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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: gib6107 on 18 July 2007, 12:48
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Are there any particular garages that do better diesel fuel than others?
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i use Total Excellium diesel; currently pay about 96.9p per litre; seem to get more miles and a little extra zoom.
not tried any others as BP and Shell aren't local! Plus BP are well expensive;p especially their Ultiamte diesel
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nice - got a total garage round the corner...ta.
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the total round my way don't tell it FFS :sad:
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I am near a total and bp stations. Total i prefar but they only sell normal diesel.
Bp are just rip off.
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I have been using Tesco diesel @ 93.9p per litre and get about 430 miles to a full tank (48 litres). That works out to be about 41mpg or 10.41 pence per mile.
I went to a BP garage recently and used the BP Ultimate diesel, this was 96.9p per litre but I got 500 miles out of a tank (again 48 litres). This works out as 47mpg or 9.90p per mile.
I know its only a fraction of a pence but I reckon BP is better for your car than the Tesco sh*te. I need to get a life too :laugh: :laugh:
p.s mine is a 130bhp
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i use asdas quite a bit just cos its cheap.i get bout 515 - 525 outta a full tank.mines a 110 gt tdi
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i use shell V power when i can if i have normal derv i put millers sport additive in
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i generally use either texaco, total (standard) or esso depending on which is nearest when i need to fill up. and will get on average 520 before the light comes on.
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i use asdas quite a bit just cos its cheap.i get bout 515 - 525 outta a full tank.mines a 110 gt tdi
hey guys, i have a 99 110bhp tdi and i only get about 420 out of a full tank before the light goes on. it seems as though im about 100 short off you guys? why could this be???? in 4 years of owning the car i have never seen it do anything close to 500!!!!
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depends how you drive, and what your driving consists of, i.e long motorway runs or short trips in town. most i've got is 550 a tank (gt tdi 130) that was a long motorway run and a little in town (sticking to 70 ish on mway)
mostly get around 420ish a tank (i drive like i stole it normally :wink:)
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my girlfriend drives it every morning bout 18 miles and its all dual carriageways so get good economy outta it.I filled up in total yesterday to try it, so i will find out at the end of the week and let u know.
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Bio diesel smells like a chippy but it's cheap and good for the environment or summat!
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Bio diesel smells like a chippy but it's cheap and good for the environment or summat!
i was going to start running bio in my pd but i heard stories that because of the high pressure injectors the slightest bit of dirt in the fuel can fook the injectors.
bio is a double edges sword because its cleaner than mineral as in lower emissions, its renewable, however the amount of land you need to grow the rape seed for it, could lead to world famine, as the amount of bio farms will out number the farms producing food.
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Shell Diesel Extra, currently 93.9ppl. Getting about 45-55 mpg, depending how I drive. Car's a Skoda Superb TDI 130.
Incidentially, anyone tried V-Power diesel? Run the petrol in our GTI and I cna't fault it for MPG and running. Wondered if the diesel variant was the same...?
Oh, and supermarket fuel? Remember the Tesco/Morrison's fuel saga not so long ago...?
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I'd like to know about v-power diesel aswell. Likewise, when I used the unleaded version in my petrol GTi I thought the performance was much better than using ordinary unleaded. Now I'm a TDI 150 convert I'd like to think the diesel version is as good. Anyone?
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bp ultimate diesel is the best in my opinion, as its got the highest cetane rating - its just bloody expensive.
burns better than any other, cleans and reduces smoke - check there website for facts.
however i now run on shell standard diesel, as bp ultimate is far too expensive now. and i havent noticed any power loss and im still getting the same mpg.
i use forte diesel treatment every 7000 miles as reccomended to me by brother whos a mechanic, this cleans the entire fuel system, valves etc and reduces emissions- (just add contents to three quarters of a tank of diesel - not a full tank as they suggest - its more concentrated this way)
i have been told that supermarket fuels come from the total/elf/greenergy refinerys at lincoln and pembrokeshire? so is say sainsburys/tesco etc diesel the same as total or elf diesel? :undecided: - it probably is though.
makes you wonder because there are only about 9 or 10 refinerys in the country.
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I have just used my 1st full tank full & done 43.8 mpg (on Tesco diesel). All my journeys have been 5 milers apart from one 30 mile journey. Does this sound ok & what could I expect on a long run? (car is 99 gt tdi 110) thanks.
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sounds about right for short journeys. long journeys expect upwards of 50mpg :afro:
even at motorway speeds i've completed a 100 mile journey with 50mpg + and even saw 60!! :smug:
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i use asdas quite a bit just cos its cheap.i get bout 515 - 525 outta a full tank.mines a 110 gt tdi
hey guys, i have a 99 110bhp tdi and i only get about 420 out of a full tank before the light goes on. it seems as though im about 100 short off you guys? why could this be???? in 4 years of owning the car i have never seen it do anything close to 500!!!!
how u drive it?
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shell fuel for mine and nothing else got 1 just down the road. :smiley:
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CHIP FAT! thats what i use :laugh: im not joking :grin:
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i use asdas quite a bit just cos its cheap.i get bout 515 - 525 outta a full tank.mines a 110 gt tdi
hey guys, i have a 99 110bhp tdi and i only get about 420 out of a full tank before the light goes on. it seems as though im about 100 short off you guys? why could this be???? in 4 years of owning the car i have never seen it do anything close to 500!!!!
how u drive it?
Also the PD engines (115,130,150) are more effecient than the non-PD ones. Maybe get yours scanned for faults?
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Thought I would revitalize this thread given that fuel prices have risen since it was started and I'd be interested to see what you might advise I run in my unmodified TDi 130.
Shell V-Power diesel is about £1.14/L. I also have BP, Co-op (recently changed from Somerfield) and ASDA stations near me. Co-op and ASDA only sell normal diesel and not sure about BP as I've never been. I prefer the Shell and ASDA garages because they have self-service pumps but what are you guys finding the most economical and best value at the moment?
Cheers,
Mike
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Stick with Shell mate
I've run mine on supermarket fuel and it smokes a lot more
I only use Total Excellieum as there's a garage near where i work. i get more miles out of a tank and hardly any smoke on full throttle
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What about the shell standard diesel as opposed to the V-Power? I put 15L of V-Power diesel in last night as I believe it has a form of detergent in that cleans the injectors. I think it works out about 6p a litre more expensive for V-Power, so it's only £3.30 a tank difference.
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What about the shell standard diesel as opposed to the V-Power? I put 15L of V-Power diesel in last night as I believe it has a form of detergent in that cleans the injectors. I think it works out about 6p a litre more expensive for V-Power, so it's only £3.30 a tank difference.
upto you really. I pay the extra for the Excellieum (equivalent to V-power0 and I think its worth it as performance and economy seem to be better but that could also be due to the remap
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I think I'll have to run a few tanks of each and try and work out an average. I don't mind paying £3 a tank more for higher quality fuel and I wouldn't have thought the price difference would be so little but I’ve always been a bit sceptical of how good V-Power and equivalent premium fuels actually are for the money
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i remember reading something a while back about the fuels like v-power burning cleaner so slowly clean the engine that way rather than having an actual cleaning agent in
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I sometimes use V-power diesel and also use normal shell diesel and the miles to full tank aren;t that much different to be honest, but if it's cleaning the insides then fair play.
I only ever get like 400 to 430 miles to a full tank even whenI go on long motorway runs, which i'm sure ain right so i'm changin my MAF which is number one on the list of things that could cause bad mpg.
Wish me luck as I really hope the MAF sorts this out and I get like 55mpg+ like many others do on motorway trips doing 70.
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There are some folk with 130's that get 500 miles to a tank, i know for sure my car in it's current state couldn;t manage 500 miles to a tank so something deffo not right.
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I think one factor is sometimes the size of your wheels and tire pressures.
I'm on 18"s and not quite sure if I should be putting the tire pressure recommended inside the filler cap panel or something else :undecided:
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I think one factor is sometimes the size of your wheels and tire pressures.
I'm on 18"s and not quite sure if I should be putting the tire pressure recommended inside the filler cap panel or something else :undecided:
I run 34psi front and 32psi rears :wink:
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What wheel size are you on? Does the PSI vary from wheel to wheel and tyre to tyre or is it the same across the board? 34 and 32 seems high? I wrote my 206 off because of a blow out whilst going through a speed chicane, resulting in front end smash into a parked lorry :huh:
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18's - BBS RC's (Anniversary wheels)
I've had no adverse tyre wear from running those pressures although the Falken's i had lasted approx 9K but thats because they were sh!te
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I haven't got a clue what my wheels are other than they are replicas, apparently from Foxhunters. So how the heck do I know what I'm supposed to fill my tires to?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/200950348418940/sort/priceasc/usedcars/make/volkswagen/model/golf/fuel-type/diesel/maximum-mileage/over_100000_miles/price-to/4000/price-from/3000/postcode/ne237xj/radius/10/page/1?previous=%2Fsearch%2Fresults%2Fusedcars%2Fpostcode%2Fne237xj%2Fradius%2F10%2Fmake%2Fvolkswagen%2Fmodel%2Fgolf%2Ffuel-type%2Fdiesel%2Fmaximum-mileage%2Fover_100000_miles%2Fprice-to%2F4000%2Fprice-from%2F3000%2Fsort%2Fpriceasc%2Fpage%2F1&anchor=advert200950348418940&logcode=p
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There are some folk with 130's that get 500 miles to a tank, i know for sure my car in it's current state couldn;t manage 500 miles to a tank so something deffo not right.
I get 600++ to a tank I got a remapped 150 :wink:
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What fuel you using Steve?
There are some folk with 130's that get 500 miles to a tank, i know for sure my car in it's current state couldn;t manage 500 miles to a tank so something deffo not right.
I get 600++ to a tank I got a remapped 150 :wink:
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normal poverty spec, am too much of a tight arse to spend more on fuel for no gains :lipsrsealed:
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Supermarket, big name petrol station or something else?
normal poverty spec, am too much of a tight arse to spend more on fuel for no gains :lipsrsealed:
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what evers closest when I need petrol, shell, tescos, Texico....
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Sounds like you’re getting reasonable economy just from using the normal then. I know you've got a remap but out of interest what wheels are you on and what tire pressure do you generally use?
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at the moment 16" steelies, 34psi front, 32psi rears
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34 and 32 it is then
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18's - BBS RC's (Anniversary wheels)
I've had no adverse tyre wear from running those pressures although the Falken's i had lasted approx 9K but thats because they were sh!te
What tyres are you running now. I've got some anni's to go on. :smiley:
(http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx339/vw-jase/P1150036.jpg)
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Running Goodyear Assymetrics on the front and the sh!tty Falkens on the rear (soon to be replaced!) :smiley:
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Running Goodyear Assymetrics on the front and the sh!tty Falkens on the rear (soon to be replaced!) :smiley:
Goodyear F1's it is then FTW!
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Jay your car gonna look even more awesome with those bad boys on, wrapped in F1 rubber
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If there any problem with jumping from one type to the next. For example, say i have quater of a tank left and I put £20 of shell in rather than the usual at tesco as its closer. Will it make a difference. I guess its best to try and stick to the same type.
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I found that filling up with sainsburys city diesel over my normal esso has decreased my mpg by about 5 :(
am running some injector cleaner through atm and renewing the fuel filter, but im going to try and stick with whats been used before on personal experiance seems to get better mpg.
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I try and stick to shell all the way, if going on a motorway journey I run V-power for the extra bit of poke and also the feul system cleaning aspect of it.
The 2 may be myths but that's what I do at the moment.
Mind you still sh*te mpg as I still don;t know what is causing it :(
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Do you guys put stuff in with the fuel to clean it out or something?
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIESEL-INJECTOR-CLEANER-300ML_W0QQitemZ310140731247QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4835d3ff6f
Or something simular is what i use
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DIESEL-INJECTOR-CLEANER-300ML_W0QQitemZ310140731247QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4835d3ff6f
Or something simular is what i use
Anyone know if this stuff works well? Just want a few opinions?
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il give u a verdict after ive filled up.
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il give u a verdict after ive filled up.
:afro:
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I use the Millers Diesel cleaner, can't say there are any obvious bonuses to using it but i'm going on the fact the it must be cleaning the fuel system so can only be a plus.
Supposed to give you a bit of oommph also but can't say I feel a noticable difference if i'm quite honest.
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put some injector cleaner through before i filled up with 15 ltrs. as well as having the fuel filter replaced on my 17mile trip home i saw my magic 70mpg by the time i got home lol.
average speed of 40-60mph, averaged 62mpg goin around today for work.
still got my new MAF to fit so might see a increase still but im glad my mpg has increased from barley geting to 50 (due to filling up with city diesel which my car has never drank before) so back on the esso stuff and all is good :)
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Is Bio diesel something that can be used in the TDI 150 PD or can it cause damage ? Scanned through the topic but did not see this answered.
Also if the clutch has just been changed will it be able to take a remap or will it fail ?
Thanks ;)
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i used bio disel for 40 000miles in my 150 pd theres no difference in performance sonly slightly less mp (47-48mpb @ 80mph) as appose to around 53mpg.... i changed fel filter every 10k though ..... but it was only 88p a litre
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That's good to know, not sure I can do it to her though. :undecided:
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Where the hell do you get bio diesel from?
Anyone got anymore feedback on using this or other that have used it?
Nadlad why did you stop using it?
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Should I still use 34 and 32 for motorway driving on long journeys?
34 and 32 it is then
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Is Bio legal though or will I get done if I put it in my tank and get 'tipped'? Not not will go and buy some now as I live in a garage that sells it...u dont need to show anything like proof? ie aint using it in farming equipment despite it s derv
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mmmm more info plz :)
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Actually isn;t bio different to the farming red diesel?
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bio diesel is legal, even in the audi vw handbook it says its ok to use, ave used it for ages (50k miles no problem) , there was a place in york that used to produce it and had 3 pumps on the farm the guy has made a fortune and moved on now , the owner used to use it on his 55plate range rover sport, so its gonna be good enough for a poxy golf.
now there is no one nearby that sells bio diesel so its back to normal diesel, i find morrisons diesel good though, i seem to get more miles out of it then shell.
red diesel is also availble at the time it was about 55p u had to bring a barrel and fill it up and then stick it in your car, but its a hefty fine if u get caught, there was a story once about soem asian lads in ireland who managed to set up a factory which took the red out of the diesel but they got busted.
bio ftw.
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red diesel is also availble at the time it was about 55p u had to bring a barrel and fill it up and then stick it in your car, but its a hefty fine if u get caught, there was a story once about soem asian lads in ireland who managed to set up a factory which took the red out of the diesel but they got busted.
bio ftw.
If it was in Ireland it wouldn't be red diesel, it's green diesel over there :nerd:
You can also get a tablet that removers the die without breaking down the fuel cheap as hell. Problem is they can swab your exhaust and tell. It also smokes more than normal diesel. The red dye stains the tank, pipes and engine in some places. I would never run the stuff.
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Started using shell v-power diesel in mine since remap, have noticed an improvment in running and mpg :evil:
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I'm not that convinced with Vpower diesel, costs quite a bit more and I don't notice much of a difference in MPG.
After map though i've generally got better MPG.