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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 08micsta on 16 July 2007, 09:41
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Just got me a copy of the latest edition of Car magazine and the front cover features a fall out between the Golf R32 and the Audi S3...
So...
To get rid of the suspense. The S3 won :grin: but only by the tip of its overlarge grill. :drool:
So to cut a long story short. I noticed a few things about Car Magazine in general.
1. They are extremely biased against anything that involves a VW Badge.
2. They have a group of 4 old people who make a statement about the cars. And they all say that they like the R32 and the growl and this and that except for one who said he would rather have the Audi. And yet! The S3 wins?
Now I wanna go back to the ancient long dispute. GTI vs ST?
The ST also according to this magazine "beat" the rival, that being the GTI.
So, when i saw this article about the R32 vs S3 it brought back memories. Some things I feel I need to share. The first thing I have noticed about Car Magazine is that when they vs'd the ST and GTI every single picture they published (including the front cover) had the ST in front of the GTI. And guess what. The S3 in every (bar one small picture) was always in fron of the R32 including the front cover of the magazine. That is blatant bias. So I went on the net and found out that the photgraphers that took those pictures are two completely different people, therefore Car magazine is responsible for that bias. (Anyone seeing what I am heading at??)
So, next point. I spoke earlier about the panel of 4 old people called John and Marther and blah blah and in both articles they said that they like the GTI AND R32. So does that mean that they are sucking this out of the top of there thumbs because they like the cars and then make the rival win? Wheres the point in that??? its all bias!
In both articles the rival wins because of:
Ford Focus ST: "Its tacky ST badges and poor performance"
Audi S3: "Its the iconic hot hatch" (Isnt that meant to be the GTI and not some Audi thingy?)
They claimed that the R32 had too little glamour. Because unlike the S3 it didnt feel like a race car.
D@mmit... Its not meant to be a race car. Its a MK5 Golf with a V6 Engine and all wheel drive with a few cosmetic changes. If I wanted a race car i would buy a Pagani Zonda (Excuse spelling) OR if you dont have that much cash a RS4.
Its like saying you dont want to buy the GTI because its not as fast as you friends Enzo. I know I am ranting on about nothing but its the truth. I have vouched never to read a Car Magazine again.
So point out of this is. Dont give up your R32 or GTI (thats aimed at you ManuGTI) because you think that "he" said it was better and therefore it is. I have just realised that nowadays reading magazines is a waste of time. There are ploys and this article is the perfect example. For any of those who have the magazine at home. Read it carefully then go to your public library and go see the article they did on the GTI vs ST and you will see where I am coming from.
i have just vented my anger and will be writing the editors of this magazine a very long letter. :evil:
Any one have any comments?
Mike :smiley:
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Get Evo instead :afro:
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We dont get Evo in South Africa.
We get:
Car Magazine
Topcar
Wiel (Afrikaans magazine)
GQ
And a few 4x4 magazines.
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Evo is the way to go!
:edit: fs Rhyso, beat me to it.
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On the ST vs GTI debate, I'll just chuck mine in:
I wanted a hot hatch and my finalists in my budget were these two cars.
I chose the GTI basically because of class and pedigree. I have to arrive at meetings sometimes with some credibility. The Golf allows that perfectly, the focus would undermine me.
Also, most hot hatch group tests show the GTI above the ST in the pecking order.
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Evo is the way to go!
:edit: fs Rhyso, beat me to it.
:tongue:
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i prefere the audi on looks alone, the r32 sounds awesome but the audi wins on potential tuning too... I do agree an evo would be a sound choice having owned one however they are gash inside and feel cheap compared to german rivals
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i prefere the audi on looks alone, the r32 sounds awesome but the audi wins on potential tuning too... I do agree an evo would be a sound choice having owned one however they are gash inside and feel cheap compared to german rivals
i believe the term 'Evo' was used in reference to the superior car mag, not the car!
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i prefere the audi on looks alone, the r32 sounds awesome but the audi wins on potential tuning too... I do agree an evo would be a sound choice having owned one however they are gash inside and feel cheap compared to german rivals
i believe the term 'Evo' was used in reference to the superior car mag, not the car!
Spot on :afro: speaking of which i do believe a new issue is due soon :cool:
Not a fan of the Evo car :grin: :grin:
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Best car mag by miles. Been a subscriber for several years now.
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Best car mag by miles. Been a subscriber for several years now.
i take it then you've been following the progress of Harry's Zonda?? What a jammy sod he is!! :drool: :drool:
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The articles in car are good on the whole. LJK Setright was brilliant.
Each magazine has its favourites.
However, for the last couple of years I read more and more copies of EVO.
Mind you I have copies of Autocar & Motor and Car going back nearly 30 years!
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How out of this world was the Caparo T1. It really is an F1 car with a license plate.
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Is this article available online? Cant get the magazine in Germany. Seems a bit spooky, as soon as I am ordering me S3 and getting rid of the R32, a magazine covers it!
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Is this article available online? Cant get the magazine in Germany. Seems a bit spooky, as soon as I am ordering me S3 and getting rid of the R32, a magazine covers it!
Give me until the end of the day and I will try find it for you. Or at least get you a pic of the front cover of the magazine
:smiley:
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http://www.cartoday.com/content/car_magazine/issue.asp?m=07&y=2007
Not the article (will find that later)
But its something
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http://www.cartoday.com/content/car_magazine/issue.asp?m=07&y=2007
Not the article (will find that later)
But its something
Many thanks, will get me dad to buy it for me.
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Your father will buy it??? :huh: :huh: :huh:
I am confussed.
Anyhow if I find it on the net I will post it.... :smiley:
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Your father will buy it???
I am confussed.
I will get my dad to buy it as I am in Germany and cannot get the magazine over here.
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Evo mag is the best by far
"Not a fan of the Evo car :grin: :grin:" Rhyso
I am !!!
My old Evo VI
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/gjroe78/MitsubishiEvoVI-01.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/gjroe78/MitsubishiEvoVI-02.jpg)
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Very orgasmin gjroe78.
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Cheers, I put a load of pic's of my old cars in "soooo what doe's everyone look like...."
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A discussion in a similar vein, with added poll, was started by me on VAGsport: http://www.vagsport.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=229
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A discussion in a similar vein, with added poll, was started by me on VAGsport: http://www.vagsport.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=229
Yes. Thank you TT.
However could I get your opinion (Being a driver of a RS4 :evil: )
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A discussion in a similar vein, with added poll, was started by me on VAGsport: http://www.vagsport.co.uk/Forum/showthread.php?t=229
Yes. Thank you TT.
However could I get your opinion (Being a driver of a RS4 :evil: )
Well, my personal opinion - the S3 any day. Even if the S3 were stacked against an R32 with a 3.6 lump, the S3 would still be my preference.
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Ok. I can live with that.
But to be honest I think the Golf would attract more attention in South Africa and I like that. The S3 and other Audis down here seem a bit dull. The only real Audi that looks good and hot is the Q7 and the RS4. :drool:
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The S3 and other Audis down here seem a bit dull.
But Audis are designed to be "understated"! :wink:
The only real Audi that looks good and hot is the Q7 and the RS4. :drool:
The Q7 is just a leviathon! :shocked:
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But I like the Q7 :embarassed:
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But I like the Q7 :embarassed:
Me too - but that still doesn't escape the fact that it is feckin huge! :evil:
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But I like the Q7 :embarassed:
Me too - but that still doesn't escape the fact that it is feckin huge! :evil:
Its does not stand a chance against the Porsche Cayenne! That is huge :rolleyes:
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But I like the Q7 :embarassed:
Me too - but that still doesn't escape the fact that it is feckin huge! :evil:
Its does not stand a chance against the Porsche Cayenne! That is huge :rolleyes:
Yebut, the Cayenne is absolutley fugly. :sick:
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The new facelifted one is ok. We looked at the Merc ML63 AMG on saturday. That thing is evil!