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General => General discussion => Topic started by: mk3 moe on 04 February 2004, 19:33
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hey ppl
is a 1.8cl the same as a gti or is there a difference, if so wot is it. (on a mk3)
also is there a mk2 equivalent of the tdi and wots ur views on the mk3tdi
i really want a mk3 gti but cant afford the petrol or insurance. any ideas on cheap insurance or alternatives to the gti
any replies much appreciated
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if u cant afford the 'gti' mk3, then try the 'driver' this normally has alloys/sports seats etc and is pretty much the same but has a 1800cc engine, as for the tdi yeah will be good on fuel, not sure of the power out puts on mk3 tdis?? 90 or 115 rings a bell but dont quote me on it!!, they can be tuned to a fair bit more but not as much as mk4 (pd tdi engines) the driver would be your best option if u cant afford a gti ;D
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evening moe,
the mk3 cl is only 75 or maybe 90bhp so the engine is less in peformance and the trim is going to be less interesting.
you can get a mk2 tdi but it's pretty rare. as kniterider says, you can get a 'driver' version of both the mk2 and 3 so they might be worth a go :)
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Don't think you can get a Mk2 TDI, it will have been the TD producing about 75 bhp, certainly not the TDI engine as fitted to Mk3 Golfs/Audi's etc. Probably would have been badged a CL-TD as well.
As an alternative to the Mk3 GTI, I would look at the Mk3 TDI. Performance won't be far short of the GTI when you are moving and overtaking as the torque is huge. Disregard the 0-60 times as they are worthless on the road, but instead look at the 30-50/50-70 times as they are more real life.
OK, the suspension will be a bit softer, but that can be fixed with a new set. The only thing that yo might find is that they will be high mileage examples and te price will probably still be high compared to the GTI of a similar age/mileage.
Serviceing costs will be higher as well, as the oil/filter will need to be changed more frequently, but you have to offset this against the fuel economy/insurace etc that you will be paying.
HTH,
John.
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plus the TDi's go on for millions of miles without any problems
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but any thing less than gti/driver interior is er, extremmley BORING ;D
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and slow ;D
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also the mk3 gti's (8v and 16v) are both 2.0s
at the end of the day there is a reason the gti's cost more to insure.. ;)
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I can whip a mk3 gti 8v in my mk2 8v easy.
Get a mk1 gti yay :D
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who's mk2 8v? :-*
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Mine - my name on log book yeah he did buy it with me and fit all the bits but I was brains behind all of it ;D
The mk1 is mine all mine and I'll whip you even with your new engine ;D :-* :P :-*
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VW did make a MK2 GTD, I think it was basically the GTI, but with a Diesel engine in it, and thus much less power.
It has the classic Mk2 GTI look, but the lack of power of older diesel engine.
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What would be wicked is a Golf country with a VR6 lump in it.......... ;D
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Go for the driver if you can't afford/find a good GTI.