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Title: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32: Had my 07 GTI for a week and love it , however I sold the idea to my wife that it would be better spending more money on a VW than say a civic as the ride comfort and quality would be better, the qaulity is in no doubt, however the ride comfort is crap!
I have 18" monza`s all about 30 psi, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard), the car is really unsettling on the motorways actually jiggling you around in the seat over minor undulations. I thought the ride in my 53 civic type R was so bad anything would be better, however.....
not what I was expecting (or my wife :smiley:) from a VW, I know its a GTI ect , ect but all reviews rated ride quality as good for a hot hatch.

any suggestions?
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Ollieb7 on 10 April 2007, 08:56: MMM - Sorry i find the car too soft for me! :shocked:
If you find it too hard i'm afraid it's get used or change to a non GTI model :sad:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 09:04: too soft! I feel like a right old gimmer ( only 29!) :cry:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 10 April 2007, 09:05: Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
Had my 07 GTI for a week and love it , however I sold the idea to my wife that it would be better spending more money on a VW than say a civic as the ride comfort and quality would be better, the qaulity is in no doubt, however the ride comfort is crap!
I have 18" monza`s all about 30 psi, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard), the car is really unsettling on the motorways actually jiggling you around in the seat over minor undulations. I thought the ride in my 53 civic type R was so bad anything would be better, however.....
not what I was expecting (or my wife :smiley:) from a VW, I know its a GTI ect , ect but all reviews rated ride quality as good for a hot hatch.

any suggestions?

Just a thought, but have you made sure the transport blocks have been removed ? only mine were left in on my GTi.
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Ollieb7 on 10 April 2007, 09:17: Yep too soft - infact mine even looks like its still got the transport blocks in :sad: Is it me or do ed30's look as if they have a higher stance than a normal GTI?
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 09:21: ? transport blocks ? stupid question but where are they?
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Nathan on 10 April 2007, 09:58: I agree, from coming from a lotus exige and before that an RS Focus i find the ride to be very good and not harsh at all! in fact i wish it was harder and a little lower!
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 10 April 2007, 10:04: Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 09:21
? transport blocks ? stupid question but where are they?

They are rubber spacers that VW fit between the coils of the road springs, see here

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/creepycoupe/blocks.jpg)
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: 2007GTI on 10 April 2007, 10:11: I found my 07 quiet a hard ride when I first got it, but then I had been driving a mk4 1.6 for 4 years.

On particular parts of the M25 I find it really hard.

I only have 17" wheels and I'm told 18" is a bit harder. :nerd:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Ollieb7 on 10 April 2007, 10:20: Quote from: Nathan on 10 April 2007, 09:58
I agree, from coming from a lotus exige and before that an RS Focus i find the ride to be very good and not harsh at all! in fact i wish it was harder and a little lower!

Well i've made my mind up - H&R -25mm springs or eibach -15mm fitted and correct alignment adjustment seems to be the solution! Unfortunately the latter i think i'll have to pay full biffta prices at the main dealer as there is no trustworthy specialists up where i live. Prob. keep the warranty secure though!

2007GTI - Hard on the M25!!!!! :undecided: :undecided:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Shrodinger's Cat on 10 April 2007, 13:47: I have my tyres at 2.4 bar (that's what it says in the manual), which is 34-35 psi. Although I don't see how increasing the tyre pressure would make the ride any more forgiving.
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 14:41: I will probably get used to it, the rest of the car is so good it more than makes up for it, maybe i should have stuck with the 17" alloys but the 18" look the part.
I suppose i concentrate on the ride when im stuck trundling along the M1 at 50mph as there is nob all else to do!, once i get on a windy road I can honestly say the ride is forgotten ! :grin:
Plus we have a 1.6 nissan note to ferry people around so we can use that for the ride sensitive types!
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Ollieb7 on 10 April 2007, 14:47: Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 14:41
Plus we have a 1.6 nissan note to ferry people around so we can use that for the ride sensitive types!

Not the image conscious types then? :wink:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Phil mcavity on 10 April 2007, 15:06: go and trade in your GTI and buy a 1.6 FSI For your wife, then her bum wont get bumped as much (If shes not into that sorta thing) :wink:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 15:30: only had the car a week! best leave it a while before i swap again, nothing wrong with the Nissan, apart from the badge, lifeless engines , awful leather seats and stupid indicator bing! :grin:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Hurdy on 10 April 2007, 19:15: I find the ride a little too soft as well.

The only issue I have is the rebound when driving slow over ruttled surfaces or bl00dy cattle grids :angry:

Oh no another Cattle grid

BrrrBrrrBrrrBrrrBrrrBrrrBrrrBrrrBrrr
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Mr Lees on 11 April 2007, 14:15: Right, I actually pumped my tyres upto the reccomended 2.4 Bar last night and moved the drivers seat up 2 notches, i usually sit with it on the lowest setting, and the ride is much better? maybe my ass was too near the floor.
still firm, but not as jiggly... the ride, not my ass. :grin:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: phope on 11 April 2007, 17:31: Quote from: Ollieb7 on 10 April 2007, 10:20
Quote from: Nathan on 10 April 2007, 09:58
I agree, from coming from a lotus exige and before that an RS Focus i find the ride to be very good and not harsh at all! in fact i wish it was harder and a little lower!

Well i've made my mind up - H&R -25mm springs or eibach -15mm fitted and correct alignment adjustment seems to be the solution! Unfortunately the latter i think i'll have to pay full biffta prices at the main dealer as there is no trustworthy specialists up where i live. Prob. keep the warranty secure though!

2007GTI - Hard on the M25!!!!! :undecided: :undecided:

Hamish...if you want a local specialist, take a trip to Fife and go see Jim at Star Performance, Kirkcaldy..less than 2 hours down the road

Top notch guy, knows his VWs and Audis inside out and has full laser alignment kit for suspension work...did a great job fitting Koni SSK kit to my old Beetle 1.8t

I was speaking to him at the weekend, and I know he'd love to have an Edition 30 for a few days to examine the ECU mapping.. I'm quite tempted to have it remapped there as well :smiley:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Ollieb7 on 12 April 2007, 08:26: Quote from: phope on 11 April 2007, 17:31
Hamish...if you want a local specialist, take a trip to Fife and go see Jim at Star Performance, Kirkcaldy..less than 2 hours down the road

Top notch guy, knows his VWs and Audis inside out and has full laser alignment kit for suspension work...did a great job fitting Koni SSK kit to my old Beetle 1.8t

I was speaking to him at the weekend, and I know he'd love to have an Edition 30 for a few days to examine the ECU mapping.. I'm quite tempted to have it remapped there as well :smiley:

Good call Phope - no doubt about it the car has potential to make more of an animal - seem wrong not too. I'll wait on the management front until there's a few tried and tested out there - suspension - the sooner the better!
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54: Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04: Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:23: Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.

Probably down to all that extra ~~lard~~ weight the R32 has to carry arround! :wink: :grin:

Actually, the Dunlops are a reasonably quiet tyre - it's just that they are shyte in the handling, comfort, traction and braking departments!
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 14:29: Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:23
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.

Probably down to all that extra ~~lard~~ weight the R32 has to carry arround! :wink: :grin:

Actually, the Dunlops are a reasonably quiet tyre - it's just that they are shyte in the handling, comfort, traction and braking departments!

You need 4wd :smiley: :wink:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:54: Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 14:29
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:23
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.

Probably down to all that extra ~~lard~~ weight the R32 has to carry arround! :wink: :grin:

Actually, the Dunlops are a reasonably quiet tyre - it's just that they are shyte in the handling, comfort, traction and braking departments!

You need 4wd :smiley: :wink:

And that will help with traction!

It certainly wont help with handling, comfort and braking! :nerd:
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 15:38: Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:54
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 14:29
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:23
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.

Probably down to all that extra ~~lard~~ weight the R32 has to carry arround! :wink: :grin:

Actually, the Dunlops are a reasonably quiet tyre - it's just that they are shyte in the handling, comfort, traction and braking departments!

You need 4wd :smiley: :wink:

And that will help with traction!

It certainly wont help with handling, comfort and braking! :nerd:

That's a good point, I wonder in the Haldex helps with engine braking to the rear, on over run.
Title: Re: Ride comfort,...or lack of !!
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 21:53: Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 15:38
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:54
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 14:29
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 14:23
Quote from: Creepy Coupe on 12 April 2007, 12:04
Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 April 2007, 11:54
Quote from: Mr Lees on 10 April 2007, 08:32
, on dunlop sport Maxx tyres ( standard),

any suggestions?

Change your tyres for either Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339, or Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538 - both will give you much better low speed comfort, and both are a considerably better tyre than the Sh!tMa . . . sorry, SportMaxx!

Strange as I'm finding the Dunlops a farly quiet tyre, what do you ~~mincers~~ Blokes :wink: find to be the problem.

Probably down to all that extra ~~lard~~ weight the R32 has to carry arround! :wink: :grin:

Actually, the Dunlops are a reasonably quiet tyre - it's just that they are shyte in the handling, comfort, traction and braking departments!

You need 4wd :smiley: :wink:

And that will help with traction!

It certainly wont help with handling, comfort and braking! :nerd:

That's a good point, I wonder in the Haldex helps with engine braking to the rear, on over run.

Nope, because when all four wheels are rotataing at the same speed, the Haldex disengages drive to the rear axle!