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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: davidhawkins_78 on 22 April 2007, 17:31

Title: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 22 April 2007, 17:31: Ohhh the joys of life!! Just got a new radiator sorted, New tyres and the valver was running like a dream!

Over at my folks today and was turning round in the road; started to move backwards CLUNK as if I ran over something, moved forward after check underneath CLUNK again and gearbox oil pissing out but I couldn't see where?

Haven't got time to look at it till next weekend now too - there's nothing obviously missing or broken. Any ideas what the most likely thing to have died is given the low speed and full lock?

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: DarnPB on 22 April 2007, 18:01: I had the same on another car albeit, rear wheel drive. Turned out to be the diff, a part that is incorporated in these gearboxes.
New gearbox perhaps??? :sad:
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: monzablue16v on 22 April 2007, 18:09: Happened to me as well the Diff is held together by rivets which over time work loose get into the gearbox and shred the box before getting spat out leaving a nice hole in the side of the gearbox :( Clunk could be the driveshafts or cv joint thats gone as well
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Organisys on 22 April 2007, 18:10: snapped diff pin maybe. could be new box time.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 23 April 2007, 15:01: I'm expecting the worse to be honest!! If there's a hole in the casing it's not even worth trying to get it refurbed!

I'm loathed to lob a second hand box in as you never know what you're really getting and I want a proper fix. If you add the cost of a second hand box and the refurb together I bet you're not far off buying one in that state already with a warranty!?

What should I be considering with the worst in mind?

Dave.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Uruk Hai on 23 April 2007, 15:38: Recon box :undecided:
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 23 April 2007, 15:46: Lol - well for anyone else thinking recon box the first place I called quoted Ã‚£817 for a recon box!!! Ouch . . .
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Gambit on 23 April 2007, 20:16: the clunk is caused by sheared diff rivets get caught up in the diff gears - a good test is to try & push the car back n forward in neutral. if the diff is gone then i will still lock up after pushing it back or forth so far.

done exactly same thing in mine. your very lucky if it hasnt split the casing 90% of them do. it cost me Ã‚£250 to get my 16v box refurbed with the diff rivets replaced with the proper diff bolt kit.

get your original boxed refurbed is my suggestion

p.s. to anyone else with a 16v box that hasnt went yet. trust me it will. they all do!!! hence why loads of valvers have 8v boxes in them now.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: monzablue16v on 23 April 2007, 20:25: 8v box is better anyway :p
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Organisys on 23 April 2007, 21:38: should be able to get a box for approx Ã‚£500
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: DarnPB on 23 April 2007, 22:45: 500??????????? :sick:
Bought a box for an 8V for 120 euros!!! With a three month warranty. Off the shelf at the breakers.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Organisys on 24 April 2007, 19:15: I wasn't talking about a box from a breaker.

Quote from: davidhawkins_78 on 23 April 2007, 15:01
I'm expecting the worse to be honest!! If there's a hole in the casing it's not even worth trying to get it refurbed!

I'm loathed to lob a second hand box in as you never know what you're really getting and I want a proper fix. If you add the cost of a second hand box and the refurb together I bet you're not far off buying one in that state already with a warranty!?

What should I be considering with the worst in mind?

Dave.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Uruk Hai on 24 April 2007, 20:18: I cant remember where but I've seen recon box's advertised for about Ã‚£350, if you can be bothered to shop around and do a bit of research you will find the good deals !
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 25 April 2007, 09:17: Cheers for all the help guys . . . I think I'm going with a second hand box and found some good rebuild kits on eBay for Ã‚£90 so will have a bit of DIY action!

Has anyone got any 'words of wisdom' on things to check when buying a box that's off the car already? What about things like speed sensors etc - should I be getting the one with the box or could I use my old one?

These are probably daff questions but gearboxes are really my weak point!!

Dave.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Gambit on 25 April 2007, 09:28: unwise words - buy a 2nd hand box & lob it in - it could only last 3-6mths then you have all the pain over again. u have no way of checking the box of the car, you are simply going on the sellers word

wise words..... dont even attempt to rebuild a gearbox/diff yourself

wiser words - get your existing box rebuilt properly, the diff will not fail again - also you know the work thats been done on it - peace of mind ;)

no point doing things in halves

also, 8v boxes will also fail at some point. they usually last a bit longer as they are never stressed as much on an 8v engine compared to a 16v engine
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 25 April 2007, 09:32: I'd love to get mine rebuilt but it's smashed a hole in the casing!

I guess that leaves getting the second hand one rebuilt?! Who did you use to do your box Gambit? What did it cost too?!
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: rubjonny on 25 April 2007, 11:59: cost me Ã‚£50 for a 2nd hand 16v 2y box, came off a car that had been driven in London most of its life. Its the nicest gearbox I've ever had :cool:
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: Gambit on 25 April 2007, 13:13: ah didnt realise it had cracked the casing!!

i left my box in with a gearbox specialist ~ well it was a father & son outfit who'd being doing it for many moons ~ just gave them the box, charged me Ã‚£250 to sort diff out and replace worn syncro on 2nd

try n find a 2nd hand 16v box, and get the defo get the diff done ~ ring round a few local gearbox specialists and get prices.
Title: Re: Dead gearbox perhaps - Any ideas??
Post by: DarnPB on 26 April 2007, 05:02: Gearbox being sold on the parts for sale section for 200 quid. Recent rebuild at the cost of 500. Someone breaking an 8v.
Thought you might want to know. :wink: