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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: MarkA on 20 June 2007, 08:23
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Helloooo,
Did a search on this,but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for.
I've just bought a new mk5 GTi, which will be delivered next wednesday. I'm not new to VWs having owned 2 mint MK2 GTI 16vs and a Corrado VR6 Storm back in the 90s. I used to own a 1995 Audi RS2, a 2005 WRX PPP and have owned various turbo powered Saabs in between, so I'm not new to turbo cars and tuning them... or in the case of the Saabs...fixing them :( .
With the Subaru and Saabs, I found that there was always a select bunch of products and tuners that were much better than the rest, that most people in the community would use - Nordic, Maptun and Hirsch for the Saabs and people like ECUTEK for the Subaru.
My question is, what suppliers of remaps does this community think are the best for the MK5 GTi, and why? What are your experiences?
There are loads of stg1 remaps to choose from I see, Superchips Bluefin, MTM, ABT, AmD technik, Revo etc.
By best, the criteria I would use is:
Is the tune safe ?: does the tuner just up the boost map or does he also balance the fuel and advance/retard maps so the car doesn't lean out through the entire set of rev range, engine load and throttle position permutations?
How is the drivability of the car affected?
How intrusive is the upgrade? Does it require the ECU box to be removed/swapped or is it a reflash via the OBDII port?
Are the claims accurate? : Does the remap generally do the numbers the tuner says it does when the car is rolling road checked? Is the service good?
Are the instructions good? : If it's a DIY install.. are the instructions and diagrams clear?
Are there discounts on stage increase remaps? : Say I buy the hardware (race cat, bigger downpipe, larger free flowing exhaust, intercooler change, intake change) will they supply software to take advantage of that at a lesser cost, because I bought the stage 1 software from them already?
What happens when the dealer overwrites the upgrade? : Do they offer a free service to correct their upgrade software?
Are security features and other car functionality affected?
What's the price of the upgrade, compared with the above?
That sort of thing?
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Go Revo, MTM, B&B Automobiltechnik, Wendland Motorentechnik, or Oettinger.
I'd choose Oettinger. It's a personal preference.
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I have an Amd stage 1 remap. I can't speak for the service, as it was done via the VW dealer, however, I can say it is a real pleasure to drive. Incredibly fast, very responsive, with a extremely smooth delivery of power.
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I have an Amd stage 1 remap. I can't speak for the service, as it was done via the VW dealer, however, I can say it is a real pleasure to drive. Incredibly fast, very responsive, with a extremely smooth delivery of power.
AMD Stage 1 Remap = BHP...etc?
And do VW do them?
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258 bhp. I believe the remap can now be user installed and is also switchable with the standard map. (mine is two years old).
Yes, my remap was handled by the VW dealer that supplied the car.
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258 bhp. I believe the remap can now be user installed and is also switchable with the standard map. (mine is two years old).
Yes, my remap was handled by the VW dealer that supplied the car.
VW offered to chip mine via AMD too. Where are you based jack?
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258 bhp. I believe the remap can now be user installed and is also switchable with the standard map. (mine is two years old).
Yes, my remap was handled by the VW dealer that supplied the car.
How much did they charge for it?
And any problems?
Covered by a full VW Warranty?
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The car came from Listers In Worcester.
I've had no problems with it at all. Can't remember the cost, but I think it was circa £800. You can obviously have the same
work done cheaper if you went directly to amd, but it would invalidate your warrently, unlike having it done via the dealer.
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I paid £600 for my bluefin (not vw approved), so 200 quid to basically keep your warranty sounds like a bargain!
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I have fit the Bluefin superchip from www.superchips.co.uk - see report - 307 BHP- http://www.superchips.co.uk/roadtest/VW%20Driver%20May07%20Golf%20GTI%20Edition30.PDF - the results are excellent.
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I've had a chat with my local dealer and they tell me that Volkswagen NL (I suppose it's PON...) has qualified the upgrades from Abt and sell them through the dutch VW dealers. (I'm a Brit based in NL). Specs are 240HP and 330NM, but pretty pricey at Euro 1450 inc fitted and vat. The price of keeping the factory warranty I suppose....
I may go for that. Anyone running an Abt remap? Anyone got a RR plot of an Abt mapping on a GTi V? Or just a marketing plot?
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I investigated getting an Abt remap here in the UK but the support didn't impress me.
I would get something switchable so your VW dealer can service it in stock mode - Not to hide the remap but to avoid ECU problems when there's a VW ECU update. Revo, oettinger, are among the best imo. AmD used to be good but...
I think it's best to go gently - a Stage1 - and go to a tuner who gives good personal service and cares. Rolling Road the car again a few weeks later to check how it's settled. If you've got DSG, make sure the torque is limited to 300 ft lb max.