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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Phil mcavity on 19 April 2007, 22:23

Title: Is this true?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 19 April 2007, 22:23

A friend of mine who owns an 8 valve golf mark 2 is adement that his car is faster off the mark to say around 40mph then myMark 5 Gti with Dsg or any Mark 5 Gti. he says that on the Mk 2 forums they say it is even with any major mods, i know his has been cammed and larger exhaust then standard, but surely it cant beat it ?? can it??? :undecided:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: monzablue16v on 19 April 2007, 22:30

Only one way to find out get yourself to the pod or York raceway and race a couple :D

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: jv on 19 April 2007, 22:32

no evidence at santa pod on sunday! hurdy was spanking it, 14.3 1/4 mile in an ed30 dsg

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: bmx on 20 April 2007, 07:33

Quote from: Phil mcavity on 19 April 2007, 22:23

A friend of mine who owns an 8 valve golf mark 2 is adement that his car is faster off the mark to say around 40mph then myMark 5 Gti with Dsg or any Mark 5 Gti. he says that on the Mk 2 forums they say it is even with any major mods, i know his has been cammed and larger exhaust then standard, but surely it cant beat it ?? can it??? :undecided:

even with a cam and exhaust the mk2 8 valve will only be about 125 130 bhp tops, so i doubt it very much indeed

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: The Doc on 20 April 2007, 07:58

I'll say it... NO FECKING WAY DUDE  :grin:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: 2007GTI on 20 April 2007, 09:33

I second that  :laugh:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Rhyso on 20 April 2007, 09:56

maybe if you left the handbrake on they may have a chance  :grin: :grin:

only way to settle the arguement is to find a private track and whip his ass!!  :laugh:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: mepal47 on 20 April 2007, 10:01

how much does a mk2 weigh ?

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Rhyso on 20 April 2007, 10:10

about 1100kg; maybe less  :undecided:

how much is a MKV?

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Hurdy on 20 April 2007, 10:13

Around 1400kg for DSG

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Hurdy on 20 April 2007, 10:23

calculated some times from VW driver/my records/graph :nerd:

0-30 = 1.75

0-40 = 2.6

0-50 = 4.8

0-60 = 5.9

0-70 = 7.7

0-80 = 9.5

0-90 = 12.3

0-100 = 14.86

With a MKII cammed and free flow exhaust you may be at 140bhp so 140/1.1ton = 128bhp/ton + manual gear change.
With a MKV ED30 DSG standard with 227bhp gives 227/1.4 = 162bhp/ton + gearchanges at 0.02sec

In my calculated opinion it is a new urban myth trying to be started by some MKII owners :wink:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: mepal47 on 20 April 2007, 10:54

quick search on google seems to indicate the mk2 weighs about 930kg, so i guess i could be possible as at lower speeds that massive difference in weight would really help, but once the mk5 gets into its stride the extra power would show and itll pull away

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Hurdy on 20 April 2007, 11:13

Hmm,

If that's so it may be a little closer

MKII = 140bhp/0.93ton = 150.5bhp/ton
MKV std manual GTI = 197bhp/1.328ton = 148bhp/ton + heavier inertia

So, not as much of an urban myth as I first thought :undecided:

Santa Pod here we come :wink:

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 22 April 2007, 10:29

perhaps illyan, do u know after owning one of each mk GTi's, is the mk 2 quicker off the mark???

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: bmx on 22 April 2007, 12:02

does the mk5 gti do 60mph in second gear?

Title: Re: Is this true?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 22 April 2007, 17:37

i think it changes on 60mph from 2nd to 3rd but having dsg , i havent noticed exactly