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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: rcoundon on 16 April 2007, 12:59

Title: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 16 April 2007, 12:59
Hi guys,

I've just booked my Golf in for a service and they've told me they're also going to perform an engine management system upgrade as part of a recall.
When asked what this entailed I was told patronisingly that it was like installing new software on a computer! 
Oh, really?  Never!

Anyway, he wouldn't give me any other details of the upgrade and searches of the internet have proved unfruitful.  Does anyone here know what the recall is for?

Cheers,
Ross
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: 2007GTI on 16 April 2007, 17:44
I did a search for Golf recalls on another site and I dont think there is any.

how old is your car and does it have DSG?  could just be an update?
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: slane on 16 April 2007, 18:07
Mine was done last week, it was described as a engine manangement update.  It's got to go back in next week for a new steering rack which is making really bad creaking noises
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: maxamus on 16 April 2007, 21:58
Mine was done last week, it was described as a engine manangement update.  It's got to go back in next week for a new steering rack which is making really bad creaking noises

i know that the golf gti's had a recall last year which was due to the steering wheel grinding when you use to turn it.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 17 April 2007, 08:22
Talking of steering rack replacement, is it worth having done, as my new motors been groaning fron day one, and I'd have thought if there was a fix for it, mine would have had it done at the factory as it's an 07 car.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: wantmygti on 17 April 2007, 08:28
Talking of steering rack replacement, is it worth having done, as my new motors been groaning fron day one, and I'd have thought if there was a fix for it, mine would have had it done at the factory as it's an 07 car.

My Gti is 07 but no creaking at all. Funny things go on in that VW factory!
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: 2007GTI on 17 April 2007, 09:19
I'm pretty sure that there hasn't been an official VW recall on the streering racks, otherwise this forum would have known about it.

Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: slane on 17 April 2007, 21:35
Dealer described it as a comfort issue rather than a safety issue therefore no official recall.  I assume they only therefore deal with it if owners complain??
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Rhyso on 18 April 2007, 08:17
Dealer described it as a comfort issue rather than a safety issue therefore no official recall.  I assume they only therefore deal with it if owners complain??

sounds about right!! they never issued a full recall for the MKIV when people's window clips failed; would only fix it when it happened and even then they tried to deny any knowledge of doing it for free  :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: 2007GTI on 18 April 2007, 09:33
Dealer described it as a comfort issue rather than a safety issue therefore no official recall.  I assume they only therefore deal with it if owners complain??

sounds about right!! they never issued a full recall for the MKIV when people's window clips failed; would only fix it when it happened and even then they tried to deny any knowledge of doing it for free  :angry: :angry:

bastards!  both my windoew clips went on my MkIV, but 18 months apart.   :angry:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Rhyso on 18 April 2007, 09:51
Dealer described it as a comfort issue rather than a safety issue therefore no official recall.  I assume they only therefore deal with it if owners complain??

sounds about right!! they never issued a full recall for the MKIV when people's window clips failed; would only fix it when it happened and even then they tried to deny any knowledge of doing it for free  :angry: :angry:

bastards!  both my windoew clips went on my MkIV, but 18 months apart.   :angry:

i had my passenger and driver front windows go within 2 months.  I was surprised they did it for free as it was out of warranty but was told if your car is under 6 years old and done less than 90K they do them for free............the biggest problem people have had is finding a stealership who actually knows about this!! I've heard reports that when people have phoned VW UK they've tried to deny it!!  :shocked:  :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 24 April 2007, 12:50
Mine was done last week, it was described as a engine manangement update.  It's got to go back in next week for a new steering rack which is making really bad creaking noises

Yeah, they mentioned it was an engine management update but weren't specific.  Was wondering if anyone knew the detail of the change.  It's waiting to be picked up now so fingers crossed it'll have knocked a second of the 0-60  :wink:

Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Blowers on 24 April 2007, 16:10
Welll...I am finally going to get my stolen GTI fixed and  back tmw but I also hada  call from the Cochwork compnay to say that VW would want it in for some sort of engine management recall

Surley soemone knows more about this???? TT????
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 24 April 2007, 16:40
yes, if anyone knows about this re-call, plz tell us, mines the same age as yours blowers so would be handy to know some more details if u find out anymore ok  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 24 April 2007, 16:55
Righty,

I personally don't have any knowledge on this specific recall.  However, it is quite common for the manufacturers to occasionally issue new, updated ECU maps, for many things, such as engine management, auto gearboxes, climate controll, coolant modules, sat-navs, etc, etc.

What might be extremely helpful, is if all those, such as rcoundon, slane, Blowers, and Phil, along with anyone else who has experienced this, could post the following:

Model year: (determined by the 10th digit of your VIN - this doesn't mean the year of registration!)
Transmission type:
Engine prefix:
Engine number:

so we might get an indication of cut-off dates, if any.

Also, would this be worth x-linking to UKMkVs, or ClubGTI ???
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 24 April 2007, 17:15
Righty,

I personally don't have any knowledge on this specific recall.  However, it is quite common for the manufacturers to occasionally issue new, updated ECU maps, for many things, such as engine management, auto gearboxes, climate controll, coolant modules, sat-navs, etc, etc.

What might be extremely helpful, is if all those, such as rcoundon, slane, Blowers, and Phil, along with anyone else who has experienced this, could post the following:

Model year: (determined by the 10th digit of your VIN - this doesn't mean the year of registration!)
Transmission type:
Engine prefix:
Engine number:

so we might get an indication of cut-off dates, if any.

Also, would this be worth x-linking to UKMkVs, or ClubGTI ???

At the risk of sounding silly, what do you mean by engine prefix and number?  I'm new to this  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 24 April 2007, 19:05
At the risk of sounding silly, what do you mean by engine prefix and number?  I'm new to this  :smiley:

OK, if you look at my signature, and exclude the two-wheeled projectile  :wink:, you'll see, after each description of engine, is a three letter engine code.  This is the prefix.

So, on my GTI, the prefix is BWA.

The engine number is simply the "serial number", and consists of 6 numbers.

You should find the full engine prefix and serial number on a white bar-coded sticker, affixed to the black plastic timing belt cover, close to the washer fluid resevoir filler.  It will also be on your V5C.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 24 April 2007, 20:40
yes, if anyone knows about this re-call, plz tell us, mines the same age as yours blowers so would be handy to know some more details if u find out anymore ok  :smiley:

I have had the upgrade performed now.  Haven't driven the car yet but the invoice claims that it's a 24K6 Software update.  I'm off to Google it now.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 24 April 2007, 20:46
Looks like it's simply to prevent a fault being reported incorrectly.
http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=a4&Number=1125677&page=0&fpart=all

Although I did find a bunch of websites in German but even with the Google translator it's difficult to understand what they say.  They do mention performance and turbo pressures but the translation is too poor to gleen any meaning.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 25 April 2007, 09:13
Any updates on this?

Any discernable improvements in driveability, performance, economy, etc?
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 25 April 2007, 09:27
Any updates on this?

Any discernable improvements in driveability, performance, economy, etc?

Car feels a bit smoother and a little pacier but that may be to do with the fact it was serviced at the same time as the upgrade.  Nothing earth shattering though.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 25 April 2007, 09:49
Any pictures blowers would be appriated matie.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 25 April 2007, 10:58
Any updates on this?

Any discernable improvements in driveability, performance, economy, etc?

Car feels a bit smoother and a little pacier but that may be to do with the fact it was serviced at the same time as the upgrade.  Nothing earth shattering though.

Well, unless it was a 40k service, then all they basically do is change the oil and filter, and kick the tyres - and that won't make the car any faster at all - no matter how much they fleeced you for the privelidge!  :smug:

So, what is the model year, transmission, and engine codes?
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: rcoundon on 26 April 2007, 15:38
I only get custody of the car on a weekend as my wife drives it to work.  I'll check it out on Saturday.

Ross
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Rhyso on 26 April 2007, 15:43
I only get custody of the car on a weekend as my wife drives it to work.  I'll check it out on Saturday.

Ross

only at weekends?? GUTTED!!  :cry: ditch the wife i say!  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: maxamus on 26 April 2007, 16:09
I only get custody of the car on a weekend as my wife drives it to work.  I'll check it out on Saturday.

Ross


I only drive my GTI on weekends also. Got the Vectra SRi during the week. I feel posh changing cars like that  :wink:
Im glad i do because during the week, the vectra gets a battering of bird poop and people always catch the wing mirrors where i park. The GTI stays in garage and only comes out over the weekend which means it looks super slick and clean  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 28 April 2007, 09:43
I only get custody of the car on a weekend as my wife drives it to work.  I'll check it out on Saturday.

Ross

only at weekends?? GUTTED!!  :cry: ditch the wife i say!  :laugh: :laugh:

I too only get the GTI for the weekends, as SWMBO uses it for work!  Sadly, I just have to "put up" with my <sigh> RS4 <sigh> during the week.  :embarassed:  :cry:  :wink:  :evil:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 28 April 2007, 17:55
i bet the GTI feels like a escort 1.3 after driving the RS4 doesnt it T.T? :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 29 April 2007, 13:23
i bet the GTI feels like a escort 1.3 after driving the RS4 doesnt it T.T? :smiley:

Not really!

One thing that is very noticeable - the steering wheel on the GTI feels like it is from a bus - feels huge !!!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 08 May 2007, 18:57
Spoke to dealer reference this ecu remap, and it doesnt cover all GTi's, mine apparently, the chassis number doesnt fall in their band of Golf GTi's that require this remap.cars somewhere from late 05 reg to late 55 and early 06 plate cars.  mines was a 1k5 and models with 1k6 in the chassis number require a visit to the dealership, again not a safety re-call, just a running update for when the cars come in for service blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: TeddyKGB on 02 June 2007, 19:10
Another recall here:

http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=224279

"Volkswagen wants to check 4842 Golf and Golf Plus models because a heating element may not be earthed properly and could lead to a fire. Cars carrying the VIN numbers from WVWZZZ1KZ7W534410 to WVWZZZ1KZ7W582714 and WVWZZZ1KZ7W087591 to WVWZZZ1KZ7W159870 are potentially affected.
"

This was from February and I've just found it by chance :shocked: Looks like mines gonna have to get checked out
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: KentBladeboy on 02 June 2007, 21:14
Mine is a mid 2005 DSG engine code AXX. VIN 1K6  Was having big problems with the DSG flat spotting when trying to accelerate, after slowing for say a roundabout etc, you had to come back off the gas, then go back on to pick up revs, also when slowing and turning the box would drop into 1st and rev like hell before wanting to change up. Dealer said their demo had displayed the same issues, until the 24K6 recall was performed. 
Mine was done 2 weeks ago, stopped all the problems, DSG is smoother than ever, car picks up faster, and fuel econ has upped 5mpg........thought the car was good before, now even better.  Also top suspension mounts changed to stop constant knocking noises, that worked, but made the steering rack noises more noticeable, so its back for a new rack!!
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 June 2007, 13:37
Mine is a mid 2005 DSG engine code AXX. VIN 1K6

With that VIN, it is actually a 2006 model year car.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 05 June 2007, 13:40
My vin number is a 1k5  (2005 model yr)and enquired about if mine needed updating with the recall .Apparently mine doesnt need it, shame cus could of been good to gain a few more MPG from 28 town average.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 05 June 2007, 19:12
My vin number is a 1k5  (2005 model yr)and enquired about if mine needed updating with the recall .Apparently mine doesnt need it, shame cus could of been good to gain a few more MPG from 28 town average.

You could still take it in to the stealer, complaining of some immaginary missfire or rough running, and sort of mention you heard through the grapevine that VW had released an updated ECU map to cure such problems.  The stealer then has to update to the latest available map.  :wink:  :smug:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 05 June 2007, 19:15
Shes due for a service in the nxt 1000 miles or so, so i will drop the bombshell then
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: TASH1 on 05 June 2007, 20:16
Mine is getting done on Thursday, car has not been set up for variable servicing, so sorting both at the same time.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 06 June 2007, 09:39
Mine is getting done on Thursday, car has not been set up for variable servicing, so sorting both at the same time.

As per my response in your other thread - you really should not be on LongLife servicing.  :wink:  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: RedRobin on 06 June 2007, 10:24
My AAX 06 year model (UK registered 05) is currently running 0060 on the ECU but is Revo Stage1 remapped. She's being serviced on 14th (next week) and my dealer knows about my remap and I'll be switching her back to stock for the service. I have a good relationship with my dealer and they are going to inform me of everything they do. If my car needs an ECU update, I'll be visiting my Revo tuner afterwards rather than risk switching it back myself as there are known issues - Easily solved by Revo.

I'll report in due course. :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: RedRobin on 19 June 2007, 21:29
My AAX 06 year model (UK registered 05) is currently running 0060 on the ECU but is Revo Stage1 remapped. She's being serviced on 14th (next week) and my dealer knows about my remap and I'll be switching her back to stock for the service. I have a good relationship with my dealer and they are going to inform me of everything they do. If my car needs an ECU update, I'll be visiting my Revo tuner afterwards rather than risk switching it back myself as there are known issues - Easily solved by Revo.

I'll report in due course. :smiley:

....I reported but in another thread! :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: GTI CV7 on 19 June 2007, 22:44
Shes due for a service in the nxt 1000 miles or so, so i will drop the bombshell then

How do you know it's due for a service? Mine's coming upto 12 months old with nearly 7K on the clock...
Am I right in thinking something flases up on the dash when it's due? And what are we talking for a first service? £150?
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Phil mcavity on 19 June 2007, 22:57
just had my 1st major one today, total bill £576!, although, take this out  2 tyres fitted £147 each, brake fluid change cus shes now 2 yrs old.
1x punture repair, all those outside of normal 1st service, mines done 15000, so my estimate would be about £200 or so.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 24 August 2007, 23:01
How do you know it's due for a service? Mine's coming upto 12 months old with nearly 7K on the clock...
Am I right in thinking something flases up on the dash when it's due? And what are we talking for a first service? £150?

Turn the ignition on (but don't start the engine), put on seat belt (or wait for seat belt reminder to disappear), then press and HOLD the "00" trip reset button for at least 2 seconds.  The trip meter will initially zero, but providing you keep the button pressed, will then revert to the stored value, and the SID will show.
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: AndyC on 26 August 2007, 01:00
Hi Guys

I was notified of this update when my gti was booked in for the service, I also asked why the update, dealers explained to me about a miss -fire issue
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Nevets on 26 August 2007, 18:14
Quote
Turn the ignition on (but don't start the engine), put on seat belt (or wait for seat belt reminder to disappear), then press and HOLD the "00" trip reset button for at least 2 seconds.  The trip meter will initially zero, but providing you keep the button pressed, will then revert to the stored value, and the SID will show.

TT

Thanks for that info, just tried it.

Twelve months old, 8000 miles and mine is due in either 4000 miles or 77days (Longlife).

Is that good?

Nevets
Title: Re: Golf Recall
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 29 August 2007, 17:18
Quote
Turn the ignition on (but don't start the engine), put on seat belt (or wait for seat belt reminder to disappear), then press and HOLD the "00" trip reset button for at least 2 seconds.  The trip meter will initially zero, but providing you keep the button pressed, will then revert to the stored value, and the SID will show.

TT

Thanks for that info, just tried it.

Twelve months old, 8000 miles and mine is due in either 4000 miles or 77days (Longlife).

Is that good?

Nevets

Well, it is good news that you have got the info up, but bad news that you are on the LongLife regime!  :rolleyes:

I really should do a thread on the requirements of LongLife vs Time and Distance, and then get the Mods to sticky it!