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Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Golf mk4 TDI => Topic started by: ExEvo on 24 March 2007, 23:02

Title: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 24 March 2007, 23:02
Hi
I have a Golf tdi 130 6 speed 52 reg i want an uprated filter should i get an uprated panel or an induction most say leave the induction kit and get a panel filter is this right ?
What is the best panel filter to go for because some are oiled and this is bad for the afm isn't it?
 I have been told the green one is best because it is dry.

Any help or recommendations would be great.

Cheers
Tim.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Bluefox on 26 March 2007, 23:29
Don't waste your money on an induction kit, only benifit on a petrol car is the induction roar. On a diesel all you get is a slight increase in turbo whistle.
I've got a K&N panel in my '53 Skoda 130 PD, she's still going strong 10k on.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 27 March 2007, 21:10
Cheers for the reply.
Do you know if the K&N is an oily filter or is it dry.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Bluefox on 27 March 2007, 21:11
Cheers for the reply.
Do you know if the K&N is an oily filter or is it dry.

It's oiled.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 27 March 2007, 22:15
I thought that the oiled ones were bad for the maf.

Cheers
Tim.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: arnoldlog1 on 28 March 2007, 07:06
i've also heard that u should avoid the oily ones and go for a cotton green as they are not oiled. but i'm not sure :undecided:

i'll stick with the standard 4 now  :wink:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Bluefox on 28 March 2007, 21:37
One of my mates at work has heard that as well, he's using a Green cotton one. As I mentioned, I've had mine on for about 10k with no problems. Well, MAF related problems anyway...
Incidentially the engine's an AWX.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 29 March 2007, 10:54
Just wondering what's an awx.

Cheers
Tim.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 29 March 2007, 12:41
Got a feeling that AWX denotes the engine code.

I think Bluefox has a Skoda Fabia VRS so it's pretty much the same engine as the 130 ASZ found in the Golf (as far as I'm aware!)

Incidentally I've got a 130 and just use the standard filter; seems fine with that; both rolling roads I've been on show her to be putting out 144 and 140 (obviously take the results with a pinch of salt!)
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 29 March 2007, 13:54
Got a feeling that AWX denotes the engine code.

I think Bluefox has a Skoda Fabia VRS so it's pretty much the same engine as the 130 ASZ found in the Golf (as far as I'm aware!)

Incidentally I've got a 130 and just use the standard filter; seems fine with that; both rolling roads I've been on show her to be putting out 144 and 140 (obviously take the results with a pinch of salt!)


Is your car standard or have you got any mods?

Cheers
Tim.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 29 March 2007, 13:56
Standard  :smiley:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 29 March 2007, 14:15
Just see that under your photo  :rolleyes:.

Cheers
Tim.
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: arnoldlog1 on 29 March 2007, 18:02
i've heard that alot, about them putting 140 out rather than 130. i've seen it in magazines etc. weird  :undecided:

but cool  :cool:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: ExEvo on 29 March 2007, 19:52
i've heard that alot, about them putting 140 out rather than 130. i've seen it in magazines etc. weird  :undecided:

but cool  :cool:


Defo

So i have a TDI 140 then  :smiley:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 29 March 2007, 20:47
think one member on here had a 150PD and put it on the rollers; put out near 180bhp or something along those lines!

Always handy having an extra 10bhp for nowt  :wink:  whether or not the rolling roads are accurate are always open to speculation but if they are out (which is most likely) at least it gives a higher number so there's more chance of the car putting out what the manufacturer claims!
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Bluefox on 01 April 2007, 09:09
Got a feeling that AWX denotes the engine code.

I think Bluefox has a Skoda Fabia VRS so it's pretty much the same engine as the 130 ASZ found in the Golf (as far as I'm aware!)

Incidentally I've got a 130 and just use the standard filter; seems fine with that; both rolling roads I've been on show her to be putting out 144 and 140 (obviously take the results with a pinch of salt!)

Yeah, AWX is the engine code - but I've actually got a Skoda Superb 130 TDI, my mum's got a Fabia VRS. :laugh:
Incicentially, my engine's mounted north-south and mum's is east-west, so I'll assume the Fabia's engine is very similar to the Golf's. Did the ASZ have a six-speed box?
Ryhso, thought you'd had yours remapped recently?
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 01 April 2007, 14:32
Got a feeling that AWX denotes the engine code.

I think Bluefox has a Skoda Fabia VRS so it's pretty much the same engine as the 130 ASZ found in the Golf (as far as I'm aware!)

Incidentally I've got a 130 and just use the standard filter; seems fine with that; both rolling roads I've been on show her to be putting out 144 and 140 (obviously take the results with a pinch of salt!)

Yeah, AWX is the engine code - but I've actually got a Skoda Superb 130 TDI, my mum's got a Fabia VRS. :laugh:
Incicentially, my engine's mounted north-south and mum's is east-west, so I'll assume the Fabia's engine is very similar to the Golf's. Did the ASZ have a six-speed box?
Ryhso, thought you'd had yours remapped recently?

yeah ASZ has a 6 speed box  :smiley:

not had it remapped; building up my no-claims at the moment as insurance is a bit of a killer  :sad:  also want to sort the handling out first before i try putting any more power through the front wheels  :laugh:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 04 June 2007, 22:29
i'm going to resurrect this thread as my car's due for a server in a few weeks at which point the air filter is going to be replaced, so naturally I'm thinking get a 'performance' panel filter  :cool:

so what's the best to go for on the TDI's the oiled K&N or the dry green cotton?

price wise they are both about the same ~ £50

Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 05 June 2007, 08:05
think the dry cotton one is your best bet.  Oiled filters tend to screw up the MAF in next to no time.

Haven't you learnt anything!!??  :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes: :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 05 June 2007, 09:46
Haven't you learnt anything!!??  :lipsrsealed: :rolleyes: :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

yeah changing pretty much anything can fook the MAF up  :laugh:

i'll have a look round the web and find out where the best place to get a green cotton one from is then, unless anyone has other recommendations for a dry filter
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 05 June 2007, 09:50
yeah changing pretty much anything can fook the MAF up  :laugh:


keep it standard then  :wink: does mine no harm  :smug: :tongue:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 11:26
keep it standard then  :wink: does mine no harm  :smug: :tongue:

lol playing it safe then!

well the way i see it i'm going to be paying someone to put a new standard one in, so may as well spend a bit extra and get a 'performance' filter to help her breath better  :cool:

just ordered a green one from potn, just hope it don't mess up the MAF  :smiley:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2007, 11:39
standard filter is only £12 and you can fit it in less than 5 minutes :afro:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 11:54
standard filter is only £12 and you can fit it in less than 5 minutes :afro:

yeah but i'm not planning on services mine myself.

the green filter is £43 with a million mile life span so, the same as 4 replacement standard filters, and it should improve throttle response and according to the website improve economy, i'll let you know how i get on!
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2007, 12:06
a million miles!!!??? crikey!!


I look forward to yet another my 'MAF's gone west' thread  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

will be interesting to hear your results though; may even consider one if it goes ok  :wink:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 12:15
I look forward to yet another my 'MAF's gone west' thread  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

thanks for the vote of confidence  :laugh:

if it does then the standard one will be going back in!

i think million mile warranty's are standard on uprated filters.

well i hope to have it delivered tomorrow, so i'll try and get some recordings and pics  :cool:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2007, 12:18
I look forward to yet another my 'MAF's gone west' thread  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

thanks for the vote of confidence  :laugh:


anytime!!  :tongue: :laugh: :laugh:

http://www.potn.co.uk/c5206_3077_7421_7462_p1516599.htm

is that the one you're getting?? £7.50 for delivery!!!???  :shocked: got more money than sense!!  :grin:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 12:35

http://www.potn.co.uk/c5206_3077_7421_7462_p1516599.htm

is that the one you're getting?? £7.50 for delivery!!!???  :shocked: got more money than sense!!  :grin:

sh1t just realised that wasn't the same place i was looking at yesterday  :angry:

i meant to get

http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?id=32305 (http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pages/products/product_info.mhtml?id=32305)

as that the company doing next day delivery, looks like i'll be phoning potn and cancelling  :laugh:

Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2007, 12:38
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed: :lipsrsealed:


 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 12:49
yeah i know what a w4nker

just cancelled the original order and placed it in the right place  :laugh:  although you can get it cheaper, most places only do 3-5 day delivery so don't mind paying the extra £1
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Rhyso on 06 June 2007, 12:50
yeah i know what a w4nker


 :laugh:

cool; let us know how you get on then mate  :wink:
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: arnoldlog1 on 06 June 2007, 17:21
million mile life span? but it does need cleanin!! i bet it costs £10 for a garage to clean it!!   :grin: :grin:

i'm with rhyso keep it original!!
Title: Re: Panel filter info/help
Post by: Ridg on 06 June 2007, 18:48
million mile life span? but it does need cleanin!! i bet it costs £10 for a garage to clean it!!   :grin: :grin:

i'm with rhyso keep it original!!

yeah i think you're meant to clean them every couple of years, which i'll be able to do myself  :smiley:

well fingers crossed, i'll be getting better throttle response and economy from the green filter  :drool: