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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: acwats on 15 June 2007, 21:34

Title: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: acwats on 15 June 2007, 21:34
This is interesting, I haven't had time to look at the GTI figures but VW are reported to come out quite well

Check out http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/226013/ (http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/226013/) for the article and http://www.rri.se/ (http://www.rri.se/) for the results.

Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Russ.C on 15 June 2007, 21:44
3 Golfs all in the top 10, not bad! Including GTI only 5bhp less than official figures and more torque! Bonus!
(sorry, just realised i'm pointing out the obvious! for anyone who can't be arsed to read the articles!)
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: SteveS on 15 June 2007, 22:05
3 Golfs all in the top 10, not bad! Including GTI only 5bhp less than official figures and more torque! Bonus!
(sorry, just realised i'm pointing out the obvious! for anyone who can't be arsed to read the articles!)

my kinda guy! thanks!
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Hurdy on 15 June 2007, 23:44
Top find :smiley:

That site has just gone directly on to my favourites list :nerd:
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Peskarik on 15 June 2007, 23:58
still, there is a loss of 3 percent  :cry:
you always hope you car produces more than stated, or at least the same as sated, like Audi S3!  :shocked:
S3 is better than Edition 30. Why?
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Dogbucket on 16 June 2007, 11:04
But remember they are comparing the manufacturers stated crank hp against their measured wheel hp. A normal rolling road would correct maybe +10-12% to get crank hp. As they seem to connect directly to the axles I dont know what loses are involved, but there will be some through the transmission.

The ED30 is very close to the R32 though.
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Dogbucket on 16 June 2007, 11:09
Just opened up my latest edition of VW driver

ED30 manual 0-60 5.6s
R32 manual 0-60 5.8s
GTI manual 0-60 6.0s
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Peskarik on 16 June 2007, 11:19
Just opened up my latest edition of VW driver

ED30 manual 0-60 5.6s
R32 manual 0-60 5.8s
GTI manual 0-60 6.0s

5.6 sek?
that's bullsh!t
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Peskarik on 16 June 2007, 11:20
But remember they are comparing the manufacturers stated crank hp against their measured wheel hp. A normal rolling road would correct maybe +10-12% to get crank hp. As they seem to connect directly to the axles I dont know what loses are involved, but there will be some through the transmission.

The ED30 is very close to the R32 though.

if 97% of stated 230hp are measured at the wheels - that's great!
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Dogbucket on 16 June 2007, 11:24
Just reading the article now. They admitted they full throttle powershifted the gearbox somewhat but power to weights are 172ps/ton for the ED30 and 159ps/ton for the R. Obviously the ED30 needs a dry road though!
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 24 August 2007, 16:48
Hmmmmm . . . .  :angry:

As usual, "headline" figures often don't tell the full story.  The RS4 was tested with only 600 miles (1080kms) on the clock.

It is a well-known fact that all engines (and VAG motors in particular) will produce more power when they are well and truely run in.  Indeed, my last S4 only really felt "properly" run in when it had about 12 or 13k miles.  It also started to give slightly better fuel economy around this time too.

The Bimmer M5 was tested at 12500kms, the Golf GTI at 8600kms, an Audi A4 1.9 TDI at 3500kms, and the new S3 at 1350kms (but interestingly, they used 99RON fuel, when 98RON had been used in the other petrols!  :nerd:)

As Mark Twain said, "there are lies, damned lies, and then statistics".  That should interject some more thoughts!
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Hurdy on 25 August 2007, 00:48
Hi Sean,

  Welcome back to the forum. I thought the forum had been missing "that certain something!"
Title: Re: Autocar Article - Horsepower tests
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 28 August 2007, 19:19
Hi Sean,

  Welcome back to the forum. I thought the forum had been missing "that certain something!"

Thanks.  I must have "dub" in my blood or sommat!  :grin: