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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Spillane on 17 April 2007, 11:30
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I'm about to purchase a set of bbs rs's or rm's for my mk2. I want a nice wide set, maybe 8,5 for the front and 9 for the rear, or would this be too much? I want to go as low as possible, I will be purchasing a set of coilovers for her aswell. Is there a lot of work involved in rolling the arches, is it possible to do it myself? Has anybody on here got any mk2's incredibly low on 15's? Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Alan
Edit: my mistake, forgot I was in the parts for sale section, could admin please move to the correct section. Appologies!
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Thanks vaughn!
Any body? :undecided:
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Has anybody on here got any mk2's incredibly low on 15's? Any advice greatly appreciated.
Of course! :rolleyes:
9" wide on the rear will reqiuire some serious arch work. My 8.25" RM's required me to roll my arches as they were rubbing, but I was lucky as my neighbour has an arch rolling tool. If you haven't got the correct tool, don't attepmt it, otherwise you'll make a hash job of it. Some people cut the arch away with a grinder, but this can be dangerous if you cut in the wrong place as the outside wheel arch and inner suspension turret make the rear suspension, and cutting it in the wrong place weakens it.
After you have rolled/cut the arches you'll need to paint on some stone guard as the metal that has been exposed will corrode. Some people forget this and just whack the plastic arch back on and wonder why most of the arch has fallen off in a few years! You'll also need to trim the plastic arch back, as this may foul the tyre when the wider rims are put on.
What RS's were you thinking of buying as there are loads out there, but you need to get the right offset. The offset will change when you go for wider dishes, so bear that in mind. You also need to bear in mind the price difference between RM's & RS's as RS's seem to be the more expensive of the two. Also what kind of dish are you going to buy, alu or stainless as again the latter are the more pricey.
Lewy
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Has anybody on here got any mk2's incredibly low on 15's? Any advice greatly appreciated.
My 8.25" RM's required me to roll my arches as they were rubbing, but I was lucky as my neighbour has an arch rolling tool. If you haven't got the correct tool, don't attepmt it, otherwise you'll make a hash job of it.
Arch Rolling tool???
Where can I get / hire one?
I made do with a lump hammer and would like to do the job properly!!!!
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you can get a basic roller from frosts, here
http://www.frost.co.uk/item_Detail.asp?productID=9108&frostProductName=Wheel%20Arch%20Roller
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@Lewy: Excellent stuff! And there was me thinking I wasn't going to get an answer anywhere! So you have 8,25 on the rear, what have you got on the front, same? Also, how much is your car lowered by? Gorgeous car BTW!
They're alu dishes, and they're RM012, how much would you think I should pay for a set of these, lets say 8,5 and 8?
Thanks for the help!
Alan
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They were 8.25 all round and the car was lowered loads, but I've no idea how much it was lowered, I didn't measure it, just wound it down!!
I paid £300 for my RM's and then the powdercoating, dishes and new bolts came to £450. So all in all they cost me about £750-£800 and as I built them myself the labour was free, but someone who has built a set for you may charge about £100 for doing so.
Lewy
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Good stuff, thanks for the help! Think I'll go 8 front and 8,5 rear.
Will get some pics up of them when I get them!
Alan
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stay away from 9's mate :wink:
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stay away from 9's mate :wink:
You speak from experience? What did they do to yours? I'm gonna roll the arches for the 8,5. I won't be taking people in the back either! So hope that should help rubbing!
Alan
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I have coilovers. The offset was '0' on the 9's and wasnt too bad. I didnt mess with the arches but if i did it could have gone lower
The tyre size i had was 215/45. I should have gone 195.45
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Mmmm, helios blue! I've gone for the 8,5's now all round, they'll be posted out to me at the end of next week, so should have them the middle of the week after next... Looks like no one has a arch rolling tool in Cork, so I'm going to just buy the tool I think.
@Lewy: Did you use the tool yourself, or did you have your neighbour do it for you? Was it easy?
A friend of mine is a manager in a tyre shop, and he said he'll open up after hours and we can go mad tring all the tyre's to make sure I get exactly what I want, so thats working out perfect. He has a caddy himself and did the same for his wheels, so that works out well!
Alan
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@Lewy: Did you use the tool yourself, or did you have your neighbour do it for you? Was it easy?
A friend of mine is a manager in a tyre shop, and he said he'll open up after hours and we can go mad tring all the tyre's to make sure I get exactly what I want, so thats working out perfect. He has a caddy himself and did the same for his wheels, so that works out well!
Alan
My neighbour bought the tool in the states for his Lupo, but I've used it more than him! To roll the arches is a doddle, all you may need is some sikaflex (bodykit bond) to bond the arch back on to the wing, because where you roll the arch you'll roll the rivet holes back and have nothing to secure the plastic arch back on.
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I think the tool is about £250, but there are quite a few bodyshops around that have made their own. Try some local body shops to you, as £250 to use a few times is a bit of an outlay. I think there is a place near London that were charging £80 a corner, which I think is extortionate!!
As for tyres, if you want stretch go for 195/45/15, but if you don't want stretch 215/45/15's are probably the best fit. 50 profile tyres look too chunky for my liking, as I fitted 50's to my old wheels when I sold them and I didn't think the wheels looked as good.
Lewy
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I'm sure i've seen these tools online in the last 2 weeks for around 150 quid, but can i find where i saw them!? Can i fu.........
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Would you recommend I practiced rolling an arch on some piece of crap before I do my own car, or is it that easy I could just start straight away on my own car?
Looking for the stretch alright, will try a few 195/45's so and see which have the nicest thread pattern, now we're getting into detail :rolleyes:
I'd use the sikaflex to stick the plastic arches to the actual body panel?
I was thinking of buying the machine, seeing that no body shop in Cork has one I could easily rent it out to people for their own use, or do it for them, hopefully that way it would pay for itself then, just a thought. £80 a corner :shocked: did they call a rape crisis center afterwards, I'd feel sore after paying that much! Thanks for all the help lewy, I'd be up the creek without a clue without all this.
Also, are your arches standard or G60? I can never tell the difference :undecided:
@Mew: If you do find where those tools were let me know, might be able to save a few quid!
Cheers,
Alan
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Yeah the sikaflex is used to bond the arch onto the body, and the arches are std 16v jobbers, I'm not a fan of G60 ones.