW 'daytime driving lights').
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The OP at TSN was dogbucket regarding footwell lights. Glynnd was asking about side lights. However dogbucket's resistor solution could work for glynnd. Do keep up :nerd:
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The OP at TSN was dogbucket regarding footwell lights. Glynnd was asking about side lights. However dogbucket's resistor solution could work for glynnd. Do keep up :nerd:
....If I'm to keep up I obviously need some more mods on my car! :wink:. Twas a case of being in too much of a hurry and not reading the thread properly.
It would be great if someone could produce a solution. Hella produce a LED 'driving light' which fits the foglight hole for the Mk5 Golf but not for the Mk5 GTI :sad:. Passat style rear lights would be good too.
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The resistor solution will work, but unlike my footwell mod would require a resistor on both sides.
The only issue as I mentioned in my TSN thread is that the resistor packs sold by car LED suppliers are simulating something like a 20W load and will get very very hot. The value of resistor I chose is just enough to fool the circuit and just gets a bit warm.
iirc somebody is making an LED rear light cluster for the mk5, was discussed on uk-mkvs. But I dont know how it defeats the bulb detection
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The resistor solution will work, but unlike my footwell mod would require a resistor on both sides.
The only issue as I mentioned in my TSN thread is that the resistor packs sold by car LED suppliers are simulating something like a 20W load and will get very very hot. The value of resistor I chose is just enough to fool the circuit and just gets a bit warm.
iirc somebody is making an LED rear light cluster for the mk5, was discussed on uk-mkvs. But I dont know how it defeats the bulb detection
May seem like a daft question, but could using vag-com defeat the bulb detection?
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quite possibly
my experiments generated some fault codes logged in the central electrics module so it knows what is going on. As newer models (like golf plus?) have LED lights now the module must be recoded to remove the bulb detection.
I dont know how this could be done though, I only do electronics not software :wink:
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Thanks for the all the responses / advice fellas - but this sounds very technical to a novice like me?!
DogBucket - am I to wire the resistors into the loom/circuit? (told you I was a novice!)
Read the thread from the link and sounds like a plan - now it's just putting it into practice :undecided: Anyone near Wilmslow?!
Looks like a diagramme is required - story of my life if you listen to the mrs!
More help please. Thanks again for taking the time to respond.
Glynn
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tbh unless you can solder I am not sure my resistor mod will be much good to you, as it will be necessary to solder some wire 'tails' to them so they can be scotch locked in parallel with the bulb holder.
If the above sentence made no sense to you then you might want to consider giving the whole thing a miss.
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The standard sides are usless and 6 LEDs are so much better - in fact in the summer you only need the head lights in bad weather or very late at night.
Erm, it is actually a legal requirement to use dipped headlights in bad weather, day or night. It is also a legal requirement to use dipped headlights during the dark, everywhere except when in a built up area (ie, a 30mph limit).
Common sense, and the saftey of other road users, should mean that side lights are ONLY used as parking lamps.
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On my recent European road trip I noticed that a couple of Mk5 GTI's on the autobahns, in bright sunny conditions, were using sidelights+fogs as 'daylight running lights' (drl's) and so I did the same. If you are travelling at a significantly faster speed than other traffic you need to be seen. Also you need to see those big RS4 Avants, Porsches etc bearing down on you fast when you are doing 130 mph! The new Audis, especially the A5 series, have fabulous LED drl's.
People in the UK seems to generally be against LED drl's but I see them as an excellent safety feature and they allow you to better judge the scale and therefore speed of the car in your rear view mirror because there is far less dazzle.
I spoke to Hella not that long ago because they produce an aftermarket replacement drl which fits the ordinairy Mk5 Golf's fogs position. But they don't fit the GTI - Duh! It's the faster Golfs that need them more!