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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: rajSantiago on 17 May 2007, 11:53
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Hi All,
I have the option of ordering the current 07 spec GTI or if i wait another month, the 08 spec GTI(mind you delivery will be october - november either way). Currently i have informed the dealer to hold off the order till end of next month so i can get the 08 spec. To be honest, i don't know what the 08 spec is, but i figured that VW might fix all the little niggleys and might even harden the DSG operation (if it does have any faults at all...). Does anyone know what the 08 spec is ? If it means more cost cutting as i have been reading and no new features, i might as well place the order now?!?.......
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Hi, I ordered my GTI on the 23rd march and spoke to the supplier this week who told me there might be a delay due to the facelift model coming out, he said mine could be one of the first facelift models? but does not know yet. I also would like to know what differences are on the facelift ? I,ve seen pictures of the facelift GT TDI and some other models but don't know about the GTI ! Is it just the lights that are different or will the front grill be different aswell, like ther R32 ?
Seacap
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From TSN ...
Main Golf Changes are:
All trim levels (incl. GTI)
• Rod aerial replaces ‘shark fin’ aerial when the optional satellite navigation system
is ordered.
• Introduction of new generation immobiliser. Generation IV.
• AC button instead of ECON button for climatronic air conditioning
• New feature on climatronic air conditioning unit. Air quality sensor with automatic
changeover switch.
• Change to the symbols on the indicator/wiper lever.
• The black centre armrest with fabric covering will be changed from a ’fell’ seam to
a ‘join’ seam. This will be introduced from Week 22 onwards.
• Removal of optional factory fit telephone preparation. Available as aftersales fit
only.
R32
• 18†Zolder alloy wheels replaced by 18†Omanyt.
• New steering wheel clip with ‘R32’ logo.
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no facelift?
i have my e30 on order and ill b gutted if the new one looks better
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Hi Robin, Thanks for that !! In your opinion are the changes for the better ? Oops looks like I got it wrong about the lights and grill !!
SEACAP
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I was kind of worried when I read this post at first, and then even more worried when it said 'after build week 22' - as mine is week 20!
The Ed30 has a leather armrest - so that one wont apply, and neither will the SatNav one for me.
The only things different will be the air conditioning, immobiliser and the symbol on the wiper lever - which is hardly worth getting upset about!
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no facelift?
i have my e30 on order and ill b gutted if the new one looks better
Surely they wont be facelifting as the new Mk6 comes out next year.
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fewwwwwwwwwwwww!
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GTI MK 6 is along way off, end of 2009
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GTI MK 6 is along way off, end of 2009
if that is correct, im really happy!!
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Hi guys,
just to confuse you all further i've read in other forums that VW might be upping the base GTI to 230HP in the 08 spec. There is no official word from VW on this matter and hence i cant be 100% sure. I guess to avoid any disappointment, im just going to wait and order the 08 spec end of june.... :huh:
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well i have the e30 on order so its not gonna be great is one of the major points of it is the extra power and the standard gti gets it
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It could be a possibility as you only have to look back at the MKIV anniversary and the fact it had 180bhp whilst the standard made do with 150bhp and then the following spec came out for the following year make and lo and behold 180bhp became standard output on the normal GTI. So 5 years ago it happened with a 30bhp difference, what would be the difference now?
I can't say it wouldn't p!ss me off, because it would :angry:, but then again it should p!ss off standard GTI owners as well, especially if they have just taken delivery of the 200bhp model. Also, if you look back to the MKIV, the 150bhp models became less desirable than the 180bhp models and as a result the values of the 150bhp models fell drastically and again this could happen with the MKV especially when there is at least another year of the current MKV for VW to sell plenty of 230bhp versions.
Lets just hope that if there is a 230bhp upgrade for the standard model it is simply a remap and that they don't give it the full revised mechanicals that the ED30 has. In this respect it would keep a halo effect which would still distinguish the standard model from the ED30 even with the same power. :wink:
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Agree with you there Hurdy. Mind you they are still using the 200hp engine in the Leon FR and the Octavoia RS. So looking at economies of scale is it worth changing. The only other cars that share the ED30 engine are the S3 and the Leon Cupra...............
Let me just say that I hope that they don't do it. :huh:
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Lets just hope that if there is a 230bhp upgrade for the standard model it is simply a remap and that they don't give it the full revised mechanicals that the ED30 has. In this respect it would keep a halo effect which would still distinguish the standard model from the ED30 even with the same power. :wink:
Agreed there. Can't see them putting the same engine in the standard gti, as is in the ed30, surely? If they did, wouldn't they have to up the price? If so, they'd have to revise the prices across the whole range, even if it was just a remap. Having said that, if they did i wouldn't have any regrets with the ed30 :wink:!!!
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they will phase out the 200 bhp version, as they have done to all previous aniversary editions. I'd put money on this , the only thing different nxt year will the Edition 30 red stitching and badges to seperate the 2 Gti's apart. Just you wait and see. History books wont change just cus we are at Mk 5 stage. they have done it to mk 2, mk 3,mk 4, and will repeat again on mk 5 soon. It costs more if they have to purchase different parts from different suppliers. It will make the current gti less desirable on resales just like all previous mk'd golfs, and will affect Edition 30's apon release of Mk 6 next year. I wouldnt be supprised that they colour code the golfs aswell
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I'm not so sure. Of I'm right, I think the Mk4 R32 came out right at the end of the Mk4 Golfs life??
With the Mk5 the R32 has been around for a while and hence VW need to protect the differential between the 2.
If all GTi's take 230bhp, I could see the need to make the R32's a bit more powerful also. In the past this hasn't really been an issue.
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Correct wantmygti, hense the soon coming of the R36. and as we know Cost cutting seems to VW at the moment, and streamlining the range makes financial sense.
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Maybe Phil - does that mean the R32 is soon to be obsolete??
It also strikes me that Gti's in the past (mk 4 and prob 3) have always missed the mark, the mark 5 has had brilliant reviews. Maybe VW will decide not to tweak that base Gti further as there is no need - it still seems to be selling well??
Time will tell i suppose.
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yes i still think that 200hp for the Gti is spot on for all round performance(awaiting critisism) then adding more horsepower as it prooves with the ed 30's poorer showing round a track. I do like the external changes to the car, those pescaras on wellsys GTi do look good. Im worried about all these cost cutting tricks VW are up to of late are gonna put the next generation golf down and possible ruin a repaired review that the Mk5 has re-gained.
I think the 3.2 litre is an old girl now and will be phased out with the R36, and the standard Mk 6 will be the same lump in the edition 30 for the nxt gen GTi. :sad:
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I think the 3.2 litre is an old girl now and will be phased out
I've been saying that for quite a while.
The narrow angle VR6 engines suffer with poor internal cooling, which is why they remain in a relatively mild state of tune.
Indeed, Audi completely overlooked that engine, in favour of the 4-pot 2litre FSI turbo for the S3, dispite all the so-called "previews" claiming it would have the VR6 lump. Also, in the A4, Audi went for a compeletely new designed wide angle 3.2 V6. :nerd: