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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: andy1814 on 07 May 2007, 09:48
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Ordered a new "discounted" GTi with a high spec, and this is what turned up, can't believe how these people are still trading.
You won't believe it.. :angry:
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The car was new at first registration on th 30/04/07, made in July 05 and was stood in a field until then.
It shows that you get what you pay for.
Needless to say I got a full refund...!
Further info to follow.
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What a mess! If I wanted to drive something that had been standing in a field for two years I'd buy a tractor. Glad you got your money back.
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Don't you want to name and shame?
It doesn't matter what discount you get on a new car.....it should still be a new car and not one made 2 years ago :sick:
At least you got your money back :smiley:
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That's shocking. Glad you got it sorted though.
Don't you want to name and shame?
I'm not usually one for naming and shaming, but you could be saving someone a lot of hassle if you let people know who to avoid.
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Yeh,, I do want to name and shame. From a legal standpoint I (and this forum) are on very shakey ground.
I will tell you though they are based in Hull and that they have several GTi's @ £20,995 in stock with the following spec :-
Sunroof
Monza II
Reverse parking sensors
Center armrest with 6 CD multi-player
Multi function steering wheel
Cruise control
Zenons
5 doors
Even though they say UK spec they don't have an alarm, service booklets or a second key.!
Very high spec as you will agree and a saving of £4000'ish as least which of course is tempting. Until you see the car that is!
I can however recommend "Right Car" located down Clough Road who's GTi's are true "new" cars manufactured in 2007 to full UK spec.
More to follow :wink:
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I was going to buy from them :shocked: Allbra......
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ndsnew, yeah i canceled mine from them on sat, saw motorpoints gti 5drs with identical spec were all 2 years old, this coupled to the fact that the salesman said all the wheels were being replaced due to corrosion and the constant delays convinced me it was too much money to spend on something i had doubts over.
Cheers Andy you've set my mind at rest!!
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thats alarming!!
i have a gti on order from a certain healer based in hull
Hope I dont have the same issue
Were they decent about the refund??
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One lesson for anybody buying an import is to ask the supplier "what's the balance of the manufacturers warranty available?". You can easily date the car and make your mind up. I had concerns as I too looked (virtually) at these offers but thankfully decided against. About 10 weeks ago I was told they were in Cyprus, I guess quay side is more likely than field and the shipping (at least there and back) has exposed the cars to too much salt and caused the sort of oxidation we can see.
I've taken the built to order route for my mine but it's taking a very long to get car but I at least I should avoid this sort of disappointment.
PS A big Motor :smug: importer in Derby and Glasgow has about 90 cars listed on their site and Point :smug: out that these are nearly 2 years as well but have been in Jersey. Can't comment on the condition though
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When I say "in a field" you sort of get the picture.
acwats - Your importer in Derby is not the same place as I bought from though it would be easy to get them mixed up :wink:. I think also that all these high spec GTi's are from probably from the same batch as "mine" had corroded wheels.
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henspeed - They were fine about the refund but had little choice given the condition :sick:
All I really wanted to say was to be very careful if buying a "bargain" from a car supermarket (for the record my car was not from Motorpoint).
I would hate for somebody on here to be as disappointed as I was. :cry:
My advice is to see the car before paying anything and check it's VIN tag even though it's supposedly new.
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Blimey - makes you wonder why they were in a field / unsold for so long.
With that amount of corrosion, maybe they were salvaged from the container ship on the south coast by some pikeys!
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Holy shit :shocked: :shocked:
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That's a disgrace, how can a car be standing around for so long, when were all quoted 8-12 weeks delivery on new motors,It look's more like a car thats been washed up on a beach. I'd be staright in touch with VW UK. :angry:
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i think its ridiculous! it happens alot though with MOST dealerships. best thing to do is to order one to be made, then u know ur getting it brand new!
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This story and the associated pics should be sent to What Car or some other motoring publication to warn others and name/shame the offending company. I would have no hesitation at all if this was done to me.
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Cass
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OK lads I can tell you It was not ordered from the following dealers (supermarkets) ;-
Motorpoint
Car World
All Brands New
But was ordered from an "other" supermarket based in Hull.
I forgot to tell you the story when I ordered it. Bloody stupid of me I know but here goes :rolleyes:
Took a black GTi for a drive which looked and felt fine, tiny amounts of corrosion but nothing like the delivered car. They said wheels would be replaced under warranty plus any other parts that were required - no probs me thinks!
Struck a deal and then waited. During the week that followed I spoke again to the salesman who slipped into the conversation that the car I drove and thought was mine had been sold but that I would get a car to the same spec and condition..!!
mmmm I know what I think they did.. :angry:
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That is shocking!! :cry: :sick:
I agree with charri42, how can they allow a car to stand for so long? :undecided: With regards to the legal side of not wanting to shame please do...
There are possibly people here and on other sites (Vwvortex etc) that may be buying their Golfs through this dealer. Of course there will be a hassle to get your car replaced and why put others through that hassle? :undecided:
I reckon you should email VW Uk and make a complaint then spread the word... :evil: (After consulting a lawyer, priest etc)
These Bastewards need to be sorted out :grin:
Cheers
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This is shocking. I had been surprised at some of the discounts on the GTI being offered from some of the car supermarkets. I wonder if they all come from a single batch or if this is a single bad lot at a single car supermarket? In any event shocking and a good advert as to why to buy from the main stealer.
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I think Allbrandsnew and Motorprovider are sister companies (sod it they've messed me about enough they can be named). Hence the story about wheel corrosion from allbrandsnew tallying up with your story Andy.
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Like many have said before these GTi's are from the same batch.
The way they are prepped by the dealers/supermarket is the real big issue, for some a saving of £4000'ish is worth the risk.
"My" supermarket just registered it and de-waxed the paintwork.
How about this (forgot to mention it) -
You know how things often look slightly better in pictures well in this case they don't, the car was far worse than you can see on the pics.
As for a new car smell, well, you've got no chance. A fusty/mouldy smell yes with spores on the rusty jack. It smelt like an old Ford (no offence to old ford owners :nerd:) plus the manuals had a fusty smell aswell.
Here's a couple of exrta pics, I've also got a close up of the front of the car with the registration plate in full view :smug:
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(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa79/andy1814/bolts2.jpg)
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I think Allbrandsnew and Motorprovider are sister companies
I'm not sure about this. Motordepot and Allbrandsnew have very simimlar web sites and are located very close together in Hull.
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Well all I can say is I've never dealt with Allbrandsnew. Does that narrow things down for ya..??
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You're right acwats. My sincere and grovelling apologies to motorprovider, ive been looking at so many dealers I got mixed up! I should also say that the salesman at Allbrands has been nothing but polite and helpful the entire time, and im certain its not his fault!
Anyway my 3dr DSG with less kit but guranteed feb 2007 build date is ready for collection on Thursday from motorpoint!
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I bought a Nissan Almera 1.8 SVE sport from Motorpoint. It was 3 months old and allegedly came from Nissan UK. When it broke down I took it to a Nissan main stealer who told me it was out of it's 3 year warranty !! Seems it was in a field in Cyprus for 3 years.
They gave me my money back, plus paid to put my number plate back on retention and gave me £250 to say sorry. I told them i'd keep the car if they gave me £5k but they didn't go for it. Told me they wanted to take up the isue with Nissan UK !!
So I bought a mk4 GTI instead which is now my wife's daily driver. She wants my mk5 but we're married now so I don't have to chase quite so hard....... :wink:
My advice - order new. Accept less spec for you're money if that's a concern and get a brand new car. End of.
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for it to corrode in all those pics, i think the cars have been sat near a dockyard next to the sea, salty air will only do that kinda corrosion.
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Fry the barstewards - BBC Watchdog ???
You know it makes sense.
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Cass
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for it to corrode in all those pics, i think the cars have been sat near a dockyard next to the sea, salty air will only do that kinda corrosion.
Agreed - that is not from standing in a field in middle England. That is corrosion, not mildew that you may expect from inactivity.
It just begs the question WHY? why were they unsold for so long? did VW knowingly offload them? or have they been unreg and out of the VW network since build?
I know VW sometimes offloads nearly new cars that have been rejected through the supermarkets, but it makes no sense... I still think they are from the container ship along with BMW motorbikes!
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Maybe they should be called Allbrands(not so)new?!!! Or maybe Allbrands(nearly)new?! Or even Allbrands(at least 3 years old)new?
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Just got back from my hols, hence late reply.
This is truely shocking, but sadly just one of the very obvious snake-pits to avoid when buying from an importer, or car supermarket. Unfortunately, even franchised dealers can have access to old stock, though I hope not 2 years old!
A couple of points to mention. Firstly, someone mentioned contacting VW UK - I personally don't think they will be interested, as this particular car was supplied by an importer, and not an officially franchised dealer. However, contacting VW Germany would be worthwhile, as they will be able to trace them to the supplying dealer in Europe, and hopefully impose sanctions on the offending dealer. Afterall, it is tactics like these, of bulk buying, not being able to sell, then letting them rot in a field/docks - which not only devalues the "brand" or model (in terms of poor quality), but it also affects residiual values through oversupply!
Secondly, the OP mentioned the VIN tag. If you are EVER considering purchasing a "stock" car, be it from an importer, or franchised dealer, always check the 10th digit of the VIN number. This 10th digit (on all European VINs from all manufacturers) indicates the "model year" build of the car - for example, current 10th digit for new cars should be "7", for 2007. However, model years do not coincide with calender years, and usually start from the previous July/August time.