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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: BodyThief on 14 July 2007, 16:26
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I had a test drive today in a mk5 GTI DSG :cool:
My current car is a 2002 BMW330i Sport with auto box which I've had for three years without any major problems. I've had a 1.6 mkIV golf in the past which I disliked due to the soft suspension but I thought I'd give the mkV a go due to the positive road tests.
I loved it!
The car handles great, feels much lighter on its feet, with less body roll than either the mkIV Golf or the BMW. I was impressed by the performance too, the throttle responses were much sharper than in the BMW and overall felt just as quick. The DSG box is fantastic,a big leap forward from the Alafa selespeed box I had in a previous car and more interesting than a standard auto. The seats were particularly comfortable and supportive (something I dislike about my current car)
The negatives? well I like the sharp styling of the BMW, it's the last of the hard, square style Bm's before Mr Bangle took over. The Golf is not a bad looking car in GTI trim but doesn't have the presence of the 3-series. The look of the interior plastics also are a bit inferior but it didn't rattle unlike mine! Finally, the price is a bit crazy for a small car with a 2.0 litre engine!
Overall though hugely impressed, I think I want one :wink: I can't think of any other similar car I want to test drive (don't like the BMW 1 series and find the A3 a bit boring looking) so it's either keep the BMW for a few more years or go for it! I'll let you know if decide to buy one :smiley:
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You know you want to...........And a GTI is more exclusive than a 3 series these days.. :rolleyes:
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Buy a gti,keep it for a while,then sell and rob a bank for a new M3 with there version of DSG!!!
I know that is my intention,now where is my Tony Blair mask for practice!!!!!!!!!!
Chris.
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Drop the beemer get a ed30 (if still available)
thats what iv done(2.5ci msport convertible)
only negetive side is the WAITING 8 WEEKS DONE AND COUNTING
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I changed from a 2001 Boxster S to the Golf GTI Turbo. I found it a nicer all round drive than the porsche, doesn't have the growl of the Porsche flat 6 and can't get near it for power and grip. But all round I think the Golf is a nicer drive.
Steve
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GTI is the car to have. Only a limited number on the roads so you will get some attention and its a cracking car!
Its loved by the young and the old. The boys and the gals !
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Review of the new BMW M3 here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2007/07/14/nosplit/mfbmw14.xml
Particularly like the summary here:
We like: Gloriously unapologetic power and performance from BMW’s racing division.
We don't like: Uncouth engine note, scary handling when pressing on (or not), lack of steering feedback, carbon-fibre roof, image as a drug dealers’ car, 11mpg means a life spent with oil company free gifts. :grin:
Cass
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11 mpg !?! :shocked: :shocked: I thought the R32 drank too much - my only criticism of it.
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BMW IS :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I think my opinion has been given on this topic :wink:
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Hi There,
Last week i cancelled my order for a new M3 looks rubbish particulaly inside 11-15mpg who they kidding and bought a GTI which is fantastic. Most tellingly when the last M3 was launched everyone praised it for offering a genuine 911 alternative with 4 seats and the mpg was acceptable I know I had one. None of the road tests have mentioned the current 911 C2S in comparison worrying for BMW me thinks.
Get a Golf GTI wish id done it 2 years ago
Cheers
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image as a drug dealers car
Made me chuckle
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Hi There,
Last week i cancelled my order for a new M3 looks rubbish particulaly inside 11-15mpg who they kidding and bought a GTI which is fantastic. Most tellingly when the last M3 was launched everyone praised it for offering a genuine 911 alternative with 4 seats and the mpg was acceptable I know I had one. None of the road tests have mentioned the current 911 C2S in comparison worrying for BMW me thinks.
Get a Golf GTI wish id done it 2 years ago
Cheers
Interesting comments - good to hear this :smiley:
Must admit I have gone off BMW since Bangle and his bunch of blind stylists took responsibility for the design process :shocked:
Cass
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Ok I test drove another GTI today and I'm serieously considering this one.
I'd be grateful for some advice though.
Firstly, on this particualr car the brake pedal seemed way to high (much higher than the accelerator) Is this something that differs fom car to car as I dont remember the first one being like this. If so , can it be adjusted?
Secondly, the salesman advised me to have a paint treatment , cant remember the name now, which is supposed to add a polymer layer to the surface lasting 3 years. For the £275 they also treat the wheels in a similar way and scotchguard the interior. Any good?
Cheers.
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My brake pedal is level with the clutch, unsure if it can be adjusted.
Don't bother with the paint protection, you can get the full kit on ebay for £11.99 or there abouts, you can also apply to wheels. A good polish/wax is much better.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jewel-Ultra-Diamond-Brite-Car-Valeting-Pack-AUDI_W0QQitemZ120143098832QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jewel-Ultra-Diamond-Brite-Car-Valeting-Pack-AUDI_W0QQitemZ120143098832QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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My brake pedal is level with the clutch, unsure if it can be adjusted.
Don't bother with the paint protection, you can get the full kit on ebay for £11.99 or there abouts, you can also apply to wheels. A good polish/wax is much better.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jewel-Ultra-Diamond-Brite-Car-Valeting-Pack-AUDI_W0QQitemZ120143098832QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jewel-Ultra-Diamond-Brite-Car-Valeting-Pack-AUDI_W0QQitemZ120143098832QQihZ002QQcategoryZ10374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Yup.. the Autoglym Lifeshine is a RIP OFF.
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Just an update on this....
I decided to buy the car. Its a 2006 GTi DSG in Tornado Red with 18" Monzas, Sunroof, parking sensors, winter pack, arm rest.
So, nice car but crap customer service so far!
I still havent got the car even though I placed the order over 2 weeks ago. It was due to be ready Wednesday or Thursday last week, but there has been no communication from them at all. I was ready to cancel until they finally called yesterday. I've rang the dealer 3 times today only to be left waiting in a queue before being cut off! I work in sales myself and would NEVER expect a customer to wait in a telephone queue, especially one that wants to buy something lol. I sent a very sh!tty e-mail to the sales guy this afternoon :smug:
The dealer is Wayside in St Albans. This doesn't fill me with confidence, maybe I should stick to BMW!
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Sounds like another case of good product and shoddy dealers, compensation for messing you around, free 1st service perhaps, always worth a try! :wink:
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I picked the car up at last on Friday!
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6471/golfgti4zy9.jpg
I'm really impressed with the sharp handling and steering (which is light but I like it that way). Performance is great, feels quicker than the 330i (though not quite as silky smooth) I love the seats also which are comfortable, supportive and hold the right bits in!
Any downsides? Well the interior is a quality notch down on the BMW, looking a bit grey and having some dodgy looking plastics. I'd love to replace the section around the stereo with something nicer, has anyone done this? The ride is also a bit more fidgety than what I remembered on the test drive but it's always a comprimise and I'll focus on the great handling.
One annoying thing, I put a bag on the passenger seat which the seatbelt sensor must have mistaken for a human lol, so I drove all the way back from Sainsbury's with dashboard beeping at me :undecided: There must be a way round that surely!!
Overall though I'm pleased :smiley:
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Put the bag in the boot on one of the hooks! :rolleyes:
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or maybe on a thing called the floorpan :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Review of the new BMW M3 here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2007/07/14/nosplit/mfbmw14.xml
Particularly like the summary here:
We like: Gloriously unapologetic power and performance from BMW’s racing division.
We don't like: Uncouth engine note, scary handling when pressing on (or not), lack of steering feedback, carbon-fibre roof, image as a drug dealers’ car, 11mpg means a life spent with oil company free gifts. :grin:
I've always hated the lack of steering feedback in BMWs! I really don't get why some motoring journos rave about "dead" centre-feel from bimmer steering gear! :sick:
Another sweet quote:
The car is untypical of M-sport's traditional understatement and makes the Audi RS4 look very grown up - no clues for guessing why I like that! :smug:
Another one:
Perhaps all this is a way of saying I'm not good enough fully to exploit the handling of the new M3, but this is nevertheless a heavy-duty car with a lot of performance and not a lot of feedback to the driver. What feedback you do get tells you that if you use its performance, it feels horribly almost out of control for quite a lot of the time. I don't mind admitting it frightened me a bit
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I always felt that the steering in the 330 was heavy and stodgy. The GTi steering doesnt have a great deal of feel, but is lighter and quicker. The car feels more lively as a result, and doesn't rip your arms out at parking speeds!