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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Aaron-B on 07 March 2007, 11:09
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Well i woke up early in the morning today to find out that my 93 golf had been broken into. They smashed the rear small windows and got in from there. I dont have power locking so it was easy for them. They ripped out my cd player and stole HALF of my gear knob lol. Idiots. The car was parked right outside of my house. i didnt hear a thing. This is my first car aswell, only bought it over a week ago and have yet to get insurance.(not driving it yet). I had my bike stolen just a week ago aswell *sigh*. i am now looking into some car security. If someone could recommend me some alarms or whatever else, it would be greatly appreciated. i'd give anything to catch the bastards...
Aaron
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There's two real methods of security you need to be looking at; You need to be looking at systems that will dissuade the thief and then a secondary method that will stop them should they still attempt it.
Firstly, get yourself a good alarm system (I personally like clifford, but everyone here will have different recommendations). Make sure flashing LEDs are visible as well as stickers stating an alarm system is fitted. Also, get a disclock type thing. Whilst you might think this has no effect on a stereo thief, it eill - it sends a clear message that you are prpared for a break in. So, he moves to the next car which displays no signs of security. You need visual deterrants, make the casual thief think twice about breaking in. An alarm with a perimeter sensor will sound a short alarm if it detects someone hanging around the car for a prolonged period of time. You might want to consider this....
Secondly, you need to consider a security window film which will physically stop someone from breaking your windows. Also, armoured security plates to stop someone from gaining entry into the car via the door locks. You also need to make sure if you intend to re-purchase a stereo that it has a theft removable front plate etc. and actually take it out with you. Leave nothing visible worth nicking - even loose change in the coin try. Scally's will attempt to break your window for 50p if they can.
Finally, consider moving.
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Not much else to add to that! Good one Simon!
Clifford are considered the best but also expensive. For a slightly less expensive try Cobra.
Also you should have your car insured even if you are not driving it. It doesnt matter if its on the Public Highway it is illegal not to have it insured.
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following on from alarms.
ive got a sigma system on my mk3, goes off when the glass is broken (the vibration from the impact sets it off) goes off when its armed and the bonnet or the boot are opened, has an excellent immoblisor, and makes a truely shocking noise... isnt too loud, but the frequency actually hurts!
good times. :cool:
my mum has a clifford on her mx5, even has proxomity sensors which if movement is detected too close to the car a certain number of times in 30 seconds then the alarm will sound.... :evil:
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any alarm that sounds if the door or bonnet etc is opened is good. Any security is better than no security and I guess you might not have money to splash (cos it wasnt insured...), but until you do, get any device you can get cos they all make a noise as the end result so something wi flashy LED's and a loud sounder (or the horn itself) is enough to send the toerags running for fear of being seen.
I imagine its quite a shock if yer creepin around at 4am trying to nick a stereo and the bloody horn starts blarin full blast in a quiet street! Your not going to stick around are ya? lol
Stupid but effective cheapass alarm:
The cheapest effective alarm if your broke is to hook a horn up to the interior light and fit it in the engine bay, and wire it via a keyswitch fitted say on the boot near the number plate, you activate when parked up and remember to switch off before you open the door. Simple but effective and cheap.
Or if yer flush, buy a clifford :cool:
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Yea. seems like i am getting a Clifford. I see quite a few around on Ebay for just over 100, not bad. What model should i get if i want it to go off when a window is smashed?? or is that standard?
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Got a Cat 1 alarm fitted with dual proximity sensor (so it beeps whenever anyone gets near the car) and 2 immobilisers that also has remote central locking. Break the window, open the bonnet, boot or door and the alarm goes off. All fitted £250.
Ditto on the consider moving though!
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one quick and inexpensive solution would be to pop down to halfrauds or local motor store and pick up a flashing led wire for a couple of quiD and wire it straight to your battery, at least with led it looks like you have an alarm and act as a deterrent.
For those that have cliffords I have heard they can be problematic and not reliable, but having just moved myself and my current alarm being one Ive never heard of are looking for an upgrade with proximity sensors - is there any other recommended makes other than clifford with this feature?
cheers ANDY
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The cliffords are overly priced in my opinion, as long as it's a thatcham approved CAT 1 you can't go wrong. The more complicated the alarm, the more unreliable they tend to be. The relays tend to go.
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Does this seem any good? I just need a basic alarm really...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLIFFORD-ARROW-5-NEW-CAR-ALARM_W0QQitemZ280091278408QQihZ018QQcategoryZ75329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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It doesn't say it's CAT1 approved, and at that price i doubt it is. The proxy sensors etc at the bottom you have to pay seperately for, just a dual proxy sensor on its own is 50 squid
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So this would be better?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-TOAD-Ai606-CAR-ALARM-IMMOBILISER-Thatcham-CAT-1_W0QQitemZ270095672229QQihZ017QQcategoryZ75329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Seems OK but check the fitting prices, for the alarm to do anything for your insurance they will need a copy of the alarms fitting certificate that is emboss stamped
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So say I got it fitted at Halfrauds, woukd I get a certificate? Sorry bout all the questions. I just need an alarm ASAP
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dunno on that one mate, you'll have to give them a ring
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looks pretty damn good for the price mate. Go for it.
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Yeah it does look good reading through it again, has the button for the bonnet so the alarm will go off if the bonnet is opened, also it will wire up to the internal boot light, so if someone opens the boot, the light will switch on which will set the alarm off. Check with your insurance as to whether they will take the alarm into consideration when sorting your premium. Paying that price i would seriously consider sending him a message asking how much to add a proxy sensor, they're awesome. Far better deterrent than a sticker or LED because the alarm will beep several times whenever anyone gets withing 1-2 foot of the car depending on how the sensitivity is set.
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Are the proxy sensors also known as "microwave" sensors? I did a search on ebay for proxy and proximity and didn't come up with much.
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Yep the toad ones they call microwave sensors. Mine's in the roof lining so it doesn't have to stick out anywhere on the car, it just has a small screw that sets the sensitivity
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Ok cool. So if I bought that toad alarm and a microwave sensor, I could get it all set up just fine? Or would I need something else?
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Just email the alarm guy to make sure it's capable of accepting a microwave/proximity sensor as an add on (i'm almost certain it will) and you're on your way mate
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Ok great. Thanks a lot for your help.
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I have the Toad 606 on both my 1.4 & gti and its a great little unit, got boththem off ebay abotu £100 each, from Precision Alarms i think, based in Canvey Island, Essex. Got good service from them, easy enough to install, had the guidence of a ex-alarm fitter, but its pretty much plug & play. just make sure you have your haynes about :D
Keep a eye on the sensertivity, can be a bit over sensertive when windy so makesure you install the brain with the screw for adjusting the sensertivity faceing out, found cable tieing it to the heater air supply thingy was the best bet.
Good luck :D