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Title: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: domviol on 12 April 2007, 14:16

Hi all, good to be part of the forum.

Have been looking around at the other threads on best tyres for minimising road noise and improving the ol' ride comfort conundrum.... are there any new tyres on the market that are helping with this issue?

Regardless, can someone please advise the money-no-object (within reason) tyre to go for!

Cheers
D.

PS - anyone know of any GTI tuning experts in South Wales area?
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 14:19
I've yet to use a better tyre than a Michelin PS2, but that was on a BMW.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:52
I've yet to use a better tyre than a Michelin PS2,

x2

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 will quite literally run rings around other tyres!
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: domviol on 12 April 2007, 15:20

Wow, love a forum with quick response!!!  :grin:

Looking at the michelin site, there seem to be a variety of PS2's on there (standard, 2, XL's etc)....

Can you recommend a specific one for a 3dr DSG with the 18" ers' on it; if i'm shelling out best part of a grand, then want to get it right!

Also, any ideas on the Cardiff tuning?

D.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 15:37

Wow, love a forum with quick response!!!  :grin:

Looking at the michelin site, there seem to be a variety of PS2's on there (standard, 2, XL's etc)....

Can you recommend a specific one for a 3dr DSG with the 18" ers' on it; if i'm shelling out best part of a grand, then want to get it right!

Also, any ideas on the Cardiff tuning?

D.

I don't think you will need the XL's (extra load)
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Lewy on 12 April 2007, 15:44

Wow, love a forum with quick response!!!  :grin:

Looking at the michelin site, there seem to be a variety of PS2's on there (standard, 2, XL's etc)....

Can you recommend a specific one for a 3dr DSG with the 18" ers' on it; if i'm shelling out best part of a grand, then want to get it right!

Also, any ideas on the Cardiff tuning?

D.

Hello matey, welcome to the fold.

From personal experience, 40 profile tyres are too hard. My Mk4 Anniversary had Goodyear Eagle F1's on it, and they were quite hard compared to my 45's Continentals which give you confidence, but don't jar your back at the sight of a 10p in the road. The noise comparison between 40's and 45's was minimal, but that could be down to the fact that there is considerably more sound proofing on the BM, and it's a coupe not a hatch.

Lewy
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 22 April 2007, 19:55

Wow, love a forum with quick response!!!  :grin:

Looking at the michelin site, there seem to be a variety of PS2's on there (standard, 2, XL's etc)....

Can you recommend a specific one for a 3dr DSG with the 18" ers' on it; if i'm shelling out best part of a grand, then want to get it right!

Also, any ideas on the Cardiff tuning?

D.

I don't think you will need the XL's (extra load)

Erm, a GTI most definately does need the XL boots!  :wink:  :nerd:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 22 April 2007, 19:59
From personal experience, 40 profile tyres are too hard. My Mk4 Anniversary had Goodyear Eagle F1's on it, and they were quite hard compared to my 45's Continentals which give you confidence, but don't jar your back at the sight of a 10p in the road. The noise comparison between 40's and 45's was minimal, but that could be down to the fact that there is considerably more sound proofing on the BM, and it's a coupe not a hatch.

What a load of nonsense - using your logic then, the 35 profiles in my RS4 should have me addmitted to a spinal injuries unit!

40 series tyres on the GTI work just fine - which is why the manufacturer recommended them in the first place!
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 23 April 2007, 08:30

Wow, love a forum with quick response!!!  :grin:

Looking at the michelin site, there seem to be a variety of PS2's on there (standard, 2, XL's etc)....

Can you recommend a specific one for a 3dr DSG with the 18" ers' on it; if i'm shelling out best part of a grand, then want to get it right!

Also, any ideas on the Cardiff tuning?

D.

I don't think you will need the XL's (extra load)

Erm, a GTI most definately does need the XL boots!  :wink:  :nerd:

Sorry didn't read the threat properly, thought Domviol was on 17"s  :embarassed:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Lewy on 25 April 2007, 12:45
What a load of nonsense - using your logic then, the 35 profiles in my RS4 should have me addmitted to a spinal injuries unit!

40 series tyres on the GTI work just fine - which is why the manufacturer recommended them in the first place!

No, they shouldn't have you admitted to a spinal unit, as the suspension on the RS4 allows for it. The Eibach springs fitted as standard to my Mk4 Anniversary didn't cope too well - thats all!

Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 27 April 2007, 08:24
What a load of nonsense - using your logic then, the 35 profiles in my RS4 should have me addmitted to a spinal injuries unit!

40 series tyres on the GTI work just fine - which is why the manufacturer recommended them in the first place!

No, they shouldn't have you admitted to a spinal unit, as the suspension on the RS4 allows for it.

Exactly, and using the same logic, the Golf V GTI was designed for 45 and 40 profiles.  :nerd:

The Eibach springs fitted as standard to my Mk4 Anniversary didn't cope too well - thats all!

Ahh, but we are discussing MkVs here !!  :wink:  :smiley:

Incidentally, what make of boots were you using?  Because different makes/types of tyre, of identical sizes can have noticeable differences between them, and comfort is just one of those issues.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: ST225 on 27 April 2007, 15:29

Hi all, good to be part of the forum.

Have been looking around at the other threads on best tyres for minimising road noise and improving the ol' ride comfort conundrum.... are there any new tyres on the market that are helping with this issue?

Regardless, can someone please advise the money-no-object (within reason) tyre to go for!

Cheers
D.
onhkojn
PS - anyone know of any GTI tuning experts in South Wales area?
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 29 April 2007, 17:01

Have been looking around at the other threads on best tyres for minimising road noise and improving the ol' ride comfort conundrum.... are there any new tyres on the market that are helping with this issue?

Regardless, can someone please advise the money-no-object (within reason) tyre to go for!

Cheers
D.
onhkojn

Best tyres = Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 - period.

Nothing else can match it, and they arn't much more expensive than other so-called premium boots!  :nerd:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 01 May 2007, 14:16
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 15:33
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.

Hooray, another opinion of the uselessness of the SportCrapz - I think we ought to set up a website - www.DunlopSportMaxxAreShyte.com  :laugh:

What pressures are you running?

When I first got the GTI, the standard (upto 3 peeps) pressures were 35 all round - and I thought it had the straight line stability of a Chivers jelly.  After some experimenting, I now run 43psi front and 37 rear, and that seems to have sorted the stability, and they are still wearing evenly across the tread width.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: wantmygti on 01 May 2007, 15:41
43 psi????
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 01 May 2007, 16:04
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.

Hooray, another opinion of the uselessness of the SportCrapz - I think we ought to set up a website - www.DunlopSportMaxxAreShyte.com  :laugh:

What pressures are you running?

When I first got the GTI, the standard (upto 3 peeps) pressures were 35 all round - and I thought it had the straight line stability of a Chivers jelly.  After some experimenting, I now run 43psi front and 37 rear, and that seems to have sorted the stability, and they are still wearing evenly across the tread width.  :nerd:


I was (from new) running their recommended 40 psi, but uped it to 44, which has reduced understeer no end, but in a straight line she feel twitchy.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 17:02
43 psi????

Yup, but then I have been known to out-brake Scoobys and M3s - so I do put the fronts under considerable stress.

Remember, pressures on the sticker are only "recommeded" pressures - you are perfectly free to "tweak" them to suit your own drivng style, though I wouldn't recommend going lower than about 2-3psi, due to the potential for excessive heat build up.

Incidentally, higher pressures create a lower rolling resistance, and should actually improve your fuel consumption.  :nerd:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 01 May 2007, 17:03
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.

Hooray, another opinion of the uselessness of the SportCrapz - I think we ought to set up a website - www.DunlopSportMaxxAreShyte.com  :laugh:

What pressures are you running?

When I first got the GTI, the standard (upto 3 peeps) pressures were 35 all round - and I thought it had the straight line stability of a Chivers jelly.  After some experimenting, I now run 43psi front and 37 rear, and that seems to have sorted the stability, and they are still wearing evenly across the tread width.  :nerd:


I was (from new) running their recommended 40 psi, but uped it to 44, which has reduced understeer no end, but in a straight line she feel twitchy.

Is it the front or rear which is causing the instability?
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 01 May 2007, 17:09
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.

Hooray, another opinion of the uselessness of the SportCrapz - I think we ought to set up a website - www.DunlopSportMaxxAreShyte.com  :laugh:

What pressures are you running?

When I first got the GTI, the standard (upto 3 peeps) pressures were 35 all round - and I thought it had the straight line stability of a Chivers jelly.  After some experimenting, I now run 43psi front and 37 rear, and that seems to have sorted the stability, and they are still wearing evenly across the tread width.  :nerd:


I was (from new) running their recommended 40 psi, but uped it to 44, which has reduced understeer no end, but in a straight line she feel twitchy.

Is it the front or rear which is causing the instability?

I'd say front.  :undecided:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: domviol on 17 May 2007, 16:06
 :laugh:

Hi all, just reporting that have taken the plung on the full set and that the PS2's are indeed the mutts' - fantastic, thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers
D.
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 17 May 2007, 16:19
:laugh:

Hi all, just reporting that have taken the plung on the full set and that the PS2's are indeed the mutts' - fantastic, thanks for all the guidance.

Cheers
D.

Where did you get them in the end?
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 03 June 2007, 14:26
After a round trip of 800 miles this weekend, most of which was on our M roads, I can conclude the Dunlop Spaz Max tyre are sh!te for straight line stability. I can't wait to rub them out and buy some PS2's.

Hooray, another opinion of the uselessness of the SportCrapz - I think we ought to set up a website - www.DunlopSportMaxxAreShyte.com  :laugh:

What pressures are you running?

When I first got the GTI, the standard (upto 3 peeps) pressures were 35 all round - and I thought it had the straight line stability of a Chivers jelly.  After some experimenting, I now run 43psi front and 37 rear, and that seems to have sorted the stability, and they are still wearing evenly across the tread width.  :nerd:


I was (from new) running their recommended 40 psi, but uped it to 44, which has reduced understeer no end, but in a straight line she feel twitchy.

Is it the front or rear which is causing the instability?

I say front.  :undecided:

OK - how are they now, after another month's running.

Don't forget, if you regularly run tyres at a certain pressure, then the tread blocks "bed-in" to that particular pressure.  If you then up (or decrease) the pressure suddenly, but keep the same load, the tyre can take about 500 miles for the tread blocks to bed in again.

Being as the R32 lump is quite a bit heavier than the GTI motor, perhaps try upping the fronts to 46 or even 48 psi, and see how you get on.

Incidentally, I'm now running my RS4 at 50psi all round, albeit with full loads.  This is primarily because the Pirelli P-Zero Rossos are even more shyte than the Dunlop SportMaxxes - they are fooking lethal - no grip in the rain, aquaplaning even during modest rain, and even during modest cornering - just break away instantly, without any warning or progressive sliding - and the worst thing (actually, it may be a blessing in disguise), I've worn the ba$tard$ out in just 4,500 miles  :shocked:
Title: Re: Best Tyres for (less) Road Noise / (better) Ride Comfort - anything new?
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 03 June 2007, 16:39
I've been running them at 45 up front and 42 rear's, on the way home from work on Friday (the long way round) It felt as if the car was a bit twitchier than usual, so I checked the pressure on Saturday morning, and the front were back down to 40/41, so I put a bit more in and things seam ok again now.

The rides a bit harder than I'd really like, but not unduly bad  :smiley: