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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Brando13 on 26 May 2007, 05:22
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Quick question i was looking at the new GTIs and they got 200 hp and for a nice loaded one im looking at 28k. Then i looked at the r32s like a 2004 they got 250 hp and im only looking at 25k. So my question is this is it worthe buying the brand new one, would take much to make it as fast as the 2004 r32 or should i just get the r32?
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You could just buy an Edition 30 (if you can find one), then you wouldn't have to do anything to get R32 pace! :cool:
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Obviously i am biast, but give the R32 a drive, Im sure the sound track and AWD will grab ya :laugh:
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I thought the R32 didn't come in until after 04?
S'pose it depends what you want, R32 has always been a none starter for me as I am a miser when it comes to buying fuel. But I guess even the most finely fettled 2.0t won't have the superb noise of the 6cyl
28k seems like a lot to spend on a new GTi - I thought you only ticked all the boxes if you needed to launder cash or her indoors wasn't watching
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I think they are both extremely nice cars but iv never driven an R32 so i cant really say much! But im sure you will be more than happy with your GTI! Im guessing its an MK4 R32 aswell? You might want to consider stuff such as factory guarantee and stuff?
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depends, id go for one with my toys on it, high spec GTI then low spec R32, but if the R32 has shed loads od extras, then go for that, one thing though, prepare for higher fuel usage, much higher road tax,and insurance group is 18 and not 17 as the Standard Gti. The golf Gti is better if you add more to it, if it has sat Nav , leather , xeon lights, luxery pack etc or if your a family man and have kids, a 5 door is essential, then get the Gti.
hope this helps in such a important financial decision. :smiley:
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Thanks for all the advice guys i think ima go to the dealer and check out a new gti and what my options are.
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Ifit was me after owning both a MK4 R32 04 reg and mow i have a MK5 Gti DSG - I would swap back any day of the week. I have missed that car since the day it left me. Looking at the mo into getting a Blue 03/04 reg MK4 R32 3dr. Cant find right one at mo tho. It looking at costing 16 -17k
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why dont you save and get the better built Mk 5 R32??
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Itsan option - bit too much at the mo still. Still 25k plus for the one id want. It a fair amount different
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Have a look on www.volkswagen.co.uk have a look at the list of R32 available across the uk, a dealer can get hold of any car you instruct, so might bag yourself a bargain :smiley:
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it would have to be the GTI for me. I was faced with the same option.
I loved the R32, but it just felt/looks dated when the new model has been around for a while. I used to have a BMW E46 M3, and although i loved that car, i would never buy another cos of the new E90 (or whatever it is now) is out, and it totally makes the E46 look dated.
I went for the GTI and am very pleased with my selection. I would have bought the new R32, but couldnt stretch the extra cash for one.
anyway, my answer to this question......... definalty the GTI! :laugh:
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Ifit was me after owning both a MK4 R32 04 reg and mow i have a MK5 Gti DSG - I would swap back any day of the week. I have missed that car since the day it left me. Looking at the mo into getting a Blue 03/04 reg MK4 R32 3dr. Cant find right one at mo tho. It looking at costing 16 -17k
There's a Mk4 R32 at Benfield Silverlink, Newcastle for 16995 if your interested. I'm sure it will be on the VW website.
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Quick question i was looking at the new GTIs and they got 200 hp and for a nice loaded one im looking at 28k. Then i looked at the r32s like a 2004 they got 250 hp and im only looking at 25k. So my question is this is it worthe buying the brand new one, would take much to make it as fast as the 2004 r32 or should i just get the r32?
If its a 2004 R32, then it must be a Mk4. Sounds very expensive for 25k. IMO there is no comparison between the Mk4/5 even if the Mk4 is an R32. GTI Mk5 for me any day of the week. I think you should try for the Ed30 if you can still get one.
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Mk4 Gone from benfield. I missed one from louth not long ago - blue 53 reg satnav sunroof lot - was gutted. 16995.
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Hi Brando,
GTI everytime...although I'm biased as you can see in my sig :wink:
Seriously though, I would pit my ED30 anytime against a MKV R32 (in the dry anyway...and probably even when "mildly Moist") Why, well, at the expense of getting shot at by R32 owners:-
R32 has good all weather grip and an amazing soundtrack, but is a good 200+kg heavier than the ED30. It has a bigger thirst than the Ed30, it will shortly cost you £400 a year to tax and is slower than an Ed30 over a standing quarter AND through the gears where it matters. The ED 30 is also more "exclusive" if you like that kind of thing. The R32 doesn't feel as nimble as the ED30 and IMO is therefore not as exciting to drive "enthusiastically". An R32 is rated by VW as 250PS which equates to 247BHP although it has been shown that some have less than this and none actually have more (awaiting to be proved wrong), wheras the ED30 is rated at 230ps/227bhp, but has been shown to produce more in the region of 240+bhp (see superchips standard figures at 244bhp) :nerd:
Oh, the R32 does come in blue and doesn't has a pimply gearknob...sorry to steal your quote Phil :laugh: :rolleyes:
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doh! :wink:
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i have driven all of the above, and more recently my freinds r32 mk4 golf, it has 13k on the clock. i was supprised how old it felt after coming from my ed30, the brakes were soggy too. and although the v6 sounds great they just lack the great feel of turbo kick us gti drivers get. i would defenately say gti or ed30 gti, plus remap ofcourse. btw in the autocar track test the r32 mk5 and gti mk5 were bang on identical 0 to 100 mph
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surprised that the speed is the same to 100mph, so makes them both faster then the Mk 4 R32 in standard guise.Just need to catch them dam Edition 30 owners!
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Mk4 Gone from benfield. I missed one from louth not long ago - blue 53 reg satnav sunroof lot - was gutted. 16995.
It was still there on Mon, just parked around the back of the showroom. It might be worth your while giving them a call.
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Love my Mk V GTI, best of all the GTI's I've owned. Seriously toyed with getting a new 3 door R32, but decided against it on the basis of head versus heart versus wallet :rolleyes: Had to be a new car for me, a retirement present, but if I was still working and looking hard at a second hand purchase, I would go for an R32, no problem. It would have to be black, obviously :wink: and with loads of extras that someone else had paid for :grin:
Don't like the R32 wheels though but those Audi copies of micalee's are something else :smiley:
Cass
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That £400 a year road tax has gotta hurt when you add in to annual insurance and running costs. Lovely motor though.
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That £400 a year road tax has gotta hurt when you add in to annual insurance and running costs. Lovely motor though.
I't's not that bad TBH, my insurance went up £36 per year when I changed from the GTi to the R32, and over the 3000 miles I covered in the car, I've used approximately 12 more gallons, or one tankfull, and at today pump prices that's £52.
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what range do u get creepy on £52 of fuel just outa interest?
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what range do u get creepy on £52 of fuel just outa interest?
About 350 Phil, but I never really let it go that low,(I have done a couple of times) so about 320.
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i get 320 from my GTi, but i live inner city, i guess you live outa town creepy
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Obviously i am biast, but give the R32 a drive, Im sure the sound track and AWD will grab ya :laugh:
Eye, they do sound nice, but a Miltek'd GTI would also be sweet.
One very important thing with the R32 though is the "4wd" - it is actually only a "part-time" 4 wheel drive system, whereby under normal driving conditions, ONLY the front wheels are driven. So, for 95% of the time, your traction is identical to the GTI.
Another issue with the R32 is the nose-heavy handling, producing noticeably more understeer than the GTI, due to the extra weight of the V6 lump.
A final issue, the R32 is much harder to tune, whereas the GTI lump, in either standard or Ed30 brews, is considerably more tuneable.
One big thing in the R32s favour, its' brakes are much better than the GTI anchors.
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Obviously i am biast, but give the R32 a drive, Im sure the sound track and AWD will grab ya :laugh:
Eye, they do sound nice, but a Miltek'd GTI would also be sweet.
One very important thing with the R32 though is the "4wd" - it is actually only a "part-time" 4 wheel drive system, whereby under normal driving conditions, ONLY the front wheels are driven. So, for 95% of the time, your traction is identical to the GTI.
Another issue with the R32 is the nose-heavy handling, producing noticeably more understeer than the GTI, due to the extra weight of the V6 lump.
A final issue, the R32 is much harder to tune, whereas the GTI lump, in either standard or Ed30 brews, is considerably more tuneable.
One big thing in the R32s favour, its' brakes are much better than the GTI anchors.
and another issue - R32 costs more to buy and to run. And depreciation is higher than that of GTI.
Basically, R32 is not cost-effective.
R32 is chosen COMPLETELY with the heart. :smug: